Re: [NTG-context] header to register

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 23, 2008 10:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame. Thank you, I always forget about \expanded, and I didn't know about deeptextcommand at

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Yue Wang wrote: LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua=cont-en.luc Jikes, I am afraid luatools is too new now: this needs the luatex trunk, not beta-0.20.0 :-( ___ If your question is of interest to others

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 28, 2008 3:17 AM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf seem to use the generic font loading mechanism. This is wrong,

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hello, Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf seem to use the generic font loading mechanism. I would like to answer more completely, but don't have much time for the moment. About

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
actually, there is code in there but you need to specify chinese as feature \definefontfeature [chinese-traditional] [mode=node,script=hang,lang=zht] \definefontfeature [chinese-simple] [mode=node,script=hang,lang=zhs] OK, but hang should still be replaced by hani if you

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Do you mean simply closer to the margin, or in the margin itself (protruding)? Protruding is already possible in pdfTeX; I believe it is available in LuaTeX as well, although it might be broken for the moment (Taco?). Protrusion should be available in luatex as

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 28, 2008 1:11 PM, Yue Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and download the file, unzip it and run. after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv format

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision = 979). Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: Hi, I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and download the file, unzip it and run. after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv format (other formats are fine) I run Debian on x86

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: Hi, I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and download the file, unzip it and run. after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv format (other formats are fine) I run Debian on x86

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Yue Wang
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision = 979). Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the platforms I have access

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Jan 28, 2008 6:43 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision = 979). Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the platforms I have access to,

Re: [NTG-context] \placeregister[index][compress=yes] BROKEN ??

2008-01-28 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 28.01.2008 um 18:45 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, please have a look at following minimal: I can confirm that it is indeed broken, but because of the mkii/mkiv split, it is hard for me to track the exact cause. Do you happen to know when the last moment (i.e.

Re: [NTG-context] \placeregister[index][compress=yes] BROKEN ??

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, please have a look at following minimal: I can confirm that it is indeed broken, but because of the mkii/mkiv split, it is hard for me to track the exact cause. Do you happen to know when the last moment (i.e. context release) was that it *did* work? Best wishes,

[NTG-context] update

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, i uploaded a fix for the reported problems; the uploaded version also uses lua for locating files that have to be included; this should work with the mkiv xml too (i forgot who asked for that but i needed it myself too) -- -

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision = 979). Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the platforms I have access to, i.e. mac intel, linux 32

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
i'm not going to waste time on protruding in mkiv, later this year we will have proper font related protruding and hz tables and then i will pick up that thread Anyway, if you read Yue's reply, he says the glyphs should not protrude in Chinese anyway ;-) But I'm pretty sure they can in

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Do you mean simply closer to the margin, or in the margin itself (protruding)? Protruding is already possible in pdfTeX; I believe it is available in LuaTeX as well, although it might be broken for the moment (Taco?). Protrusion should be

[NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Yue Wang
Hi, I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and download the file, unzip it and run. after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv format (other formats are fine) I run Debian on x86 intel machine. I had

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision = 979). Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the platforms I have access to, i.e. mac intel, linux 32 akira's windows bin) You

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Jikes, I am afraid luatools is too new now: this needs the luatex trunk, not beta-0.20.0 :-( Well, I can confirm that things work with a fresh svn checkout and the latest current. Funny, Taco and Hans racing each other :-) All best

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Yue Wang
Thank you very much for your mail! On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf seem to use the

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
This is wrong, fon-otf contains a few lua macros about linebreaking and char-def has information about the character width (full width, half width ...) and other information like opening punctuation, parenthesis but none of them is finished. OK, I thought line breaking would be managed in

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Adobe like AdobeSongStd don't have a hang script at all anyway. Do you know fonts that have? btw, the same is true for japanese and korean ... i like these glyphs and playing with them but i need input from users on how to organize things, i.e. script/lang

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf seem to use the generic font loading mechanism. I would like to answer more completely, but don't have much time for

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: You need the hang script, it takes care about the linebreak. What do you mean? How does it take care about the linebreak? And how can it be relevant for Chinese characters? Default Chinese fonts from Adobe like AdobeSongStd don't have a hang script at all

Re: [NTG-context] header to register

2008-01-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-01-28 um 09:16 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: On Jan 23, 2008 10:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame. Thank you, I always forget about

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
But luatools should be patched as well. Passing an argument completely coverd in quotes is not right, even if it accidentally does work with the latest binary. That's what I thought, too. Thanks for confirming it. Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision = 979). Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the platforms I have access to, i.e. mac intel, linux 32 akira's windows bin) yes