[NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,

I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 
2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually 
this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved 
with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the 
latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can typeset 
my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and Mac OS X 
10.6.2).

Has anyone else noticed this problem? 

Thanks in advance: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,

 I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 
 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually 
 this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved 
 with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
 I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the 
 latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can 
 typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and 
 Mac OS X 10.6.2).

 Has anyone else noticed this problem?


\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext


No problem here with
# context --version
MTXrun | main context file:
/opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.24 10:13

r...@john:/opt/luatex/test-mkiv# luatex --credits
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009110210


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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 15:31, Otared Kavian wrote:

 Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,

 I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 
 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually 
 this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved 
 with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).

May I ask you to fetch the new version of first-setup.sh, run it and retry?

You are on Snow Leopard. Yes, it's expected to break (sorry) because
so many people have been complaining that they want 64-bit binaries
(and I could have written a visible warning to the mailing list which
I forgot to do). I hoped for the fact that the number of SL users is
small enough, so that they would be willing to rerun first-setup and
fetch the 64-bit binaries.

I decided to patch to detect SL, then changed my mind, and then
changed my mind again after Hans figured out that he's not able to
boot with 64-bit kernel and requested to support 64-bit platforms
automatically.

If you would boot into 64-bit mode (try to boot by holding down keys 4
and 6), it would not work at all without replacing the version of
first-setup.sh that you currently use.

Sure, we should provide fat binaries, but ... two years ago I was
still working on 56k connection during weekends (if anyone wants usb
modem, let me know :). The distribution arose from my desire for not
having to fetch Hans' one-line patches in 4MB zips several times per
day. Fat binaries would mean some 60 MB of extra space (and I consider
that a waste of resources).

 I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the 
 latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can 
 typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and 
 Mac OS X 10.6.2).

What changes do you have in mind?

 Has anyone else noticed this problem?

Yes, me, sorry.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread Otared Kavian

On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:36, luigi scarso wrote:

 […]
 No problem here with
 # context --version
 MTXrun | main context file:
 /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
 MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.24 10:13
 
 r...@john:/opt/luatex/test-mkiv# luatex --credits
 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009110210

Thanks Luigi for your attention.

Typesetting the following file

 basic-test.tex

\starttext

This file has been typeset 
on \currentdate{} 
at \currenttime, 
with 
\doifmodeelse{mkiv}
{mkiv, 
LuaTeX version \the\luatexversion,
LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
(LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp),
using the command: \par
\type{context basic-test.tex}\par}
{mkii, 
using the command: \par
\type{texexec basic-test.tex}\par}
ConTeXt version \contextversion.

\stoptex
 end basic-test.tex

before updating to 2009-11-24 release, I get a correct behaviour and the file 
is typeset with a log having these lines:

……Setting //context-minimal/tex as TEXROOT instead.
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009103007
 \write18 enabled.
……

After updating to today's release, I get an error message
………  /usr/texbin/context: Permission denied
………

However upon changing the setuptex files of the latest release and replacing 
them with a previous version the typesetting works fine again with a log file 
having these lines:
………This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.45.0-2009111904
 \write18 enabled.
………

Looks like the new setuptex files behave differently, or has something changed 
with first-setup.sh?

Thanks again: OK

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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Mojca,

Thanks for your message and attention: I replied to Luigi's message and the saw 
your answer…
I am going to do what you suggest and the let you know.

I'll write you again in a few minutes…

Best regards: OK

On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 15:31, Otared Kavian wrote:
 
 Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,
 
 I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 
 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually 
 this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was 
 solved with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
 
 May I ask you to fetch the new version of first-setup.sh, run it and retry?
 
 You are on Snow Leopard. Yes, it's expected to break (sorry) because
 so many people have been complaining that they want 64-bit binaries
 (and I could have written a visible warning to the mailing list which
 I forgot to do). I hoped for the fact that the number of SL users is
 small enough, so that they would be willing to rerun first-setup and
 fetch the 64-bit binaries.
 
