Re: [NTG-context] times new roman, arial and courier fonts

2010-01-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 24.01.10 15:32, schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:

\definetypeface[winfonts][rm][specserif][Times New Roman][default]


What a gift for me ant other ConTeXt users!



What's is even better is the underlying system.


With XeTeX and LuaTeX you can load font either by the filename 
(file:...) or the fontname (name:...) but since the end of last year 
there is a new system for MkIV. I call the system the spec-interface and 
it let you load a font by its familyname and value for the weight and style.



The syntax for the spec-interface is:

  spec:familyname-fontweight-fontstyle-fontwidth

A example how you can use this load 'Times New Roman Regular' is

  spec:timesnewroman-normal-normal

for 'Times New Roman Italic' the definition is

  spec:timesnewroman-normal-italic

and for 'Times New Roman Bold Italic' it is

  spec:timesnewroman-bold-italic


As you can see in the definiton above where I left the 'fontwidth' out 
the value for fontweight, fontstyle and fontwidth are optional.



Another example for the spec-interface was shown by Hans a while ago: 
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20091120.123832.8f76eed2.en.html


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] times new roman, arial and courier fonts

2010-01-24 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

\definetypeface[winfonts][rm][specserif][Times New Roman][default]

\definetypeface[winfonts][ss][specsans] [Arial] [default]

\definetypeface[winfonts][tt][specsmono][Courier] [default]

\definetypeface[winfonts][mm][math] [times] [default]

\starttext

Hello

{\ss Hello}

{\tt Hello}

\stoptext



Wow! This is simply fantastic!!!

What a gift for me ant other ConTeXt users!



BR,
Vyatcheslav
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Re: [NTG-context] times new roman, arial and courier fonts

2010-01-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.01.10 20:22, schrieb Marius:

The solution to my question is:

\usetypescriptfile[type-win]
\starttypescript [winfonts]
  \definetypeface [winfonts] [rm] [serif] [times]   [default]
  \definetypeface [winfonts] [ss] [sans]  [arial]   [default]
  \definetypeface [winfonts] [tt] [mono]  [courier] [default]
  \definetypeface [winfonts] [mm] [math]  [times]   [default]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[winfonts]
\setupbodyfont[winfonts,10pt]


There is another way to do this in MkIV.

\definetypeface[winfonts][rm][specserif][Times New Roman][default]
\definetypeface[winfonts][ss][specsans] [Arial]  [default]
\definetypeface[winfonts][tt][specsmono][Courier][default]
\definetypeface[winfonts][mm][math] [times]  [default]

\setupbodyfont[winfonts]

The third argument is one of the three keywords specserif, specsans or 
specmono and the fourth is the familyname of the font. You could use 
spaces and uppercase letters in the familyname because ConTeXt takes 
care of this and removes them itself in the definition, this system is 
build on top of the new spec-Interface for fonts.


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Re: [NTG-context] times new roman, arial and courier fonts

2010-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.01.10 15:46, schrieb Marius:

Hello all,

how to set times new roman as \rm, arial as \ss and courier as \tt?


When you need only the Times/Arial/Courier look you can use:

\usetypescript[postscript]
\setupbodyfont[postscript]

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Re: [NTG-context] times new roman, arial and courier fonts

2010-01-23 Thread Marius
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am 23.01.10 15:46, schrieb Marius:

  Hello all,

 how to set times new roman as \rm, arial as \ss and courier as \tt?


 When you need only the Times/Arial/Courier look you can use:

 \usetypescript[postscript]
 \setupbodyfont[postscript]


Thank you for the hint.
The solution to my question is:

\usetypescriptfile[type-win]
\starttypescript [winfonts]
 \definetypeface [winfonts] [rm] [serif] [times]   [default]
 \definetypeface [winfonts] [ss] [sans]  [arial]   [default]
 \definetypeface [winfonts] [tt] [mono]  [courier] [default]
 \definetypeface [winfonts] [mm] [math]  [times]   [default]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[winfonts]
\setupbodyfont[winfonts,10pt]
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is
 this the way to access it?

Hello Alan,

Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

This works:
% possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
\usetypescript[times][ec]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times
New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
copyrighted).

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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Bowen
Hi, Mojca!

Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin  
Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult  
the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is  
apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

Again, thanks for your help.

Alan

On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file ,  
 hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is
 this the way to access it?

 Hello Alan,

 Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

 This works:
 % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
 \usetypescript[times][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

 It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times
 New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
 copyrighted).

