Re: [NTG-context] Additional steps taken since the first e-mail

2005-02-27 Thread VnPenguin
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:34:00 +0100, Johannes Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: newinstaller, i struggled more than one day with installation of context. i'm using a different OS (redhat linux) and have a different tex-distribution on it (tetex), but maybe this hint is useful for you too: in the

Re: [NTG-context] Re: lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Ciro A. Soto wrote: I suppose there is a problem then ...right? Yes, there is. I'm sorry I missed that you were using plain earlier, I must be getting too old for this stuff. ;-) Thanks Patrick! This thread is (almost certainly) discussing the same problem:

Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Taco Hoekwater wrote: basically you want to follow a shape; this is not that hard to implement so i can have a look at it; lettrines is then an instance of it Lettrine is easier than that, actually. I thought this would be quite funny, so here is a brand new module called t-lettri.tex, and an

Re: [NTG-context] Bad page breaks!

2005-02-27 Thread G.C.H.M. Verhaag
Hans Hagen wrote: .. did you try: \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 Sorry, for the somewhat delayed response! I tried these penalty settings but they seem to have not effect at all! The only way out is probably rearranging several paragraphs. However I find it strange that I can't influence

Re: [NTG-context] languages

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
VnPenguin wrote: Vietnamese lang uses empty hyphenation pattern. ok, se i've now added: description language='vn' commentVietnamese needs no patterns./comment /description - Hans Hagen |

Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater
h h extern wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Lettrine is easier than that, actually. I thought this would be quite funny, so here is a brand new module called t-lettri.tex, and an example. ah, nice, so, lettrines only does a slanted shape? Yes, only slopes (both directions). And it allows the user to

RE: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread Mats Broberg
auto-lettrines (dropcaps etc) are kind of complex in the sense that it's not trivial to pick up the first 'something' in a paragraph in a robust way [we may want some extension to tex for that (so we have something to discuss during our trip to eurotex -) Hans If I may chime in:

[NTG-context] packaging of extra modules

2005-02-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Peter M√ľnster wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote: This is just a port of lettrine.sty, and I do not believe it should be part of standard ConTeXt. Why not? In it's current state, I will not offer support for this code because it is essentially a quick and dirty query-replace hack

Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread Adam Lindsay
Mats Broberg said this at Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:51:04 +0100: Different typefaces and different characters need different level of protruding into the left margin, as well as other actions of tweaking. Ah, but when Hans says this: it's a good testbed for playing with things like glyph shape

Re: [NTG-context] m-letter stationary]

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Rob Ermers wrote: Hans, Thanks again for the new code. I tried it in my document with my stationary, but it did not work. When I create a new test document with the code you suggested, all pages have VERY ODD in the upper left corner. did you add \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] Hans

Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Taco Hoekwater wrote: David Wooten wrote: Hmm, this is great. However, I can't seem to get it to accept an image (Image=true or Image=yes). Anyone else have some luck? It couldn't work. Here is a new version, with fixed image support, some cleanups in the code, and support for per-argument setup

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Ciro A. Soto wrote: The knowlegeable John Culleton said in one of the lists that he could recognize if a book was typeset with MS-word by looking at the rivers and the lack of but tex is *not* avoiding rivers, since it does not look at it -) hyphenation. I then checked my 310-page book I am

Re: [NTG-context] arabtex support - we broke something

2005-02-27 Thread mzm
Arabic processor `ArabTeX' [20050124 patch level 3.11m (24.01.2005)] I believe the version is 3.11, patch level m. The one I from CTAN dated at 24/01/2005. On 25-Feb-05, at AM 06:00, h h extern wrote: mohd zamri murah wrote: Using test.tex and your new m-arabtex.tex, it fail. log and my

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Try this: \showhyphens{hyphenation} It should print Underfull \hbox (badness 1) in paragraph at lines 2--2 [] \*10ptrmtf* hy-phen-ation on your terminal. If it doesn't, ConTeXt refuses the hyphenate English, possibly because the patterns were not loaded in the format

Re: [NTG-context] Re: lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hello Hans, MS-word by looking at the rivers and the lack of but tex is *not* avoiding rivers, since it does not look at it -) Not yet :-) It is easy to make TeX look, but not as easy to make it see :-) Taco ___ ntg-context

Re: [NTG-context] 4UP with no table of content - bug?

