[NTG-context] context editor support / syntax highlighting for Pulsar

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi Hans (et al.),

find attached a slightly extended version of the "interface" script that 
can also generate the list of commands in cson format for Pulsar/Atom.


It just creates a basic list of commands for syntax highlighting; for a 
complete plugin, "grammars" and "settings" are missing, see 
https://codeberg.org/fiee/language-context
(Yes, this approach is oldfashioned and a plugin could do a lot more, 
but I don’t speak TypeScript.)


The generated cson file is for "snippets", like in:
https://codeberg.org/fiee/language-context/src/branch/master/snippets/language-context.cson

There, I added information from the interface files and also from the 
wiki, if existing. I don’t know how to do that in the lua script.


---
function flushers.pulsar(collected)
for interface, whatever in next, collected do
local commands = whatever.commands
local environments = whatever.environments
local result, r = { }, 0
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = "'.text.tex.context':\n"
for i=1,#commands do
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t'\\%s':\n",commands[i])
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t\tprefix: 
'%s'\n",commands[i])

-- can we have some information?
--r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t\tdescription: 'level: 
primitive; interface: i-tex.xml'",'')

-- no URL if command starts with "stop"
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t\tdescriptionMoreURL: 
'https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/%s'\n",commands[i])

end
io.savedata(format("language-context-%s.cson",interface), 
concat(result),"\n")

end
end
---

Also, the "en" interface is empty, everything is in "common", so the 
iteration over interfaces makes no sense here.



Actually, Atom/Pulsar could work with a tree sitter parser 
(https://github.com/pmazaitis/tree-sitter-context), but I don’t know how 
to use it.



[TextMate]
For TextMate and other editors that use TM bundles, it might make sense 
to update https://github.com/pgundlach/context.tmbundle
At least the list of commands could be automatically converted from the 
interface files, but it’s more involved than what mtx-interface does.



[Visual Studio Code / VSCodium]
BTW, is the ConTeXt language server for VS Code public anywhere? 
(Ramkumar KB promised…) Or is "mtxrun --script=vscode --lsfile" the same?


Hrabanif not modules then modules = { } end modules ['mtx-cache'] = {
version   = 1.001,
comment   = "companion to mtxrun.lua",
author= "Hans Hagen, PRAGMA-ADE, Hasselt NL",
copyright = "PRAGMA ADE / ConTeXt Development Team",
license   = "see context related readme files"
}

local concat, sort, insert = table.concat, table.sort, table.insert
local gsub, format, gmatch, find, upper = string.gsub, string.format, 
string.gmatch, string.find, string.upper
local utfchar, utfgsub = utf.char, utf.gsub
local sortedkeys, sortedhash, serialize = table.sortedkeys, table.sortedhash, 
table.serialize

local helpinfo = [[


 
  mtx-interface
  ConTeXt Interface Related Goodies
  0.14
 
 
  
   
generate context mkii interface 
files
   
   
equals   
   
   
generate scite interface
generate bbedit interface files
generate jedit interface files
generate pulsar/atom interface 
files
generate textpad interface files
generate vim interface files
create text files for commands and 
environments
report commands to the console
generate check file
report the meaning of commands
show the internal representation of 
commands
   
   
replace named characters by utf
preprocess mkvi files to tex files 
[force,suffix]
   
   
use given suffix for output files
force action even when in doubt
   
   
a pattern for meaning lookups
   
  
 

]]

local application = logs.application {
name = "mtx-interface",
banner   = "ConTeXt Interface Related Goodies 0.13",
helpinfo = helpinfo,
}

local report = application.report

scripts   = scripts   or { }
scripts.interface = scripts.interface or { }

local flushers  = { }
local userinterfaces= { 'en','cs','de','it','nl','ro','fr','pe' }
local messageinterfaces = { 'en','cs','de','it','nl','ro','fr','pe','no' }

local function collect(filename,class,data)
if data then
local result, r = { }, 0
for name, list in sortedhash(data) do
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("keywordclass.%s.%s=\\\n",class,name)
for i=1,#list do
if i%5 == 0 then
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = "\\\n"
end
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("%s ",list[i])
end
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = "\n\n"
end
io.savedata(file.addsuffix(filename,"properties"),concat(result))
io.savedata(file.addsuffix(filename,"lua"),serialize(data,true))
else
os.remove(filename)
end
end

function flushers.scite(collected)
local data 

[NTG-context] ConTeXt on RPI400

[hf]

Hello,
I have installed ConTeXt on my Raspberry Pi 400 (aarch64), tried to typeset 
this simple file:
```
\starttext
First tex file to make, hello, world!
\stoptext

```
but the test failed:
```
$context hello-world.tex

mtxrun | forcing cache reload
resolvers | resolving | configuration files already identified
resolvers | resolving | skipping configuration file 
'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no valid format)
resolvers | resolving | no texmf paths are defined (using TEXMF)
resolvers | resolving |
mtxrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua'
resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-context.lua' using hash 
'lua::mtx-context.lua'
resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua'
resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-contexts.lua' using hash 
'lua::mtx-contexts.lua'
resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-context.lua'
resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua'
resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-t-mtx-context.lua' using hash 
'lua::mtx-t-mtx-context.lua'
resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua'
resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-t-mtx-contexts.lua' using hash 
'lua::mtx-t-mtx-contexts.lua'
resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-t-mtx-context.lua'
resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-context.lua'
mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'
```
What's wrong with my installation?
Best,
Hong Feng
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[NTG-context] Context lmtx for 32bit under LUBUNTU 18.04

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

A month or so ago Hans provided a new upload (thanks I 
managed to get and install it on my Windows 10 64b). At that 
time I was struggling for having my computers back in order 
(that appends sometimes).


Now I'd like to have LMTX on an old but still used (when 
travelling) portable under lubuntu 18.04 32Bits.


There is no more executable available on pragma and I am 
using Context from TeX Live, but it is the 2017 version.


I can do with it, but it would be better to have Context 
lmtx latest.


Is it possible to have it? But if this a too complicate 
problem, I'll stand with the TeX Live Context.


Thanks for the system anyway.

Regards,

Alain Delmotte
Montpellier, France

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[NTG-context] context version 20240118 (was: "Registerhaltigkeit")

[Thomas Meyer]

What is going on?

Yesterday I got a perfect on-grid-written document!
But today, with the newest context-version (20240118) all changed for 
the worse.


I may not get a reply to this e-mail either!


Am 17.01.24 um 20:57 schrieb Thomas Meyer:

Got it.

Am 14.01.24 um 17:36 schrieb Thomas Meyer:

Here comes my minimal example.
\vfill doesn't fit the grid, the counted blank works.

Is it possible to jump to grid with blank[?] ?

Am 14.01.24 um 13:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

Thomas Meyer schrieb am 14.01.2024 um 11:21:

Thank you Wolfgang and Hraban,
it can be so easy!

But if my last subject should be at the end of the page and I shift 
it with \vfill to the end, the last subject doesn't fit the grid!


Can you provide a minimal example where you show what you're trying 
to place at the bottom of the page.


Wolfgang




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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Group Subscriptions

[Keith McKay]

Hi,

I was wondering if the reminder for the ConTeXt Group Membership 
subscriptions had been sent out? It's been over a year since I took out 
membership and I thought I would have had a reminder by now. I hope I 
haven't missed the email.


Best Wishes

Keith McKay

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[NTG-context] context not producing synctex output that my synctex program can use

[Jim]

Hi,

I've read the wiki, looked at workflows-synctex.tex, searched the web, and
scratched my head, all to no avail.  So here I am, cap in hand...

When I run context, I get a .synctex file which has some information in it,
but I can't find any invocation of synctex to return anything useful.  Nor
does the okular example in the wiki (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/SyncTeX)
work for me.  Ocular starts, but always on the first page, regardless of
what line number I give it.

On the other hand, pdftex creates a .synctex file which my copy of synctex
find useful.

I am using the synctex from the current version of texlive:
This is SyncTeX command line utility, version 1.5

Can anyone either
(a) enlighten me on what I am doing wrong; or
(b) definitively confirm that context is not currently playing nicely with
synctex (the wiki notwithstanding) and I should give up this quest for
now.

Thanks very much.