 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Yue Wang
Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).
Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.
Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

 Again, thanks for your help.

 Alan

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file ,
 hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is
 this the way to access it?

 Hello Alan,

 Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

 This works:
 % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
 \usetypescript[times][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

 It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times
 New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
 copyrighted).

 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

It definitely makes sense to ask him, but most people (including me)
do not notice the difference at all.

Even if you need exactly Times New Roman, it should not be too
difficult to change, but you can ask the publisher where to get the
math glyphs in case he insists :) :) :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Bowen
That is good to know, I will use it in talking with the publisher.  
Many thanks.

Alan

On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;28,08 , Yue Wang wrote:

 Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).
 Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.
 Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

 Again, thanks for your help.

 Alan

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file ,
 hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals  
 and is
 this the way to access it?

 Hello Alan,

 Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

 This works:
 % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
 \usetypescript[times][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

 It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not  
 Times
 New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
 copyrighted).

 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Peter

On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Yue Wang wrote:

 Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).

Which stems from URW Nimbus, a clone of Linotype version of Times Roman.

 Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.

Actually, TNR is the Monotype version of the typeface, licensed by  
Microsoft, but with widths adjusted to match Times Roman, which was a  
Linotype typeface. To make matters more fun, Apple licensed its  
version from Linotype. And for cosmic revenge, Monotype bought  
Linotype, so there's just one company now.

 Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.

The only design differences are minimal. The serifs of C and S, for  
example, are more vertical in the Monotype version, and the italic z  
is more calligraphic in the Linotype version, but in large part, the  
two versions are identical. Personally, for book text, I think you  
ought to use Times Ten, which is designed for that. Both Times Roman  
and Times New Roman were originally designed as newspapers typefaces  
to be set on very short measures and are therefore too narrow for book  
use.

Steve
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Bowen
Fantastic, Wolfgang! An image is worth 1000 words.

Many thanks for the visual support.

Alan
On Dec 1, 2008, at 12;38,41 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 times.pdf
 Am 01.12.2008 um 16:13 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

 It definitely makes sense to ask him, but most people (including me)
 do not notice the difference at all.

 You could try to find the differences in my example.

 Even if you need exactly Times New Roman, it should not be too
 difficult to change, but you can ask the publisher where to get the
 math glyphs in case he insists :) :) :)

 ???

 Wolfgang

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Fwd: RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-21 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
I have not installed the 3-16 mswincontext.zip yet but could you check 
this Hans (resend in case you missed it;-)?

Idris
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Subject: RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:41:19 -0700
= Original Message From Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do 
that?
--engine
could you give me an example of its use in building a format?
or in texexec.ini (rme):
set UseEnginePath to  true
Ok, now I have
\texmf-mswin\web2c\aleph
\texmf-mswin\web2c\pdfetex
but aleph is looking in the wrong directory:
This is Aleph, Version 3.141592-1.15-2.1-0.0-rc4 (Web2c 7.5.3)
 \write18 enabled.
Copyright (c) 2002--2004 the Aleph task force
---! c:\CONTEXT\texmf-mswin/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt was written by 
pdfetex
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)

Is there a configuration option I'm missing?
Best
Idris
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Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-20 Thread h h extern
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:31:44 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as 
the big windows zip (will take a few hours)

Any word on that? I saw something dated 3-16-05; I'm assuming that's not 
it (since your email is dated a day later?)
i let my machine generate the tree while i was watching a movie the day before 
 i uploaded the lot -)

Hans
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RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-20 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From h h extern [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:31:44 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as
 the big windows zip (will take a few hours)


 Any word on that? I saw something dated 3-16-05; I'm assuming that's not
 it (since your email is dated a day later?)

i let my machine generate the tree while i was watching a movie the day 
before
  i uploaded the lot -)

So does that meant the 3-16 upload is the one or no? Also, how do I install it 
(could find no instructions...) it looks like a unix tree...

Idris


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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
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Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-18 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:31:44 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as 
the big windows zip (will take a few hours)
Any word on that? I saw something dated 3-16-05; I'm assuming that's not 
it (since your email is dated a day later?)