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Ciro A. Soto wrote: I have this 310-page book with a table of content that is alsways fine when I use a single page layout. When I switch to \setuparranging [2UP,rotated,doublesided] it also prints the table of content, however, if I rerun the job for a second time using the 2UP, the table of

Re: [NTG-context] m-letter stationary]

2005-02-27 Thread Rob Ermers
Thanks very much! Now it works perfectly! In hindsight everything is simple. Robert h h extern wrote: Rob Ermers wrote: Hans, Thanks again for the new code. I tried it in my document with my stationary, but it did not work. When I create a new test document with the code you suggested, all pages

RE: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread Mats Broberg
Ciro A. Soto wrote: The knowlegeable John Culleton said in one of the lists that he could recognize if a book was typeset with MS-word by looking at the rivers and the lack of hyphenation. I then checked my 310-page book I am typesetting with context and not a single line had a hyphenated

Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Ok, so I *should* be doing other stuff, but this is just a lot of fun, so here is the 3rd version, with three bugfixes - No more font messages (followed Hans' advice) - No more \sbox redefinition (used it's expansion instead) - The page breaks unless the lettrine actually fits (this is an

RE: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread Mats Broberg
Taco, Great work. I did some tests of this and have a few comments: - I tested with the inital H and [Lines=4,Hang=.1,Nindent=20pt,Findent=20pt]. This makes the H itself be indented too (see enclosed dump). It seems that Findent adds space both before and after the dropcap, when it only should

Re: [NTG-context] Additional steps taken since the first e-mail

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Mats Broberg wrote: However, when I run the test file, I still get the unknown file type: texmfscripts as the first entry, but the test file seem to be processed anyway. Does this mean I can forget about this warning? seesm like your tex binaries and context scripts are not in sync; Also, what

Re: [NTG-context] small caps

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Adam Lindsay wrote: This is good stuff. I've tried to advocate a naming convention that would be appropriate to this. I would suggest calling this texnansi-osfsc.enc, as baseencoding-variant.enc. This is so a modified encoding can masquerade as the base encoding within ConTeXt. i'll add the

Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Gerben Wierda wrote: how do you handle additions like this in your ConTeXt distribution? Will they become part of it for instance? Hans usually asks authors whether they want the module to be part of the distribution. Mostly, authors say yes, but not always. This is just

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Adam Lindsay wrote: These namespaces contain elements with different levels of abstraction. ContML is higher-level, more structural, fx (just a demonstration, so far) was a bit more low-level, somewhere between ConTeXt and FO. one of the downsides of xml is that it comes with set of 'standard

Re: [NTG-context] Re: lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hello Hans, MS-word by looking at the rivers and the lack of but tex is *not* avoiding rivers, since it does not look at it -) Not yet :-) It is easy to make TeX look, but not as easy to make it see :-) It has to do with grayness, so i wonder what

Re: [NTG-context] Additional steps taken since the first e-mail

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Johannes Werner wrote: newinstaller, i struggled more than one day with installation of context. i'm using a different OS (redhat linux) and have a different tex-distribution on it (tetex), but maybe this hint is useful for you too: in the tetex-distro there is a file .../texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf

Re: [NTG-context] arabtex support - we broke something

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
mzm wrote: Arabic processor `ArabTeX' [20050124 patch level 3.11m (24.01.2005)] I believe the version is 3.11, patch level m. The one I from CTAN dated at 24/01/2005. hm, i run 3.08 (texlive) and that one runs ok; can you try 3.08 Hans

Re: [NTG-context] Bad page breaks!

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: .. did you try: \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 Sorry, for the somewhat delayed response! I tried these penalty settings but they seem to have not effect at all! The only way out is probably rearranging several paragraphs. However I find it strange

Re: [NTG-context] Python,swig and pdftex ?

2005-02-27 Thread luigi.scarso
Janko Hauser wrote: luigi.scarso schrieb: I'm try do make something useful with Python and pdftex using swig. Any suggestions ? Have you looked at pytex? It does nothing with pdftex, but I do not know what do you want to actually do. __Janko