Jim
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt support for Nova text editor (MacOS)

[Paul Mazaitis]

Hello, list!

I'm working on a ConTeXt language extension for the Nova editor by Panic 
software (https://nova.app/).

The extension is here:

https://github.com/pmazaitis/nova-context/releases/tag/0.6.0

...currently in beta, but fairly functional.

This version of the extension supports:

* Syntax Highlighting
* Folding for (most) environments
* Navigating by Symbols (headings: chapter, section, etc.)
* Spell-checking of body text and section titles
* Managing builds with Nova's tasks system

(As an aside, this extension uses an updated version of the ConTeXt tree-sitter 
parser [https://github.com/pmazaitis/tree-sitter-context] that can now 
recognize (most) environments and use them to parse out the document hierarchy.)

Limitations at the moment: not all environments are supported (only those with 
\start and \stop commands right now), and the extension only supports English.

Happy for any bug reports, etc.,

-Paul
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Garden : Use the fonts you want

[Jean-Pierre Delange]

I have just refreshed the ConTeXt Garden page with some additional 
information on the search for new fonts installed in the 
/context/tex/texmf-fonts/ directory.


https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want

JP

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2023 attendance (please read)

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi all,

This is a reminder that the registration for the upcoming ConTeXt meeting in 
Sibrina, Czech Republic is still open. The meeting will take place from Sept 10 
to Sept 16. You can go to 

  https://meeting.contextgarden.net

for more information. You will also find the registration form there. You can 
(of course) attend in person, but registration for online only attendance is 
also possible!

We hope to see you next month!

NOTE: There have recently been problems with the delivery of the filled-in 
registration form to the organisers. If you have registered sometime *in the 
last month* but have not heard from Jano or me yet, please re-register (the 
form emailer is fixed) or at least drop us a message!

Best wishes,
Taco


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[NTG-context] ConTeXt posters?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi,
did you make once by chance a ConTeXt-themed poster that I could pin at 
the DANTE booth at FrOSCon and the TeX tent at CCCamp?

(I‘d just need the PDF or maybe the sources.)

Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Miguel Diaz via ntg-context]

thanks a lot for the overleaf hack Aditya, i once tried to configure
something similar but it did not work!
and thanks for the latexcgi link, it has much more speed in processing,
though that is not important for me (i am learning the basics in my spare
time, so a couple of seconds more or less is ok).

On a quick search i found a lot of Zdeněk Svoboda, but i will try to find
the one of the project and ask him to offer it to the community, I found
context-on-web simple and effective, it even hat a table-generator for easy
things.

El lun, 26 jun 2023 a las 20:39, Hans Hagen via ntg-context (<
ntg-context@ntg.nl>) escribió:

> On 6/26/2023 7:53 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> >> indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex).
> >
> > FWIW, context works on overleaf as well!
> >
> > Simply create a `latexmkrc` file with the following content:
> >
> > ```
> > $pdflatex="context --synctex=1 --result=output %S; cp output.log
> /compile/output.log;cp output.pdf /compile/output.pdf";
> > $recorder=0;
> > $pdf_mode=1;
> I found back this link:
>
> https://davidcarlisle.github.io/latexcgi/testc
>
>
> % !TEX mtxrun --script context
>
> \starttext
>
> \dorecurse{500}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Runs 113 pages in 1.13 sec so quite ok for a remote un I guess.
>
> I'm not sure how up to date it is.
>
> (The default is some old tex document using pdftex.)
>
> Hans
>
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 6/26/2023 7:53 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote:


indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex).


FWIW, context works on overleaf as well!

Simply create a `latexmkrc` file with the following content:

```
$pdflatex="context --synctex=1 --result=output %S; cp output.log 
/compile/output.log;cp output.pdf /compile/output.pdf";
$recorder=0;
$pdf_mode=1;

I found back this link:

https://davidcarlisle.github.io/latexcgi/testc


% !TEX mtxrun --script context

\starttext

\dorecurse{500}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}

\stoptext

Runs 113 pages in 1.13 sec so quite ok for a remote un I guess.

I'm not sure how up to date it is.

(The default is some old tex document using pdftex.)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 6/26/2023 8:03 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

Am 26.06.23 um 19:43 schrieb Miguel Diaz:
indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying 
to learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an 
installation and configuration.
unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the 
maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be 
in the same server.
But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for 
my ignorance!

and thanks anyway


Well, it’s not by the university, but the master(?) thesis of one 
student. He never published the source code, and apparently he stopped 
hosting it at all.


i suppose that it runs on a university machine

Unfortunately silent disappearance is a common fate of the really 
interesting ConTeXt and MetaPost projects from Brno.
probably true for many projects by students who eventually move on; but 
if we can pick up on it ...


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 6/26/2023 7:43 PM, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote:

indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying to
learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an
installation and configuration.
unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the
maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be in
the same server.
But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for my
ignorance!


We have to wait what Tomas will say. I think the idea was to put the 
code on github so that one can install locally or anywhere. (It should 
be trivial to set up a vm).


It runs the latest lmtx and I tested it a bit and performance was pretty 
good (such a service makes no sense if it doesn't run close to local 
speed). My collegue tested it with huge collections of xml files that 
also worked ok.


Let's hope for the best,

Hans



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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 26.06.23 um 19:43 schrieb Miguel Diaz:
indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying to 
learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an 
installation and configuration.
unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the 
maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be in 
the same server.
But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for my 
ignorance!

and thanks anyway


Well, it’s not by the university, but the master(?) thesis of one 
student. He never published the source code, and apparently he stopped 
hosting it at all.


Unfortunately silent disappearance is a common fate of the really 
interesting ConTeXt and MetaPost projects from Brno.


Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context wrote:

> indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). 

FWIW, context works on overleaf as well!

Simply create a `latexmkrc` file with the following content:

```
$pdflatex="context --synctex=1 --result=output %S; cp output.log 
/compile/output.log;cp output.pdf /compile/output.pdf";
$recorder=0;
$pdf_mode=1;
```

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Miguel Diaz via ntg-context]

indeed it is a simple simulation of overleaf (for latex). But trying to
learn the basics it is great that you can try context without an
installation and configuration.
unfortunately the web is no more accesible and when I heard that the
maillist hat problems as result of upgrade i thought the web would be in
the same server.
But it seems the web is not of Pragma but of a university. Sorry for my
ignorance!
and thanks anyway

El lun, 26 jun 2023 a las 9:09, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context (<
ntg-context@ntg.nl>) escribió:

> Am 26.06.23 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context:
> > Dear Miguel,
> >
> >> On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:48, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >> and sorry if this is not the right place to post.
> >>
> >> Context-on-web is no more accesible.
> >
> > What is this context-on-web? I tried searching, but context+web produces
> rather useless results.
>
> https://context-on-web.eu
> online IDE by Zdeněk Svoboda of Brno university
>
>
> Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 26.06.23 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context:

Dear Miguel,


On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:48, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context  
wrote:

Hi everyone,
and sorry if this is not the right place to post.

Context-on-web is no more accesible.


What is this context-on-web? I tried searching, but context+web produces rather 
useless results.


https://context-on-web.eu
online IDE by Zdeněk Svoboda of Brno university


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Re: [NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context]

Dear Miguel,

> On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:48, Miguel Diaz via ntg-context  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> and sorry if this is not the right place to post.
> 
> Context-on-web is no more accesible.

What is this context-on-web? I tried searching, but context+web produces rather 
useless results.

Best wishes,
Taco
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[NTG-context] context-on-web broken

[Miguel Diaz via ntg-context]

Hi everyone,
and sorry if this is not the right place to post.

Context-on-web is no more accesible. Though as a complete newbie to latex
and context world I was just making a very basic format definition, i was
glad i got a basic working layout. Now i cannot access the online
application and I have no copy of the very simple sample file on which i
would like to continue with my practice.

So, will context-on-web be back? or is there a way to access my files?
I can begin again, but it took me over 3 weeks to get the most basic layout!
thanks in advance

Miguel D.
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Re: [NTG-context] Context Live

[Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context]

> On 24 May 2023, at 17:10, Jeroen via ntg-context  wrote:
> 
> I would like to setup a website with a live Context renderer like 
> live.contextgarden.net 
> Is there a procedure how to setup such a live setup?

It is a chroot jail and a few scripts to integrate with the web browser. I will 
send you the files via private email.

Best wishes,
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[NTG-context] Context Live

[Jeroen via ntg-context]

I would like to setup a website with a live Context renderer like
live.contextgarden.net

Is there a procedure how to setup such a live setup?

Thanks, Jeroen
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt features in pandoc 3

[Saša Janiška via ntg-context]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 08:22:46 +0100
juh via ntg-context  wrote:

> At work at my cooperative Hostsharing eG we use the way Markdown -->
> Pandoc --> ConTeXt and we are quite happy with the results. Sadly I
> don't have time to document it in full up to now.

OK. thanks.

> For my own writing I was using Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt for
> quite a while and was happy with it, too. Recently I switched to
> Org-Mode as I started to use org-roam to organize my Zettelkasten and
> want to make use of the org-mode TODO workflow states to organize the
> writing process. I use org-pandoc to export from org-mode/emacs to
> context. 

Interesting. I'm also into Zettelaksten, but consider to just use index cards. 
:-)

> I can also use ox-context but I have difficulties to
> customize it to my needs. 

I see...

> The main problem is that both org-pandoc and ox-context are developed
> by very few people. My lisp knowledge is very limited so I have to
> stick with what is there.

Here I am with you. ;)

> 
> Having a solid pipe from the first ideas to the print pdf would be
> nice. For now I would say that the exports from org-mode are the weak
> element in the chain. But if they fail I can export to Markdown and
> do the last steps via Markdown --> Pandoc.

Consdidering that either way, iow. both for Markdown or org-mode, I bet that 
some work is to be done on the exported markup before producing PDF, I wonder 
if you write/tweak ConTeXt markup in Emacs?

For that purpose I also played a bit with digestif...

> That said I have to confess that I do more sophisticated layout things
> like flyers in pure ConTeXt as it is much faster.  

I can imagine, but I've a long way before mastering ConTeXt...still I'm 
confident that for producing a book it is better option than fiddling with 
LaTex - I did two books long ago using it along with LyX - but for preparing 
the content, it could be easier to do it using markdown/org-mode.


Sincerely,
Saša

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt features in pandoc 3

[luigi scarso via ntg-context]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 08:30, juh via ntg-context 
wrote:

>
> For my own writing I was using Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt for quite
> a while and was happy with it, too. Recently I switched to Org-Mode as I
> started to use org-roam to organize my Zettelkasten and want to make use
> of the org-mode TODO workflow states to organize the writing process. I
> use org-pandoc to export from org-mode/emacs to context. I can also use
> ox-context but I have difficulties to customize it to my needs.
>
> The main problem is that both org-pandoc and ox-context are developed by
> very few people. My lisp knowledge is very limited so I have to stick
> with what is there.
>
> Having a solid pipe from the first ideas to the print pdf would be nice.
> For now I would say that the exports from org-mode are the weak element
> in the chain. But if they fail I can export to Markdown and do the last
> steps via Markdown --> Pandoc.
>
> That said I have to confess that I do more sophisticated layout things
> like flyers in pure ConTeXt as it is much faster.
>

It would be very nice to have a paper / wiki / whatever ... about
your workflow Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt using Org-Mode.
In these cases, having "a working workflow" to start with is much better
than nothing.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt features in pandoc 3

[juh via ntg-context]

Am Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 04:11:09PM +0100 schrieb Saša Janiška via ntg-context:
> I'll probably start to work on a book soon and would like to typeset it using 
> ConTeXt, but wonder which markup to use as a source in a Markdown (via 
> Pandoc) 
> --> ConTeXt or possibly org-mode (via Pandoc) --> ConTeXt?
> 
> Anyone has some serious experience with org-mode (via ox-context) --> ConTeXt?

At work at my cooperative Hostsharing eG we use the way Markdown -->
Pandoc --> ConTeXt and we are quite happy with the results. Sadly I
don't have time to document it in full up to now.

For my own writing I was using Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt for quite
a while and was happy with it, too. Recently I switched to Org-Mode as I
started to use org-roam to organize my Zettelkasten and want to make use
of the org-mode TODO workflow states to organize the writing process. I
use org-pandoc to export from org-mode/emacs to context. I can also use
ox-context but I have difficulties to customize it to my needs. 

The main problem is that both org-pandoc and ox-context are developed by
very few people. My lisp knowledge is very limited so I have to stick
with what is there.

Having a solid pipe from the first ideas to the print pdf would be nice.
For now I would say that the exports from org-mode are the weak element
in the chain. But if they fail I can export to Markdown and do the last
steps via Markdown --> Pandoc.

That said I have to confess that I do more sophisticated layout things
like flyers in pure ConTeXt as it is much faster.  

juh

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt features in pandoc 3

[Saša Janiška via ntg-context]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:00:31 +0100
Albert Krewinkel via ntg-context  wrote:

> Hello,

> a new version of pandoc, the universal document converter, was
> released two days ago; pandoc 3 comes with new ConTeXt-related
> features on which we've spend a good bit of time:

I'll probably start to work on a book soon and would like to typeset it using 
ConTeXt, but wonder which markup to use as a source in a Markdown (via Pandoc) 
--> ConTeXt or possibly org-mode (via Pandoc) --> ConTeXt?

Anyone has some serious experience with org-mode (via ox-context) --> ConTeXt?

In the past I was told that ConTeXt suppor in Pandoc is not so great, so wonder 
how is it today?


Sincerely,
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt features in pandoc 3

[Pawel Urbanski via ntg-context]

>
>
> Hi Albert,

Fantastic news. Thanks to Pandoc and completions in editors I can create
great looking documents at the speed of light...
Since you've asked for ideas or suggestions here are a few:
** Create a Pandoc markdown directive that woulc allow for document
includes - in the style and spirit of Context components.
** Add the ability to place a pandoc.yaml file in the folder so it can be
picked by Pandoc to get options for this folder and contained documents,
** Use LUA to run something like pipes inside Pandoc itself - LUA could be
the format for the 'pandoc' file I've mentioned,
** Something Context and accessibility related:
Screen readers allow to navigate quickly by element type, for example:
heading / list / form elements. Headings are very useful to quickly move
around the document but htere is one corner case. Context splits the
heading number and heading itself into separate parts.
When doing this quick navigation the user hears for example: 1.2 or 3.4 and
need to reach for the arrow keys to scroll to the next logical line to read
the very heading.
I don't know if it is possible at the tagging level to combine the number
and the heading tible togehter wiht a space in between, os htey are not
stringed together in an unnatural way. Taggs are a bit like a parallel
universe.
 Please drop a line if you would like to digg further...

All the best,
Pawel
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt features in pandoc 3

[Albert Krewinkel via ntg-context]

Hello,

a new version of pandoc, the universal document converter, was
released two days ago; pandoc 3 comes with new ConTeXt-related
features on which we've spend a good bit of time:

- *Syntax highlighting*: Pandoc makes use of the syntax
  definitions and styles created by the KDE project to highlight
  source code. This already worked with HTML, LaTeX, and formats
  like docx, and is now also supported for ConTeXt.

- *Inline code*: older versions of pandoc had some weird behavior
  wrt inline code in ConTeXt, switching between `\type` and
  `\mono`, which made it difficult to customize the output. This
  has been fixed.

- *Tagging-focused output*: Calling pandoc with
  `--to=context+tagging` creates markup that is geared towards the
  creation of tagged PDFs. This can be combined with `-V pdfa=3a`
  to produce accessible PDFs from various input sources.

- *Unlisted/unnumbered headings*: Headings with class "unnumbered"
  are not numbered; those with class "unlisted" get omitted from
  the ToC.

- *Figures*: We have improved support for figures considerably,
  and now also support subfigures. This is currently most
  noticeable when converting from HTML to ConTeXt.

Downloads and full changelog:
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/releases/tag/3.0

I'm grateful for any and all feedback, including tips on how to
improve pandoc further.

Cheers,
Albert

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Workshop at Chemnitzer Linuxtage

[juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context]

Dear all,

does anyone feels tempted to give a context workshop at the Chemnitzer 
Linuxtage next year in march?


https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2023/de/programm/call-for-lectures

I made a workshop at FrOSCon this summer and could help.

I might attend the Linuxtage myself but this is unsure.

Ciao!
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Re: [NTG-context] Context crashes using Iosevka v16.3.6 typeface

[Werner Schmidt via ntg-context]

Dear list,

issue is solved with the latest update of ConTeXt. 

Thanks to everyone for the release. 

ConTeXt is just awesome :) 

Best Werner



On November 14, 2022 10:27:38 AM UTC, Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
 wrote:
>On 11/12/2022 12:02 PM, Werner Schmidt via ntg-context wrote:
>> Dear list,
>> 
>> I like to use the Iosevka as mono typeface. It worked in the past, but sadly 
>> context crashes now with the following error.
>> 
>>  fatal error: /font-dsp-macro.lua:2336: attempt to index a nil value 
>> (local 'sequence')
>> 
>> Plese see MWE below.
>> 
>> Any ideas how debug / solve this issue?
>
>i'll intercept it
>
>Hans
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Context crashes using Iosevka v16.3.6 typeface

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 11/12/2022 12:02 PM, Werner Schmidt via ntg-context wrote:

Dear list,

I like to use the Iosevka as mono typeface. It worked in the past, but sadly 
context crashes now with the following error.

 fatal error: /font-dsp-macro.lua:2336: attempt to index a nil value (local 
'sequence')

Plese see MWE below.

Any ideas how debug / solve this issue?


i'll intercept it

Hans


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[NTG-context] Context crashes using Iosevka v16.3.6 typeface

[Werner Schmidt via ntg-context]

Dear list, 

I like to use the Iosevka as mono typeface. It worked in the past, but sadly 
context crashes now with the following error. 

fatal error: /font-dsp-macro.lua:2336: attempt to index a nil value (local 
'sequence')

Plese see MWE below. 

Any ideas how debug / solve this issue? 

Thanks in advance. 
Werner 



--- test_iosevka. tex 

% Win 10 Enterprise, x64, 10.0.19042 Build 19042
% ConTeXt  ver: 2022.10.22 11:23 LMTX  fmt: 2022.11.12  int: english/english

% fatal error: /font-dsp-macro.lua:2336: attempt to index a nil value (local 
'sequence')

\starttypescriptcollection[myfonts]
  % Mono - iosevka (Iosevka SS09 — Terminal, Hinted)
  % Source: https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka/blob/v16.3.6/doc/PACKAGE-LIST.md
  \starttypescript [mono] [iosevka] [name]
  \setups[font:fallback:mono]
  \definefontsynonym [Mono][file:iosevka-term-ss09-light]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoItalic]  [file:iosevka-term-ss09-lightitalic]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoSlanted] [file:iosevka-term-ss09-lightoblique]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoBold][file:iosevka-term-ss09-semibold]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoBoldItalic]  
[file:iosevka-term-ss09-semibolditalic]
  \definefontsynonym [MonoBoldSlanted] 
[file:iosevka-term-ss09-semiboldoblique]
  \stoptypescript

  \starttypescript[iosevka]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [tt] [mono] [iosevka] [default] 
[rscale=0.84,features={default,ss09=yes}]
  \stoptypescript
\stoptypescriptcollection

%\setupbodyfont [mono] % Latin Modern Mono works!
\setupbodyfont [iosevka] % iosevka v16.3.6 crashes! :-(

\starttext
\input{zapf}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] context --autopdf and --showdirectives

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 01.11.22 um 23:22 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:

  > * How can I configure the command for --autopdf ? (Something in

texmfcnf.lua?)



you can try to set it in the cnf:
  -- ["pdfview.method"]   = "sumatra",


Oops, I didn’t see that line.
But I can’t set it to "open" or any other custom command; "auto" works.


* What’s wrong with --showdirectives?


i'll fix the show variant, just use --directives


Ok

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Re: [NTG-context] context --autopdf and --showdirectives

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 10/31/2022 11:01 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
I’d like to configure the default behaviour of "context --autopdf"; 
since on my Mac I must always write "--autopdf=auto", otherwise context 
tries to call


wine "sumatrapdf.exe" -reuse-instance -bg-color 0xCC

instead of e.g. "open".

There’s a hint about "directives_pdfview_method", so I wanted to find 
out more about directives:

"context --showdirectives" looks promising;
it tells me "result saved in file: 
.../texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/mtx-context-setters.pdf", but 
that file isn’t there; it is actually in the current directory, but broken.


it's more a side effect, we need to run context to get them

 > * How can I configure the command for --autopdf ? (Something in

texmfcnf.lua?)

* Can we add additional options ("pdfview methods: auto default okular 
pdfxcview sumatra"), e.g. open (should be default on Mac), xdg-open 
(could be default on Linux)...


you can try to set it in the cnf:

 -- ["pdfview.method"]   = "sumatra",


* What’s wrong with --showdirectives?


i'll fix the show variant, just use --directives

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[NTG-context] context --autopdf and --showdirectives

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

I’d like to configure the default behaviour of "context --autopdf"; 
since on my Mac I must always write "--autopdf=auto", otherwise context 
tries to call


wine "sumatrapdf.exe" -reuse-instance -bg-color 0xCC

instead of e.g. "open".

There’s a hint about "directives_pdfview_method", so I wanted to find 
out more about directives:

"context --showdirectives" looks promising;
it tells me "result saved in file: 
.../texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/mtx-context-setters.pdf", but 
that file isn’t there; it is actually in the current directory, but broken.


* How can I configure the command for --autopdf ? (Something in 
texmfcnf.lua?)


* Can we add additional options ("pdfview methods: auto default okular 
pdfxcview sumatra"), e.g. open (should be default on Mac), xdg-open 
(could be default on Linux)...


* What’s wrong with --showdirectives?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 10/10/2022 3:04 PM, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:
While waiting for Mojca's attempts, for the moment I solved it by simply 
copying the folder of the old Mac in which I had installed the 
Standalone to the Mac M2.

I have slightly modified the TeXShop scripts and everything works.

The log tells me:

This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)

Compiling with LMTX, i read:

ConTeXt  ver:  2022.09.11 20:44 LMTX

And compiling with MkIV (of the TeX Live 2022):

This is LuaTeX, Version 1.15.0 (TeX live 2022)


in a setup where lmtx is leading mtxrun/context will use luametatex as 
runner and that one should recognize os/platform better


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context]

Hello Mojca:

uname -a

Darwin MacBook-Air-di-Tommaso.local 21.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.6.0:
Mon Aug 22 20:20:07 PDT 2022; root:xnu-8020.140.49~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8110
arm64


uname-m

arm64

Tommaso



Il giorno lun 10 ott 2022 alle ore 08:49 Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 09:24, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> > Hello list,
> >
> > I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey
> and Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV
> folder (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex
> tree is created, but its folders are empty).
> > I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel
> processor).
> >
> > Do you know if it is a known problem?
>
> It should work, at least in theory. I'll check later today on our M1
> machine.
> If that doesn't work, it should be some trivial problem (that should
> be straightforward to fix).
> If that works, it could be that "uname" reports something different
> than "arm64" on M2. That should hopefully be easy to fix as well.
>