Best
Idris
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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi,
add/patch this in your texmf.cnf file:
OSFONTDIR =
T1FONTS   = 
.;$TEXMF/fonts/{type1,pfb}//;$TEXMF/fonts/misc/hbf//;$OSFONTDIR//
AFMFONTS  = .;$TEXMF/fonts/afm//;$OSFONTDIR//
TTFONTS   = .;$TEXMF/fonts/{truetype,ttf}//;$OSFONTDIR//
OPENTYPEFONTS = .;$TEXMF/fonts/opentype//;$OSFONTDIR//
and in your batch file say:
set osfontdir=c:/windows/fonts
that way tex knows where to look for the pfb files
(what are the corresponding values for linux/osx ?)
Hans

= Original Message From Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
I hope you can translate from unix-like pseudo-commands into DOS:
make a new, clean temp directory.
copy times*.ttf into that directory.

from that directory, run:

texfont --ma --in --ve=microsoft --co=timesnewroman --show
What happens?

Ok, much progress:-)
1. Your command worked as is, no need to translate:-))
2. TeXFont did its magic, with no *apparent* errors (but see below) : 
a. ttf|afm|tfm|vf's are copied to/generated within 
[truetype|afm|tfm|vf]\microsoft\timesnewroman;
b. texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.map generated in \map\pdftex\context
c. texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.tex created in temp dir.

3. Problem: upon compiling texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.tex. I get
===
 TeXExec 5.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman
output : pdftex
 interface : en
   options : once
  current mode : none
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11b-2.1 (Web2c 7.5.2)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (c:/TeXLive/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
:
:
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Timesi): Font texnansi-raw-Timesi at 
60
0 not found

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Timesbi): Font texnansi-raw-Timesbi at
600 not found
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Timesbd): Font texnansi-raw-Timesbd at
600 not found
c:/TeXLive/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmr6.pfb
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Times): Font texnansi-raw-Times at 600
not found
c:/TeXLive/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmtt10.pfb
Output written on texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.pdf (28 pages, 379871 
bytes)
===

a. Note the warnings;
b. Adobe complains about an error in opening the page (I'm sending you the pdf 
directly)

4. Question: how can I make TeXFont default to C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local instead 
of C:\TeXLive\texmf-local?

I think I'm close to the finish line. Thnx 4 all your help!
Idris
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Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
ishamid wrote:
I really wish that updating/upgrading were not always such a pain...
normally it isn't but currently there are three issues that make it 
painfull:
- incompatible changes in the tds (enc/map paths)
- changes in pdftex (no config, better map support)
- the transition to latin modern
- (unnoticed) changes in pattern file names
- the usual changes in fonts
and ... you end up in the middle of it
i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as the big 
windows zip (will take a few hours)

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RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-17 Thread ishamid
Hi, Hans
= Original Message From Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] =

i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as the 
big
windows zip (will take a few hours)

1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do that?

2. After you upload, please:-) tell me exactly what I need to get things 
working. I only have high-speed access at my office (rather far from here) and 
will head there as soon as you have uploaded things. I only downloaded the 
minimal mswintex.zip; should I get the big one? Should I upgrade to the latest 
fpTeX/TeXLive as well? If so, let me know which depository you use so that I 
don't get the wrong one (yes, I'm paranoid-)

I'll do whatever it takes...

And as always,
Thnx!!!

Idris

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RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-17 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
ishamid wrote:

 I really wish that updating/upgrading were not always such a pain...

normally it isn't but currently there are three issues that make it painfull:

- incompatible changes in the tds (enc/map paths)
- changes in pdftex (no config, better map support)
- the transition to latin modern
- (unnoticed) changes in pattern file names
- the usual changes in fonts

I played around for quite some time with the texmf.cnf environment variables 
in both \TeXLive and \ConTeXt trees. I noticed that even when I got \TeXLive 
to search \ConTeXt first, upon compiling it still could not find certain files 
(a tds issue?), while I could never get \ConTeXt to search \TeXLive properly.

This was not helped by the fact that my July04 fpTeX comes with a corrupt 
kpathsea.pdf documentation using type3 fonts!

Yesterday was not my day...

Best
Idris

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Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
ishamid wrote:
I'll do whatever it takes...
the big mswincontext.zip
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Re: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
ishamid wrote:
Hi, Hans
= Original Message From Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] =

i'll upload a new minimal (beware, tex live 2005 binaries), as well as the 
big
windows zip (will take a few hours)

1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do that?
--engine
or in texexec.ini (rme):
set UseEnginePath to  true
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RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-17 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
 1. Remember that I need both aleph and pdfetex formats; can you do that?