 I decided to patch to detect SL, then changed my mind, and then
 changed my mind again after Hans figured out that he's not able to
 boot with 64-bit kernel and requested to support 64-bit platforms
 automatically.
 
 If you would boot into 64-bit mode (try to boot by holding down keys 4
 and 6), it would not work at all without replacing the version of
 first-setup.sh that you currently use.
 
 Sure, we should provide fat binaries, but ... two years ago I was
 still working on 56k connection during weekends (if anyone wants usb
 modem, let me know :). The distribution arose from my desire for not
 having to fetch Hans' one-line patches in 4MB zips several times per
 day. Fat binaries would mean some 60 MB of extra space (and I consider
 that a waste of resources).
 
 I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the 
 latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can 
 typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro 
 and Mac OS X 10.6.2).
 
 What changes do you have in mind?
 
 Has anyone else noticed this problem?
 
 Yes, me, sorry.
 
 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 16:08, Otared Kavian wrote:

 Looks like the new setuptex files behave differently, or has something 
 changed with first-setup.sh?

Both.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:36, luigi scarso wrote:

 […]
 No problem here with
 # context --version
 MTXrun | main context file:
 /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
 MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.24 10:13

 r...@john:/opt/luatex/test-mkiv# luatex --credits
 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009110210

 Thanks Luigi for your attention.

 Typesetting the following file

  basic-test.tex

 \starttext

 This file has been typeset
 on \currentdate{}
 at \currenttime,
 with
 \doifmodeelse{mkiv}
        {mkiv,
        LuaTeX version \the\luatexversion,
        LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
        (LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp),
        using the command: \par
        \type{context basic-test.tex}\par}
        {mkii,
        using the command: \par
        \type{texexec basic-test.tex}\par}
        ConTeXt version \contextversion.

 \stoptex
  end basic-test.tex
\stoptext
  end basic-test.tex

it works ok here

This file has been typeset on November 24, 2009 at 16:17, with mkiv,
LuaTeX version 44, LuaTeX revision 0, (LuaTeX date stamp 2009110210),
using the command: context basic-test.tex ConTeXt version 2009.11.24
10:13.





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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

2009-11-24 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear Mojca,

I did what you suggest.
Now, after updating first-setup.sh, the behaviour is different but neither mkii 
nor mkiv work… In my log file I obtain only
………MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

and no typesetting.

However, as I said in my previous explanations, replacing the setuptex files 
(there are 4 of them…), I can use the latest release of 2009-11-24 10:13.
So to my understanding everything boils down to an issue with the new setuptex 
files (I don't change anything regarding 32 or 64 bit mode).

Many thanks again… 
Best regards: OK


On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 15:31, Otared Kavian wrote:
 
 Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,
 
 I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 
 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually 
 this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was 
 solved with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
 
 May I ask you to fetch the new version of first-setup.sh, run it and retry?
 
 You are on Snow Leopard. Yes, it's expected to break (sorry) because
 so many people have been complaining that they want 64-bit binaries
 (and I could have written a visible warning to the mailing list which
 I forgot to do). I hoped for the fact that the number of SL users is
 small enough, so that they would be willing to rerun first-setup and
 fetch the 64-bit binaries.
 
 I decided to patch to detect SL, then changed my mind, and then
 changed my mind again after Hans figured out that he's not able to
 boot with 64-bit kernel and requested to support 64-bit platforms
 automatically.
 
 If you would boot into 64-bit mode (try to boot by holding down keys 4
 and 6), it would not work at all without replacing the version of
 first-setup.sh that you currently use.
 
 Sure, we should provide fat binaries, but ... two years ago I was
 still working on 56k connection during weekends (if anyone wants usb
 modem, let me know :). The distribution arose from my desire for not
 having to fetch Hans' one-line patches in 4MB zips several times per
 day. Fat binaries would mean some 60 MB of extra space (and I consider
 that a waste of resources).
 
 I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the 
 latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can 
 typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro 
 and Mac OS X 10.6.2).
 
 What changes do you have in mind?
 
 Has anyone else noticed this problem?
 
 Yes, me, sorry.
 
 Mojca
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