> What does "uname -m" (and "uname -a") report on your mac?
>
> Mojca
>

Il giorno lun 10 ott 2022 alle ore 08:49 Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 09:24, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> > Hello list,
> >
> > I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey
> and Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV
> folder (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex
> tree is created, but its folders are empty).
> > I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel
> processor).
> >
> > Do you know if it is a known problem?
>
> It should work, at least in theory. I'll check later today on our M1
> machine.
> If that doesn't work, it should be some trivial problem (that should
> be straightforward to fix).
> If that works, it could be that "uname" reports something different
> than "arm64" on M2. That should hopefully be easy to fix as well.
>
> What does "uname -m" (and "uname -a") report on your mac?
>
> Mojca
>
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context]

While waiting for Mojca's attempts, for the moment I solved it by simply
copying the folder of the old Mac in which I had installed the Standalone
to the Mac M2.
I have slightly modified the TeXShop scripts and everything works.

The log tells me:

This is LuaTeX, Version 1.13.0 (TeX Live 2021)

Compiling with LMTX, i read:

ConTeXt  ver:  2022.09.11 20:44 LMTX

And compiling with MkIV (of the TeX Live 2022):

This is LuaTeX, Version 1.15.0 (TeX live 2022)

Tommaso

Il giorno dom 9 ott 2022 alle ore 09:23 Tommaso Gordini <
illinguista1...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hello list,
>
> I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey
> and Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV
> folder (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex
> tree is created, but its folders are empty).
> I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel
> processor).
>
> Do you know if it is a known problem?
>
> These are the commands I used (taken from the wiki):
>
> rsync -av rsync: //contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
> sh ./first-setup.sh --modules = all --fonts = all --goodies = all
> --context = latest --engine = luatex
>
> Where am I wrong?
>
> LMTX installation, on the other hand, should be successful (the folder
> weighs 297.8 MB, as much as the Standalone one should weigh).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Tommaso
>
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:48, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 09:24, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey and 
> > Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV folder 
> > (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex tree is 
> > created, but its folders are empty).
> > I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel processor).
> >
> > Do you know if it is a known problem?
>
> It should work, at least in theory. I'll check later today on our M1 machine.

It looks like mtx-update.lua doesn't properly recognise the platform.
This is something that Hans needs to fix inside the context sources.
(I'll try to patch it later, maybe I have some success.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 09:24, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey and 
> Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV folder 
> (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex tree is 
> created, but its folders are empty).
> I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel processor).
>
> Do you know if it is a known problem?

It should work, at least in theory. I'll check later today on our M1 machine.
If that doesn't work, it should be some trivial problem (that should
be straightforward to fix).
If that works, it could be that "uname" reports something different
than "arm64" on M2. That should hopefully be easy to fix as well.

What does "uname -m" (and "uname -a") report on your mac?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Max Chernoff via ntg-context]

Hi Tommaso,

> I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey and
> Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV folder
> (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex tree is
> created, but its folders are empty).
> I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel processor).
> 
> Do you know if it is a known problem?
> 
> These are the commands I used (taken from the wiki):
> 
> rsync -av rsync: //contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
> sh ./first-setup.sh --modules = all --fonts = all --goodies = all --context
> = latest --engine = luatex
> 
> Where am I wrong?

I think that MkIV has been frozen since before macOS ARM was released,
so I wouldn't be surprised if an ARM version just doesn't exist.

I've never used macOS, but if this worked on your Intel Mac, then you
can try running the installer via Rosetta instead of running it
directly. TeX is so fast that the Rosetta emulation will have fairly
little overhead.


> LMTX installation, on the other hand, should be successful (the folder
> weighs 297.8 MB, as much as the Standalone one should weigh).

You can still use MkIV with the LMTX installation. Just run 

   context --luatex document.tex
   
instead of the usual

   context document.tex
   
TeX Live also supports macOS ARM and includes MkIV if you want another
installation option.

Thanks,
-- Max
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context]

Hello list,

I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey and
Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV folder
(where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex tree is
created, but its folders are empty).
I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel processor).

Do you know if it is a known problem?

These are the commands I used (taken from the wiki):

rsync -av rsync: //contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
sh ./first-setup.sh --modules = all --fonts = all --goodies = all --context
= latest --engine = luatex

Where am I wrong?

LMTX installation, on the other hand, should be successful (the folder
weighs 297.8 MB, as much as the Standalone one should weigh).

Thanks in advance.
Tommaso
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt news in the Fediverse

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

At the meeting we talked about raising visibility for ConTeXt and the 
context group.


I created a Mastodon account for context group and will use it to share 
news and interesting stuff related to ConTeXt:

https://fosstodon.org/@context (i.e. @cont...@fosstodon.org)

Never heard about Mastodon?
It’s an alternative to company-owned microblogging services like Twitter 
and an important part of the Fediverse, where you can interact with 
other federated (decentral) services like Friendica, PeerTube, FunkWhale 
etc. You can use it with a bunch of different apps (e.g. Tusky) or via 
web interfaces. In that, it’s similar to Email: You choose a server of 
your liking and can subscribe to and communicate with users on other 
servers, while most of them have some focus (e.g. regional, political, 
interests).

See also e.g. https://joinmastodon.org

Please tell me if you post something somewhere that I could toot (share; 
Mastodons don’t tweet).


Hraban
(@fiee@literatur.social)
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting and the annotated cow

[Alan via ntg-context]

On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 10:13:34 +0200
Axel Kielhorn via ntg-context  wrote:

> There are still some further ideas and a lot to learn for me:
> - multi line annotations
> - a transparent white background
> - a frame around the text

Just use
"\framed[background=color,backgroundcolor=transparentwhite,align=normal]{text...}"

where transparentwhite is your (ConTeXt) defined color.

Alan
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting and the annotated cow

[Axel Kielhorn via ntg-context]

Hello,

last week I learned something about MetaPost at the context meeting.
Thanks Taco!

First a little background:

I write a lot of documentation and sometimes I need to include a picture with 
annotations.
Until now I used a drawing program to add text and arrows.
This has one disadvantage, these annotations are not translated.
I have to prepare a set of pictures for every language.

Well, that changed last week.
Here is my first try (actually the 4th iteration):

%%%
\setupexternalfigures[location=default]
\starttext

\startMPinclusions
%draft := 0;
draft := 1;

color mycolor;

if draft = 1 :
mycolor := red ;
else:
mycolor := .4white ;
fi ;

% Draw a grid to count locations

def gridscaled =
pair ur;
ur = urcorner currentpicture;

width :=  xpart ur;
height := ypart ur;

xstep := ceiling(width / 10);
ystep := ceiling(height / 10);

if draft = 1:
counter := 1;
for i = xstep step xstep until width :
draw (i, 0 ) -- (i, height);
label.rt(counter, (i , 0.5 cm));
counter := counter + 1 ;
endfor;

counter := 1;
for i = ystep step ystep until height :
draw (0, i) -- (width, i);
label.top(counter, (0.5 cm, i ));
counter := counter + 1 ;
endfor;
fi;
enddef;
% Bottom: The annotation is at the bottom of the start point
  
def annotb (expr a,  b, c, d) (text t) =
label.bot (t, (a * xstep,  b * ystep));
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .8mm withcolor white;
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .5mm withcolor mycolor;
enddef ;
% Top: The annotation is on top of the start point  
def annott (expr a,  b, c, d) (text t) =
label.top (t, (a * xstep,  b * ystep));
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .8mm withcolor white;
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .5mm withcolor mycolor;
enddef ;
% Right: The annotation is on the right of the start point  

def annotr (expr a,  b, c, d) (text t) =
label.rt (t, (a * xstep,  b * ystep));
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .8mm withcolor white;
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .5mm withcolor mycolor;
enddef ;
% Left: The annotation is on the left of the start point
  
def annotl (expr a,  b, c, d) (text t) =
label.lft (t, (a * xstep,  b * ystep));
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .8mm withcolor white;
drawarrow (a * xstep, b * ystep) -- ( c * xstep, d * ystep)
withpen pencircle scaled .5mm withcolor mycolor;
enddef ;
\stopMPinclusions

\startMPpage
% Picture
draw externalfigure "cow.pdf" xsized 16cm;
% Grid
gridscaled;
% Text
annotb (1, 5, .8, 7.3, "Maul");
annotb (6, 2, 7, 3.2, "Euter");
annott (9.2, 9.5, 9.6, 3, "Schwanz");
annotb (3, -.5, 3.1, .9, "Huf");
annotb (3, -.5, 3.9, 1.1, "");