--engine

could you give me an example of its use in building a format?

or in texexec.ini (rme):

set UseEnginePath to  true

Ok, now I have

\texmf-mswin\web2c\aleph
\texmf-mswin\web2c\pdfetex

but aleph is looking in the wrong directory:

This is Aleph, Version 3.141592-1.15-2.1-0.0-rc4 (Web2c 7.5.3)
 \write18 enabled.
Copyright (c) 2002--2004 the Aleph task force
---! c:\CONTEXT\texmf-mswin/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)

Is there a configuration option I'm missing?

Best
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RE: Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-17 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
ishamid wrote:

 I'll do whatever it takes...

the big mswincontext.zip

Maybe it's too late, but is it possible to include the bulk of the omega 
distribution, the parts used by Gamma (basically everything except omega.exe).

Looking forward to it

Idris


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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread Taco Hoekwater
I do not know much about the font installation process, but I did
notice that your TeXFont banner indicates that you use a really old 
version. My TeXFont says:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] TED]$ texfont --help
  TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004
   --fontroot=path : texmf destination font root 
(default:/opt/tex/texmf.local)
  ...

so perhaps that is what is causing your problems?
Greetings, Taco
ishamid wrote:
[I know that all of us and Hans in particular is quite busy but if anyone can 
give me some guidance on this, before I get into trouble with my editor...]

Dear consortium,
I'm having trouble preparing times new roman for ConTeXt. I'm trying to follow
the instructions in mag-0009.pdf, but TeXfont does not want to behave:-(
===
\system_fontstexfont --vendor=microsoft --collection=times
--encoding=texnansi --pattern=times*.afm
 TeXFont 1.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2001 (STILL BETA)
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread Adam Lindsay
A few comments/hints:
On 16 Mar 2005, at 14:40, ishamid wrote:
 TeXFont 1.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2001 (STILL BETA)
The TeXfont I'm running is 2.2.1! (I know I added a little bit of .ttf 
processing code after 2.1)

I tried things manually without the --pattern option and got a
texnansi-microsoft-times.tex
If this file was generated, that's a good sign that the files were 
installed. What do you see in:
(texlocal)\fonts\tfm\microsoft\times  ?

You can verify they were installed with:
texexec --once texnansi-microsoft-times.tex
 (can also add --mode=compact to the CLI).
HTH,
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RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
A few comments/hints:

Thank you!

On 16 Mar 2005, at 14:40, ishamid wrote:

  TeXFont 1.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2001 (STILL BETA)

The TeXfont I'm running is 2.2.1! (I know I added a little bit of .ttf
processing code after 2.1)

Ok, I've got 2.2.1 running...

 I tried things manually without the --pattern option and got a

 texnansi-microsoft-times.tex

If this file was generated, that's a good sign that the files were
installed. What do you see in:
(texlocal)\fonts\tfm\microsoft\times  ?

ok, there are tfm files there, produced by the beta TeXFont, in 
TeXLive\texmf-local\...

But now I can't seem to repeat this with the latest version, and TeXFont does 
not find the afm files. As I told Taco:

===
C:[...]\system_fontsC:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\texfont 
--vendor=microsoft --collection=timesnewroman --encoding=texnansi 
--pattern=times*.afm --rootlist=C:[...]\system_fonts

TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004

mktexlsr: Updating c:/TeXLive/texmf-local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.
   encoding vector : texnansi
   vendor name : microsoft
   source path : .
   font collection : timesnewroman
   texmf font root : c:/texlive/texmf-local
   pdftex map file : texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.map
  processing files : all in pattern times*.afm
locating afm files : using otf files
processing aborted : no afm files found
===

But the afm files are right there in \system_fonts!?!

Any further suggestions will be appreciated!

Idris

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RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
I do not know much about the font installation process, but I did
notice that your TeXFont banner indicates that you use a really old
version.

Ok, I've worked around this (still having upgrade troubles...) but there is
still a problem. I created all afm files in a local directory

system_fonts

but TeXFont does not seem to see them:


[...]\system_fontsC:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\texfont
--vendor=microsoft --collection=timesnewroman --encoding=texnansi
--pattern=times*.afm --rootlist=C:\[...]\system_fonts

TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004

mktexlsr: Updating c:/TeXLive/texmf-local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.
   encoding vector : texnansi
   vendor name : microsoft
   source path : .
   font collection : timesnewroman
   texmf font root : c:/texlive/texmf-local
   pdftex map file : texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.map
  processing files : all in pattern times*.afm
locating afm files : using otf files
processing aborted : no afm files found


Why are no afm files found? And why does my new C:\ConTeXt tree recognize

texmf font root : c:/texlive/texmf-local

when I have not configured it to recognize my TeXLive tree (since I do not
know how-)

Best
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Just a shot in the dark: I've been using texfont a lot these last weeks 
and have experienced that it will give you the error message no afm 
files found when, in fact, the error is somewhere else (in my case, 
there was a typo in the encoding used). I would suggest you run texfont 
on one font file at a time, don't use the *-shortcut for the time 
being. Moreover, are you sure that your system is finding texnansi.enc? 
What does
kpsewhich texnansi.enc
produce?
Finally: are the afm files in good standing? How did you produce them?

