Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 18:07, Diego Depaoli wrote: 2009/5/29 Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr: If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it on an http-server? Why not do it directly on minimals.contextgarden.net? There are zips on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/, but one still needs to fetch everything more or less manually (when there are changes, one needs to fetch the whole zip). Or what exactly would you like to see in that zip? One thing that might be worth trying is to try to set a tunnel with putty. From what I read I guess that it should work, but I have no experience and no windows machine. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
2009/5/30 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 18:07, Diego Depaoli wrote: 2009/5/29 Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr: If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it on an http-server? Why not do it directly on minimals.contextgarden.net? There are zips on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/, but one still needs to fetch everything more or less manually (when there are changes, one needs to fetch the whole zip). Or what exactly would you like to see in that zip? Up to date binaries. W32tex's zipped files are an example. Regards -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:23, richard.steph...@converteam.com wrote: I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is not an option? The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm and unzipped the contents to overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way? I've got myself in a terrible mess now! I downloaded cont-tmf.zip and unzipped the contents, then tried to follow Hans' instructions, i.e.: mktexlsr luatools --generate luatools --selfupdate mtxrun --selfupdate texexec --make (for mkii) context --make (for mkiv) Unfortunately, none of these commands runs without errors! SO, I decided to reinstall from scratch. That's where my problems really started! I searched around the Wiki and found lots of pages on installation, but none of them seem quite right. I looked at http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/minstall.pdf but it looks old and does not seem to relate to the stuff I've downloaded. From various places, I think I need to do the following, but some details are missing: 1. Install Ruby 2. Install Perl 3. Download cont-tmf.zip and unzip contents to installdir 4. Set environment variables: OSFONTDIR = C:\WINDOWS\Fonts TEXMF = installdir\scripts\context\stubs\mswin TEXMFCACHE = C:\TEMP TEXMFCNF = installdir\web2c TEXMFOS = ?? others 5. From command window, run installation scripts: mktexlsr luatools --generate luatools --selfupdate mtxrun --selfupdate texexec --make (for mkii) context --make (for mkiv) 6. To generate new pdf run: context --pdf myfile.tex 7. Anything else I've missed Thanks to all, Richard Converteam UK Ltd. Registration Number: 5571739 and Converteam Ltd. Registration Number: 2416188 Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Boughton Road, Rugby, Warwickshire, CV21 1BU. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
richard.steph...@converteam.com wrote: 7. Anything else I've missed in the pragma website there are snapshots of the minimals (just zipped garden minimals); you can take one of those a starting point and unzip the latest (beta) versions of context in texmf-context further proceed as described on the wiki - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
On Thu, 28 May 2009, richard.steph...@converteam.com wrote: I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is not an option? Perhaps this could be an easy option: 1.) install on PC with direct internet connection (no firewall problems) 2.) put the context directory on a usb-stick 3.) copy from usb-stick to PC behind firewall If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it on an http-server? Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
Lutz Haseloff lutz.hasel...@googlemail.com wrote on 29/05/2009 11:04:55: Hi Richard, 1. Install Ruby right 2. Install Perl I think, Perl is not needed anymore. Download http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/minimals-snapshot-mswin.zip I unzip it in c:\, you get c:\context\texmf-context and some more directories 3. Download cont-tmf.zip and unzip contents to installdir make c:\context\texmf-context empty and unzip cont-tmf.zip into it 4. Set environment variables: OSFONTDIR = C:\WINDOWS\Fonts TEXMF = installdir\scripts\context\stubs\mswin TEXMFCACHE = C:\TEMP TEXMFCNF = installdir\web2c TEXMFOS = ?? others no, go to c:\context an run setuptex.bat I have an icon on my desktop with: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /K cd c:\context .\setuptex.bat 5. From command window, run installation scripts: mktexlsr luatools --generate luatools --selfupdate mtxrun --selfupdate texexec --make (for mkii) context --make (for mkiv) open a terminal window c: enter cd context enter setuptex enter the above commands should now work without errors 6. To generate new pdf run: context --pdf myfile.tex You have to run setuptex.bat in c:\context before you can compile texfiles I automated this for the terminal and for the Scite Editor. 7. Anything else I've missed That should do it For updating luatex, download ftp://akagi.ms.u-tokyo.ac. jp/pub/TeX/win32/luatex-dev-w32.tar.bz2 and unzip the files in bin into c:\context\texmf-mswin\bin. After that run context --make You're welcome Greetings Lutz Thank-you very much for the above. Still a few problems though! I have installed it to C:\tools\context. Everything goes well until 'mktexlsr' which returns: Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-project/ls-R to write. Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-fonts/ls-R to write. Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-extra/ls-R to write. because the folders do not exist. So I've created empty folders just in case and no more warnings! Then all goes well until 'context --pdf myfile.tex' which returns: luatex.exe: c:/tools/context/texmf-cache/tuatex-cache/b7bcb6722e1fe509b85ff004c33e8274/formats/cont-en.fmt: No such file or directory MtxRun | fatal error, code 1 and 'texexec --pdf myfile.tex' returns: c:\tools\context\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:8603: attempt to concatenate a nil value Any ideas? Richard Converteam UK Ltd. Registration Number: 5571739 and Converteam Ltd. Registration Number: 2416188 Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Boughton Road, Rugby, Warwickshire, CV21 1BU. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
