[NTG-context] utf-based lang-* files?

2005-09-22 Thread Christopher Creutzig 
Salvete,

 while I am aware that my Japanese is ages away from creating anything
releasable, I thought about creating a lang-jap.tex file for my personal
use (and maybe for having it corrected by someone actually speaking the
language).  Now, checking lang-chi.tex, I find it is encoded in a way I
don't really want to copy.  I'd much rather write the whole file in
“proper” utf-8.  Is it possible to simply enclose the file in a
\startregime[utf]...\stopregime pair or do I risk havoc by doing this?

 (Should I start with this project, I'll have more questions, such as:
How do I make a unicode character such as 。active, for good line breaks?)


Christopher
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Re: [NTG-context] utf-based lang-* files?

2005-09-22 Thread Christopher Creutzig 
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Is it possible to simply enclose the file in a
\startregime[utf]...\stopregime pair or do I risk havoc by doing this?
 
 
 Well, if you're using a regime, it still (usually) depends on symbolic
 character names being defined under the hood. Also, such an approach

 Sure.  But editing the file is oh so much easier when I can just type
\def\japChapterNumber#1{第#1章}
than if I have to look up the unicode numbers first and type
\def\japChapterNumber{\uchar{123}{44}#1\uchar{122}{224}}

 (explicitly calling \startregime[utf]) doesn't make XeTeX as happy as it
 could be (XeTeX is happiest if you just pass through Unicode characters.

 That implies that ConTeXt should switch off all conversions when
running in XeTeX and seeing \startregime[utf], right?  (I certainly want
 to use the whole thing in XeTeX, if I ever do start it.  I would prefer
not to make the code depend on that.  I could live with som \if...
switches at the beginning and end, sure.)


Christopher
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Re: [NTG-context] utf-based lang-* files?

2005-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen 

Christopher Creutzig wrote:


Adam Lindsay wrote:
 


Is it possible to simply enclose the file in a
\startregime[utf]...\stopregime pair or do I risk havoc by doing this?
 


Well, if you're using a regime, it still (usually) depends on symbolic
character names being defined under the hood. Also, such an approach
   



Sure.  But editing the file is oh so much easier when I can just type
\def\japChapterNumber#1{第#1章}
than if I have to look up the unicode numbers first and type
\def\japChapterNumber{\uchar{123}{44}#1\uchar{122}{224}}

 


(explicitly calling \startregime[utf]) doesn't make XeTeX as happy as it
could be (XeTeX is happiest if you just pass through Unicode characters.

If xetex handles utf-8 by just looking at catcodes letter, you don't 
need a regime; you just have to make sure that when the file is loaded 
the chars 128-255 have the right catcode


\dostepwiserecurse{128}{255}{1}{\catcode\recurselevel=11\relax}

Hans

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