Best, good luck
Thomas

On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:41 PM, ishamid wrote:
= Original Message From Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
A few comments/hints:
Thank you!
On 16 Mar 2005, at 14:40, ishamid wrote:
 TeXFont 1.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2001 (STILL BETA)
The TeXfont I'm running is 2.2.1! (I know I added a little bit of .ttf
processing code after 2.1)
Ok, I've got 2.2.1 running...
I tried things manually without the --pattern option and got a
texnansi-microsoft-times.tex
If this file was generated, that's a good sign that the files were
installed. What do you see in:
(texlocal)\fonts\tfm\microsoft\times  ?
ok, there are tfm files there, produced by the beta TeXFont, in
TeXLive\texmf-local\...
But now I can't seem to repeat this with the latest version, and 
TeXFont does
not find the afm files. As I told Taco:

===
C:[...]\system_fontsC:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\texfont
--vendor=microsoft --collection=timesnewroman --encoding=texnansi
--pattern=times*.afm --rootlist=C:[...]\system_fonts
TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004
mktexlsr: Updating c:/TeXLive/texmf-local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.
   encoding vector : texnansi
   vendor name : microsoft
   source path : .
   font collection : timesnewroman
   texmf font root : c:/texlive/texmf-local
   pdftex map file : texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.map
  processing files : all in pattern times*.afm
locating afm files : using otf files
processing aborted : no afm files found
===
But the afm files are right there in \system_fonts!?!
Any further suggestions will be appreciated!
Idris
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RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
I hope you can translate from unix-like pseudo-commands into DOS:

make a new, clean temp directory.
copy times*.ttf into that directory.
from that directory, run:

  texfont --ma --in --ve=microsoft --co=timesnewroman --show

What happens?

Ok, much progress:-)

1. Your command worked as is, no need to translate:-))

2. TeXFont did its magic, with no *apparent* errors (but see below) : 
a. ttf|afm|tfm|vf's are copied to/generated within 
[truetype|afm|tfm|vf]\microsoft\timesnewroman;
b. texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.map generated in \map\pdftex\context
c. texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.tex created in temp dir.

3. Problem: upon compiling texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.tex. I get

===
 TeXExec 5.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004

executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman
output : pdftex
 interface : en
   options : once
  current mode : none

This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11b-2.1 (Web2c 7.5.2)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (c:/TeXLive/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
:
:
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Timesi): Font texnansi-raw-Timesi at 
60
0 not found

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Timesbi): Font texnansi-raw-Timesbi at
600 not found

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Timesbd): Font texnansi-raw-Timesbd at
600 not found
c:/TeXLive/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmr6.pfb
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-Times): Font texnansi-raw-Times at 600
not found
c:/TeXLive/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmtt10.pfb
Output written on texnansi-microsoft-timesnewroman.pdf (28 pages, 379871 
bytes)
===

a. Note the warnings;
b. Adobe complains about an error in opening the page (I'm sending you the pdf 
directly)

4. Question: how can I make TeXFont default to C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local instead 
of C:\TeXLive\texmf-local?

I think I'm close to the finish line. Thnx 4 all your help!

Idris

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RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Thomas A.Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Moreover, are you sure that your system is finding texnansi.enc?
What does
kpsewhich texnansi.enc
produce?

Ok I realize that my texfont problems are almost certainly related to my 
upgrade problems:

a. From C:\TeXLive (old system)

\system_fonts\timesnewromankpsewhich texnansi.enc
c:/TeXLive/texmf/dvips/ly1/texnansi.enc

so far so good

b. From C\:ConTeXt (latest system)

\system_fonts\timesnewromanC:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\kpsewhich texnansi.enc
\system_fonts\timesnewroman

nothing found

So I think my problems in part go back to something I asked before: how do I 
get my C\:ConTeXt tree to secondarily search the TeXLive tree?