\stopMPpage

\startMPpage
% Picture
draw externalfigure "cow.pdf" xsized 10cm;
% Grid
gridscaled;
% Text
annotb (1, 5, .8, 7.3, "Maul");
annotb (6, 2, 7, 3.2, "Euter");
annott (9.2, 9.5, 9.6, 3, "Schwanz");
annotb (3, -.5, 3.1, .9, "Huf");
annotb (3, -.5, 3.9, 1.1, "");

\stopMPpage

\stoptext

%%%

There are still some further ideas and a lot to learn for me:
- multi line annotations
- a transparent white background
- a frame around the text
- a link to the section where the part is explained 
- moving to one command with the orientation as an argument

Comments and improvements are welcome.

Greetings
Axel
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2023

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

The next meeting will take place on 2023-09-11 to 16, again in Sibřina 
near Prague. Save the date!


In the hope of seeing you there,
Hraban

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Mark IV mtxrun: If selfautoloc is /usr/bin and selfautodir is /usr, selfautoparent becomes "." instead of "/".

[amano.kenji via ntg-context]

I think it's a bug.
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Workshop at FrOSCon

[juh via ntg-context]

Dear all,

my workshop is over and it was quite nice. There were five people that
attended the whole workshop and two that looked into it and left after
some minutes.

I had their attention from the beginning, after I showed them the flyers
I made for my cooperative.
https://www.hasecke.eu/post/werbemittel-mit-context-gestalten/
I guess that this is what people expect from ConTeXt: individually
styled products. 

The workshop was two hours long so that I could only show the very first
steps. One interesting thing is that one person never worked with TeX
or LaTeX before. The others had experience with LaTeX of course. Is this an
indication that ConTeXt can attract people that never worked with TeX
before?

There is one thing that is quite error prone for beginners, a small detail
during the installation process. 

Everyone worked on Linux and was able to use the command line but
nonetheless two of five had problems to correctly set the PATH variable.

So I have one question.
Is it possible or reasonable to extend the install script so that it
adds the new path directly to .bashrc? Or at least to ask the user if
the script should do this? 

Now we have to do theses steps:

sh .install.sh
copy the line with the path
vim .bashrc
insert the line, save and exit vim
source .bashrc

I can think of arguments against the idea of an installation script that
set the variable automatically.  One thing is that not everyone uses
bash, many use zsh. As I use both shells I set many environment
variables in a custom file called .exportrc. So for me personally the
extension of the script would be of no advantage. But maybe it can 
ease the way of beginners.

Thanks a lot to Hraban and to Joaquín. The "introduction" and Hrabans
manuscript helped me to outline the things I wanted to show.

juh
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 04.08.22 um 14:32 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:

On 8/4/2022 10:22 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:

* The flight would take 14 hours each way (biggest reason)
* The flight would cost more than 2 months of rent


Understandable – I won’t ever fly overseas for a conference.


* It would be a bad idea for me to miss a full week of classes
last year we experimented with some remote attendents but also decided 
that we would only mix that wilt a real meeting with a threshold 
attendance ... personally i will not sit behind a screen and present 
something staring in a camera .. it simply works better with real people 
there ... i don't know what is planned for this year wrt remote


We will do the same as last year, use BigBlueButton for sharing the 
presentation and camera & microphone for the presenter, sometimes an 
additional camera for the room or showing stuff. (No recording, no 
general room camera.)

Someone will watch the chat and relay questions.
We’ll project remote presenters to the screen and use speakers.
Discussion between local and remote participants is always a bit 
difficult, we’ll try again with microphones.


But, also like last year, we have only a household DSL connection. That 
doesn’t limit remote participants, but the locals should not use the 
system as well. I also can’t guarantee that everthings works – last year 
we had big problems with the local DHCP/router.


Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 8/4/2022 10:22 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:


Hi Hraban,


but I’d like to know why you (esp. if you attended
previous meetings) decided not to come:


A not-useful answer:

* The flight would take 14 hours each way (biggest reason)
  
* The flight would cost more than 2 months of rent


* It would be a bad idea for me to miss a full week of classes
last year we experimented with some remote attendents but also decided 
that we would only mix that wilt a real meeting with a threshold 
attendance ... personally i will not sit behind a screen and present 
something staring in a camera .. it simply works better with real people 
there ... i don't know what is planned for this year wrt remote


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 8/4/2022 8:48 AM, juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context wrote:

1. I wasn't sure if I can follow the programe. Though I am not a bloody 
beginner, I am still at the basis of the learning curve. Many talks 
seems to be way above my understanding. (The same is true for the 
monthly video meetings.) But I am very interested in learning – I can 
even imagine that my cooperative would pay for it.


There's often plenty in-between time for more personal discussion and 
help. The be together in the room evening sessions are also a good 
oportunity.


And ... from my end I put things on the program that are new or under 
development but when someone asks for a topic ... also, just present 
something and those present will kick in.


Currently the first real life meetings starts again and I have to 
confess that it is not so easy to switch mentally to the pre-corona 
area. My cooperative will be present at the Bitsäume conference in 
Berlin and we are struggling to organize this. This sounds silly but all 
the processes of planning such an event must be restarted.


Yes, one needs to get in the mood again. But last years meetings 
nevertheless went on and were quite nice (they are also anchors in 
development for me). And it helps to mee users (those we've seen in 
person have some advantages later on I guess).


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[Max Chernoff via ntg-context]

Hi Hraban,

> but I’d like to know why you (esp. if you attended 
> previous meetings) decided not to come:

A not-useful answer:

* The flight would take 14 hours each way (biggest reason)
 
* The flight would cost more than 2 months of rent

* It would be a bad idea for me to miss a full week of classes

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Hi JUH!

Am 04.08.22 um 08:48 schrieb juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context:

Am 03.08.22 um 10:50 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context:
Taco convinced me not to cancel the meeting due to a lack of 
participants, but I’d like to know why you (esp. if you attended 
previous meetings) decided not to come:


short answer. The meeting is in the holidays of my wife and she expects 
me to join her in a travel. ;-)


Well, the date seems to be untimely for several potential participants.
But we decided on it about two years ago (you must book houses at least 
one year in advance; maybe no more). But other dates deter other people...



(In fact I don't found information about accommodations on the website)


On https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2022/location.shtml there’s a link 
to the venue’s website and the hint that we only single-book the bunk 
beds – i.e. it’s youth hostel style.


1. I wasn't sure if I can follow the programe. Though I am not a bloody 
beginner, I am still at the basis of the learning curve. Many talks 
seems to be way above my understanding. (The same is true for the 
monthly video meetings.) But I am very interested in learning – I can 
even imagine that my cooperative would pay for it.


Well, if no beginners attend, nobody will talk for beginners.

Yes, it’s often way over my head, esp. what Hans and Taco explain, but 
after the third time I start to understand ;)
It’s like when I started reading challenging computer magazines like c’t 
in the public library as a 12yo and didn’t understand a lot but found it 
cool enough to continue. YMMV


OTOH we always had talks about not-so-advanced projects, and what you 
did with ConTeXt for Hostsharing would be worth a talk or three. (Just 
repeat your blog entries.) You’d be welcome also as a remote presenter.


2. I always like to combine meetings with my passion to dance Tango. If 
a meeting is in a bigger city, chances are high that I could spend a 
couple of evenings in a local milonga. From Dreifelden to any milonga in 
NRW or Hessen I would need at least an hour by car.


Sorry...


Corona isn't over ...


Yes, of course. I worry about that, too; can’t afford to be sick for a 
week or more...


On the other hand I would really like to get into ConTeXt as I am 
convinced that it is the thing I need for my personal work and my work 
in my cooperative. So I would still like to attend a meeting.


Well, you can start with the next online meetup in a week (August 10th).

While we often had in-depth discussions with Hans, or between Hans and 
Mikael, that was partly due to a lack of simpler questions.
And since we usually were only a few guys, there’s enough space for your 
personal project.



What are the things I am interested in most?

I would like to take an intensive training.


Aside from the core functions I would like to learn more about 
integrations as this is what we are trying to do at Hostsharing at the 
moment. This could cover small things like automated business graphics 
with different tools to printing from TEI-XML to setup a single source 
publishing chain with Pandoc. The problems are in the details. ;-)


Yes, probably in the details manual ;-P
No, not this time. But bring them up in the online meetup.


Another topic:

If we want to promote ConTeXt it would be nice to have small meetings on 
bigger meetings like FOSDEM in Belgium or FrOSCon in Germany. (I was so 
bold to propose a workshop at FrOSCon and alas it was accepted!) At 
FrOSCon and FOSDEM you can get a developer room to make your own 