richard.steph...@converteam.com schrieb: Lutz Haseloff lutz.hasel...@googlemail.com wrote on 29/05/2009 11:04:55: Hi Richard, 1. Install Ruby right 2. Install Perl I think, Perl is not needed anymore. Download http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/minimals-snapshot-mswin.zip I unzip it in c:\, you get c:\context\texmf-context and some more directories 3. Download cont-tmf.zip and unzip contents to installdir make c:\context\texmf-context empty and unzip cont-tmf.zip into it 4. Set environment variables: OSFONTDIR = C:\WINDOWS\Fonts TEXMF = installdir\scripts\context\stubs\mswin TEXMFCACHE = C:\TEMP TEXMFCNF = installdir\web2c TEXMFOS = ?? others no, go to c:\context an run setuptex.bat I have an icon on my desktop with: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /K cd c:\context .\setuptex.bat 5. From command window, run installation scripts: mktexlsr luatools --generate luatools --selfupdate mtxrun --selfupdate texexec --make (for mkii) context --make (for mkiv) open a terminal window c: enter cd context enter setuptex enter the above commands should now work without errors 6. To generate new pdf run: context --pdf myfile.tex You have to run setuptex.bat in c:\context before you can compile texfiles I automated this for the terminal and for the Scite Editor. 7. Anything else I've missed That should do it For updating luatex, download ftp://akagi.ms.u-tokyo.ac. jp/pub/TeX/win32/luatex-dev-w32.tar.bz2 and unzip the files in bin into c:\context\texmf-mswin\bin. After that run context --make You're welcome Greetings Lutz Thank-you very much for the above. Still a few problems though! I have installed it to C:\tools\context. Everything goes well until 'mktexlsr' which returns: Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-project/ls-R to write. Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-fonts/ls-R to write. Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-extra/ls-R to write. because the folders do not exist. So I've created empty folders just in case and no more warnings! Then all goes well until 'context --pdf myfile.tex' which returns: luatex.exe: c:/tools/context/texmf-cache/tuatex-cache/b7bcb6722e1fe509b85ff004c33e8274/formats/cont-en.fmt: tuatex-cache ? copypaste error or a typo in your environment variable? btw: the option --pdf is no longer needed, as pdf is the default output format Best wishes, Peter No such file or directory MtxRun | fatal error, code 1 and 'texexec --pdf myfile.tex' returns: c:\tools\context\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:8603: attempt to concatenate a nil value Any ideas? Richard Converteam UK Ltd. Registration Number: 5571739 and Converteam Ltd. Registration Number: 2416188 Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Boughton Road, Rugby, Warwickshire, CV21 1BU. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
2009/5/29 Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr: If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it on an http-server? Why not do it directly on minimals.contextgarden.net? [OT - for binaries maintainer] Even sources should be packaged in a zip file. After recent Mojca's changes I rsynced for a while Cheers -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] updates without rsync
Gentlemen and Ladies, I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is not an option? The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm and unzipped the contents to overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way? Thanks. Richard Converteam UK Ltd. Registration Number: 5571739 and Converteam Ltd. Registration Number: 2416188 Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Boughton Road, Rugby, Warwickshire, CV21 1BU. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
richard.steph...@converteam.com wrote: Gentlemen and Ladies, I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is not an option? The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm and unzipped the contents to overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way? should work ok - unzip in relevant tree - mktexlsr - luatools --generate - luatools --selfupdate - mtxrun --selfupdate - texexec --make (for mkii) - context --make (for mkiv) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:23, richard.steph...@converteam.com wrote: Gentlemen and Ladies, I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is not an option? The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm and unzipped the contents to overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way? If you use mkiv, you might need to update binaries as well. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:23, richard.steph...@converteam.com wrote: Gentlemen and Ladies, I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is not an option? The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm and unzipped the contents to overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way? I have no time to explore myself for the next few months, but if anyone comes up with a solution, I can fix it (if anything should be fixed on server, but maybe fixing locally could be enough). There are some online tutorials about how to circumvent firewall problems using ssh tunelling. http://forums.exabytes.com/linux-control-panel-cpanel/102-using-rsync-through-firewall.html http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/firewall.html On the other hand, the installer could detect a problem of firewall or network connection problem and return some nicer error report instead of trying to run rsync even after the first attempt has faild. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] updates without rsync