Thnx for all your help!
Idris

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RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2005-03-16 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Thomas A.Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
=
hmm, I have zero experience with Windows and wouldn't get near a
computer running Windows if you payed me for it,

I certainly agree with this sentiment, and will make yet another attempt to 
switch to Linux this year; kde3.4 is looking nice...

but I guess there must
be a central configuration file somewhere. On linux and unix systems,
it's called texmf.cnf.

It's the same here; I'll look into it. There may be some os-related syntax 
issues, though, since

kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL

gives

kpsewhich: unrecognized option `-var-value'

But I'll keep working/learning.

Thnx!
Idris


That's where you define which tex-trees you have
and in what order they should be searched. So if you want to have your
new C/Context searched first, your C/Texlive second, one of them should
be set as TEXMFLOCAL, the other as TEXMFMAIN. What does


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Configuring 2 trees [was RE: [NTG-context] Times New Roman]

2005-03-16 Thread ishamid
Dear cartel,

= Original Message From Thomas A.Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
=
What does

kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL
produce?

1.I have 2 trees: C:\Context (from mswintex.zip) and C:\TeXLive (from July04).
 
kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL

works for the \Context tree:

C:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL
c:/ConTeXt/texmf-local

C:\ConTeXt\texmf-mswin\bin\kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFMAIN
c:/ConTeXt/texmf

2. What I would like: how do I properly modify texmf.cnf (presumably 
C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local\web2c\texmf.cnf is the main one) so that

a. C:\ConTeXt is given priority over C:\TeXLive;
b. C:\TeXLive\texmf-var\web2c   formats are searched after
   C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local\web2c
c. C:\ConTeXt utilities like TeXFont install files to
   C:\ConTeXt\texmf-local\
   instead of to
   C:\TeXLive\texmf-local (for some reason the C:\ConTeXt tree does 
recognize C:\TeXLive\texmf-local by default)

Of course, I may be missing the big picture here, in which case please 
enlighten me!

Part of my problem is that

1. apparently I can make both pdfetex and aleph formats in the TeXLive tree 
(efmt and fmt respectively), but only one of them in the ConTeXt tree (both 
are dumped as cont-en.fmt)

2. I can't just dump cont-tmf.zip into TeXLive\texmf-var, because some 
utilities (like texfont.exe) do not get updated or replaced. So I would have 
to manually delete e.g., texfont.exe and replace it with the new texfont.bat, 
making a mess of my TeXLive system.

I really wish that updating/upgrading were not always such a pain...

Best
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman and endnotes

2005-03-04 Thread Hans Hagen
ishamid wrote:
Dear fellow conspirators,
I have a book chapter that is to be published in an edited volume of a
philosophy series by Springer/Kluwer, but the typesetter could not recreate
the transliteration symbols needed. So the editor has just asked me to typeset
the article for them. My chapter is the only thing holding up the publication
of the book. I need two things very urgently:
1. Setups for Times New Roman (is there a Type1 version that comes with TeX?);
http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-10.htm
explains how to use platform fonts; if you have a windows machine, there is, in
  C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
a bunch of Times New Roman. I'm a bit low on time, otherwise i'd generate the 
metrics and add them to the font zip.

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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman and endnotes

2005-03-04 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:49:59 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Setups for Times New Roman (is there a Type1 version that comes with 
TeX?);
http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-10.htm
explains how to use platform fonts; if you have a windows machine, there 
is, in

   C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
a bunch of Times New Roman. I'm a bit low on time, otherwise i'd 
generate the metrics and add them to the font zip.

What about converting footnotes to endnotes?
Best
Idris
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman and endnotes

2005-03-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:49:59 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Setups for Times New Roman (is there a Type1 version that comes 
with TeX?);

http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-10.htm
explains how to use platform fonts; if you have a windows machine, 
there is, in

   C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
a bunch of Times New Roman. I'm a bit low on time, otherwise i'd 
generate the metrics and add them to the font zip.

What about converting footnotes to endnotes?
I always thought that you were the notes expert -)
\setupfootnotes[location=]
\starttext
test \footnote{test}
\page
\placefootnotes
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman and endnotes

2005-03-04 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
What about converting footnotes to endnotes?
I always thought that you were the notes expert -)
Fair enough, it's just that
I really hate endnotes and never even thought about them till now;
With all my non-typesetting work it's easy to get out of practice with my 
ConTeXt skills;-)

Best
Idris
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Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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