programe. That would be a good place for introductory workshops.


I agree, but it’s also a matter of people, timing and other resources.
I would have joined you at FrOSCon, but was occupied. And many other 
interesting conferences I can’t afford – financially and nervally.


AFAIK other active ConTeXt users were focused on TeX conferences (and I 
don’t know who contributed talks on ConTeXt subjects besides Hans and 
Taco), and in every discussion about “promoting ConTeXt” we come to the 
conclusion that it’s not really worth the effort – like “if it’s for 
you, then you will find it”. And we want to keep our playground cosy ;)


Some of us made the experience that they couldn’t pierce through the 
prejudices of old LaTeX folks.
And well, let’s face it, the state of our documentation is still not 
very inviting. There’s a lot of it, but it’s often hard to find what you 
need, even for me, who’s not afraid of sourcecode, and ConTeXt changed a 
lot over the years.
(Yes, my book is coming along... But I’m not sure how good it solves 
beginners’ problems. And it’s only in German, of course.)



I hope that this is of some value for you.


Thank you!

Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[juh+ntg-context--- via ntg-context]

Dear Hraban,

Am 03.08.22 um 10:50 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context:
Taco convinced me not to cancel the meeting due to a lack of 
participants, but I’d like to know why you (esp. if you attended 
previous meetings) decided not to come:


short answer. The meeting is in the holidays of my wife and she expects 
me to join her in a travel. ;-)


The long answer.

During the pandemic I stopped planning more than one month ahead. So the 
above mentioned travel isn't booked yet. For this reason I miss the 
early birds and maybe the booking of special things like a private room. 
(In fact I don't found information about accommodations on the website)


Before Corona I wanted to attend a meeting but didn't do it for two reasons.

1. I wasn't sure if I can follow the programe. Though I am not a bloody 
beginner, I am still at the basis of the learning curve. Many talks 
seems to be way above my understanding. (The same is true for the 
monthly video meetings.) But I am very interested in learning – I can 
even imagine that my cooperative would pay for it.


2. I always like to combine meetings with my passion to dance Tango. If 
a meeting is in a bigger city, chances are high that I could spend a 
couple of evenings in a local milonga. From Dreifelden to any milonga in 
NRW or Hessen I would need at least an hour by car.



In this year there are some things that might affect others as well.

Currently the first real life meetings starts again and I have to 
confess that it is not so easy to switch mentally to the pre-corona 
area. My cooperative will be present at the Bitsäume conference in 
Berlin and we are struggling to organize this. This sounds silly but all 
the processes of planning such an event must be restarted.


Corona isn't over and even boostered people have to lay down for at 
least one week and to stay away from work another one to recover from 
covid. So for that reason I am still very cautious – and I expect to 
take over more tasks at work when colleagues got ill from one day to 
another. So it is not a good time too stay away for one week to attend a 
meeting.



On the other hand I would really like to get into ConTeXt as I am 
convinced that it is the thing I need for my personal work and my work 
in my cooperative. So I would still like to attend a meeting.


What are the things I am interested in most?

I would like to take an intensive training.

Aside from the core functions I would like to learn more about 
integrations as this is what we are trying to do at Hostsharing at the 
moment. This could cover small things like automated business graphics 
with different tools to printing from TEI-XML to setup a single source 
publishing chain with Pandoc. The problems are in the details. ;-)




Another topic:

If we want to promote ConTeXt it would be nice to have small meetings on 
bigger meetings like FOSDEM in Belgium or FrOSCon in Germany. (I was so 
bold to propose a workshop at FrOSCon and alas it was accepted!) At 
FrOSCon and FOSDEM you can get a developer room to make your own 
programe. That would be a good place for introductory workshops.




I hope that this is of some value for you.

Thank you very much for organizing the meeting in these challenging times.

juh
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 31.07.22 um 16:02 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context:

Hi folks & friends,

I’d like to remind you to register for the current ConTeXt meeting 
(September 12–18 in Germany), we must close registration in about two 
weeks, and my list is still rather short.


https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2022/

If you registered early and got only an error message from the form, 
please register again.
And please don’t think you could avoid a registration because everyone 
knows you’ll come (except Hans).


Otherwise it’s normal that you got no response from me (sorry!).

We have no Covid restrictions in Germany any more, even if the 
incidences are high, except that you must wear a mask in trains and are 
asked to in some other places. I’d ask you to test yourself before 
traveling.


It would be nice if you would register also for online attendance, just 
for my information. Since the regular online meetup would be during the 
conference, we will drop that.


Looking forward to seeing you soon,
Hraban


Hi again,

Taco convinced me not to cancel the meeting due to a lack of 
participants, but I’d like to know why you (esp. if you attended 
previous meetings) decided not to come:

* personal reasons (family etc.)
* health (Covid, pox...)
* financial (too expensive?)
* ecological (avoid traveling)
* time (bad date?)
* place (too far? not comfortable enough?)

This might also affect upcoming meetings (2023 in Sibřina in September 
again, 2024 maybe earlier in Italy).


One person told me they wouldn’t attend conferences without mandatory 
face masks. (While it makes sense to wear a mask, I don’t think it does 
if you spend a week with the same people.)


Hraban
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2022 – please register!

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Hi folks & friends,

I’d like to remind you to register for the current ConTeXt meeting 
(September 12–18 in Germany), we must close registration in about two 
weeks, and my list is still rather short.


https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2022/

If you registered early and got only an error message from the form, 
please register again.
And please don’t think you could avoid a registration because everyone 
knows you’ll come (except Hans).


Otherwise it’s normal that you got no response from me (sorry!).

We have no Covid restrictions in Germany any more, even if the 
incidences are high, except that you must wear a mask in trains and are 
asked to in some other places. I’d ask you to test yourself before 
traveling.


It would be nice if you would register also for online attendance, just 
for my information. Since the regular online meetup would be during the 
conference, we will drop that.


Looking forward to seeing you soon,
Hraban

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting: register now!

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Hi everyone,

the early bird period for meeting registration went by mostly unnoticed, 
and I simply forgot to remind everyone to register.


So we’ll extend “early bird” to end of this week, i.e. 10th of July.

https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2022/

If you tried to register while the form didn’t work (around 1st of 
June), please try again.



Also, I need to finish the CG journal ASAP – please hand in your 
articles (of last year’s talks or anything new) now!



Looking forward to meeting you in Dreifelden!
Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] Context path resolving, Problem with MkIV and TeXLive

[Jan Mikkelsen via ntg-context]

Hi,

I had/have a very similar problem on FreeBSD with TeXLive 2021, with the same 
context.lua not found message.

I “resolved” it by setting TEXMF to point to my texmf-dist directory, in my 
case /usr/local/share/texmf-dist. It would be nice for it to work without 
setting TEXMF.

Without setting TEXMF, running "mtxrun —generate” guesses a little differently, 
then attempts to scan all of /usr, and then fails when parts have no read 
permission. (See log at the end of this message.)

I suspect it is working when you are in /usr/share/texmf-dist because the 
“collapsepath” function in mtxrun is collapsing “/../..” from /usr/bin to “.” 
instead of “/“. (Which seems like a bug, but I’m not sure.)

If I run “TEXMF=/usr/local/share/texmf-dist context file.tex” things run 
correctly, and a ~/.texlive2021 directory is created. Running 
“TEXMF=/usr/local/shared/texmf-dist mtxrun —generate” runs without error but 
also doesn’t generate a ~/.texlive2021 directory.

The real problem seems to be that mtxrun doesn’t deal well with the filesystem 
layout case of “/top-level/bin/mtxrun” and “/top-level/share/texmf-dist”.

Regards,

Jan M.


resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/local/bin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr/local'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/usr'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'local'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | using configuration specification 
'home:texmf/web2c;{selfautoloc:,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c,/var/db/tlpkg,selfautodir:,selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf/web2c,$SELFAUTOGRANDPARENT/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c}'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/home/janm/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path 
'/usr/local/bin' from specification 'selfautoloc:'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/bin/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/bin/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/bin/share/texmf/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/bin/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/bin/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/bin/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path 
'/var/db/tlpkg' from specification '/var/db/tlpkg'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird path 