On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:36:38 Mojca Miklavec wrote: There are some online tutorials about how to circumvent firewall problems using ssh tunelling. http://forums.exabytes.com/linux-control-panel-cpanel/102-using-rsync-throu gh-firewall.html http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/firewall.html I regularly use ssh tunnels to circumvent firewall problems. Basically, it requires a few simple and readily available tools (ssh, nc). For example (under linux), it can be as simple as setting up the file $HOME/.ssh/config Host contextgarden.net ProxyCommand nohup ssh firewall_host_name nc -w1 %h %p Then, rsync -e ssh -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh . just works... (This scheme requires nc [netcat] be available on the firewall) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Updates with older dates
Sorry, just found a strange thing. A month old distribution of TeXLive contains bib-mod.doc file dated November 4, 2006. And current cont-tmf.zip contains the same file but dated... September 7, 2006. Strange, isn't it? Best, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Updates with older dates
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Sorry, just found a strange thing. A month old distribution of TeXLive contains bib-mod.doc file dated November 4, 2006. And current cont-tmf.zip contains the same file but dated... September 7, 2006. I'll check. The differences can't be big. It looks like I forgot to update the one inside the context distribution. Best, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] updates
Hi, On Die 15.11.2005 14:32, Hans Hagen wrote: I also want to move on to the ruby variants of texexec and texutil, so i want the latest versions to be available (for testers). is the perl-version still avilable? Because the most platform have perl in the default installation ;-) Greetings Aleks ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] updates
Alexander Lazic wrote: Hi, On Die 15.11.2005 14:32, Hans Hagen wrote: I also want to move on to the ruby variants of texexec and texutil, so i want the latest versions to be available (for testers). is the perl-version still avilable? Because the most platform have perl in the default installation ;-) i'll keep it as fallback for a while Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] updates
Hi, On Mit 16.11.2005 11:39, Hans Hagen wrote: i'll keep it as fallback for a while Thanx. Alex ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] updates
Hi, The next couple of weeks there will probably more 'updates' than normal; this is due to the fact that i'm adding long due features and such. I also want to move on to the ruby variants of texexec and texutil, so i want the latest versions to be available (for testers). Currently I'm uploading a version that - fixes a problem introduced when implementing the \currentvalue hack (side effect was that the non english interfaces behaved weird) - a long standing wish of g.b. dealing with indentation (i tried to provide a more or less robust solution); the following works ok here (gb/taco: \noindent does not work in such cases, one really needs to make a handler the last action taken after a stop...; btw, suppressing a next indendation is best done with \noindentation which is what the auto thing used deep down) \setupindenting[small,yes] \setupitemize [indentnext=auto] \setuptyping [indentnext=auto] \setupformulas[indentnext=auto] \starttext \input tufte \startitemize \item ccc \stopitemize \input tufte \startitemize \item ccc \stopitemize \input tufte \startitemize \item ccc \stopitemize \page \input tufte \starttyping ccc \stoptyping \input tufte \starttyping ccc \stoptyping \input tufte \starttyping ccc \stoptyping \page \input tufte \startformula a = b \stopformula \input tufte \startformula a = b \stopformula \input tufte \startformula a = b \stopformula \stoptext Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] updates
Hi, Later this week i will post an update. Among the things to keep an eye on are: - if you use the new (web2c) beta binaries be aware of the suffixes of formats now all being 'fmt'; conforming to the new tds structure, this should go in sync with a so called $engine subpath under webc, but this wil lnot be supported by tetex (i'm not sure about texlive); this can be rather annoying when you use pdfetex as well as aleph; in that case you may want to try texexec --make --alone --all --engine (i always use --all to get all patterns in the format) - with new binaries you should also be aware of changes in enc and map paths; texfont is already adapted to that and textools can be used to adapt your trees - however, the main reason for writing this mail is that i recently found out that there has been a change in the us hyphenation files; on your system this may be obscured by the fact that sometimes there is an alias file somewhere in the tree mapping old names on new names [fyi: i finally found out that this alias file is also the reason why sometimes fonts like dingbats get messed up]. I have adapted context to look for new and old files; unfortunately important changes like this are not announced and just happen (i wonder how many us-english users are aware of this change); i have been bitten by this (unannounced changes in filenames, and i cross my fingers that the content is the same) too often now; when it happens again, i'll start distributing patterns as in the first versions of context (lang-*.pat/hyp files) - 8 bit in/output: it looks like tex live will not be 8 bit (the last version was 8 bit except chars32, the previous version was 8 bit) and the next version will be yet another mix; since i want context to be 8 in/8 out the formats will be built with the natural.tcx vector (in a few years, when i can be sure that suers are in sync, i will use the -8bit switch). I will not bore you with teh arguments that are used to let tex not be 8 but by default, but it has to do with unix and terminal output and locales and such. (interestingly this is no real problem for context since the control characters (32) are mostly used for file io, verbatim, pdf, metapost, javascript, xml etc). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