'/usr/local' from specification 'selfautodir:'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 
'selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 
'selfautodir:/share/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | found regular configuration file 
'/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/share/texmf/web2c' from specification 
'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 
'selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 'selfautodir:/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
'/usr/local/texmf/web2c' from specification 

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2023(!)

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 19.05.22 um 00:22 schrieb br...@scorecrow.com:




On 17 May 2022, at 07:49, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
 wrote:

Would that make a difference for you?


Seven days is a big time commitment, unless you are a major user of ConTeXt. Is there a possibility 
to split it up into "professional" during the week and "hobbyist" over the 
weekend so people could come for just the weekend, or the whole week?


For most of us it *is* a hobby and the meeting kind of holidays.

IMO meeting over the whole week is a big part of the appeal, otherwise 
we couldn’t fit all the interesting stuff into the schedule and the 
personal interaction also would fall short.


I remember we had a similar split when we combined with EuroTeX. I was 
new to the community at that time, and I found the sudden influx of 
people over the weekend very confusing. YMMV


It was always possible to register and come for just some days.
We discourage it, since it disturbs the community experience, pickup is 
additional effort, and we often must pay the venue for the whole week 
(it depends).


In 2022 the weekend would mean: maybe a talk or two on Friday, CG 
members meeting on Saturday morning, excursion for the rest of the day 
and nothing but departure on Sunday. In other years we met e.g. from 
Sunday to Saturday, and on the first day we are busy arriving and 
setting up.



BTW it looks like Jano will host us in Sibřina again in September of 
2023. And we’re discussing “uncharted territory” for 2024.



Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2023(!)

[Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context]

> On 17 May 2022, at 07:49, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Would that make a difference for you?

Seven days is a big time commitment, unless you are a major user of ConTeXt. Is 
there a possibility to split it up into "professional" during the week and 
"hobbyist" over the weekend so people could come for just the weekend, or the 
whole week?

—
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Hampshire, UK
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2023(!)

[Damien Thiriet via ntg-context]

Hi,


Being a teacher, I would indeed prefer a meeting during holidays,
that would give me a chance to attend sometimes, and meeting locations
are often mid-way between France and Poland… 

Greetings,

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting 2023(!)

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Hi y’all,

at the latest online meeting as well as within the CG board, we were 
discussing the ConTeXt meeting in 2023, since nothing is planned yet.


[date]

The usual fall date makes it difficult for students and teachers to attend.

We were discussing a date in August (or even July). Would that make a 
difference for you? What would you prefer?


One argument against a date within the summer holidays is that many 
venues are booked for years in advance, but we got at least one offer 
(see below).


[place]

While we were due to go to Eastern Europe again, it looks like Jano as 
well as Mojca are too busy to organize a meeting. (And I’m very sorry if 
I misunderstood!)


Please stand up whoever would like to organize next year’s meeting!

Otherwise I might invite you to Maibach again (where we were in 2017), 
they told me they still have open slots in summer.



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[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

The sixteenth ConTeXt meeting will take place in Dreifelden, Germany on

September 12–18, 2022

You are cordially invited to join the 16th ConTeXt meeting. The meeting 
will host ConTeXt and Lua(Meta)TeX developers and users and gives you 
the opportunity to present your results, experiences and ideas on future 
development. The talks will be followed-up by tutorials on different 
ConTeXt and Lua(Meta)TeX techniques.


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[NTG-context] Context path resolving, Problem with MkIV and TeXLive

[Gerion Entrup via ntg-context]

Hi,

I'm having a problem with TeXLive 2021 in conjunction with MkIV.
Basically, executing context results in:

% context
mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua

I researched this and found that probably there is a path problem.
LaTeX seems to be using kpathsea and /etc/texmf.cnf while context uses
texmfcnf.lua.

Looking into this file, it defines nearly all paths relative to "home:"
or "selfautoparent:". Home is self explaining. I have no clue what
selfautoparent is and also did not find an explanation in the internet.

Anyway, selfautoparent seems not to be resolved correctly. I figured
this by running `mtxrun --variables`. Here is a little excerpt:

resolvers   | lists | TEXMF
resolvers   | lists |   env: 
{$TEXMFCONFIG,$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFSYSCONFIG,!!$TEXMFSYSVAR,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFDIST}
resolvers   | lists |   var: TEXMF
resolvers   | lists |   exp: 
{home:.texlive2020/texmf-config,home:texmf,!!selfautoparent:texmf-config,!!selfautoparent:texmf-var,!!selfautoparent:texmf-project,!!selfautoparent:texmf-fonts,!!.,!!selfautoparent:texmf-dist}
resolvers   | lists |   res: 
{/home/gerion/.texlive2020/texmf-config,/home/gerion/texmf,!!./texmf-config,!!./texmf-var,!!./texmf-project,!!./texmf-fonts,!!.,!!./texmf-dist}
...
resolvers   | lists | TEXMFSYSVAR
resolvers   | lists |   env: selfautoparent:texmf-var
resolvers   | lists |   var: TEXMFSYSVAR
resolvers   | lists |   exp: selfautoparent:texmf-var
resolvers   | lists |   res: ./texmf-var
resolvers   | lists | TEXMFVAR
resolvers   | lists |   env: unset
resolvers   | lists |   var: TEXMFVAR
resolvers   | lists |   exp: home:.texlive2020/texmf-var
resolvers   | lists |   res: /home/gerion/.texlive2020/texmf-var

"home:" seems to be resolved correctly to "/home/gerion". "selfautoparent"
seems to be resolved to "." (the current directory?).
My context (and TeXLive) installation is in /usr/share/texmf-dist.
So running mtxrun --generate in exactly this directory and running
context after that works:

% mtxrun --generate
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'usr'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | using configuration specification 
'home:texmf/web2c;{selfautoloc:,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:,selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf/web2c,$SELFAUTOGRANDPARENT/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c}'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
given path '/home/gerion/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
weird path '/usr/bin' from specification 'selfautoloc:'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
given path '/usr/bin/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
given path '/usr/bin/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
given path '/usr/bin/share/texmf/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
given path '/usr/bin/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
given path '/usr/bin/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification 
'selfautoloc:/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
given path '/usr/bin/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on 
weird path '/usr' from specification 'selfautodir:'

Re: [NTG-context] context module t-account in LMTX

[Heinrich Paeßens via ntg-context]

charming 藍

now I have a digital t-accounts stencil 


… and can write some review of Lombard Street 
 or else.

thanks
Heinrich 


> On 28. Apr 2022, at 17:10, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Heinrich Paeßens schrieb am 28.04.2022 um 16:39:
>> Many thanks Wolfgang, 
>> 
>> I can see the 'values' in a table like form, nothing but the values — how 
>> can I switch on the 'lines' of the table?
> 
> You can either add
> 
> \setuptaccount[mp=taccount:line]
> 
> or
> 
> \setuptaccount[mp=taccount:nose]
> 
> before the table.
> 
> Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] context module t-account in LMTX

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Heinrich Paeßens schrieb am 28.04.2022 um 16:39:

Many thanks Wolfgang,

I can see the 'values' in a table like form, nothing but the values — 
how can I switch on the 'lines' of the table?


You can either add

    \setuptaccount[mp=taccount:line]

or

    \setuptaccount[mp=taccount:nose]

before the table.

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Re: [NTG-context] context module t-account in LMTX

[Heinrich Paeßens via ntg-context]

Many thanks Wolfgang, I can see the 'values' in a table like form, nothing but the values — how can I switch on the 'lines' of the table?Best regards, HeinrichI took your file t-taccount.mkxland——% !TEX program = lmtx\usemodule[t][taccount]\startTEXpage[offset=5pt]\starttaccount[title=Bilanz,lefttext=Aktiva,righttext=Passiva]    \startdebits        \debit{Gebäude}  {1.800}        \debit{Maschinen}{1.200}        \debit{Fuhrpark}   {500}        \debit{Rohstoffe}  {100}        \debittotal      {3.600}    \stopdebits    \startcredits        \credit{Eigenkapital}{1.400}        \credit{Schulden}    {2.200}        \credittotal         {3.600}    \stopcredits\stoptaccount\stopTEXpage——

tst-taccount.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
the log——resolvers       | formats | executing runner 'run luametatex format': /Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luametatex --jobname="./tst-taccount.tex" --fmt=/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.fmt --lua=/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.lui  --c:autopdf --c:currentrun=1 --c:directives="system.showerror" --c:fulljobname="./tst-taccount.tex" --c:input="./tst-taccount.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 --c:purgeall --c:texmfbinpath="/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin"system          > system          > ConTeXt  ver: 2022.04.15 20:20 LMTX  fmt: 2022.4.17  int: english/englishsystem          > system          > 'cont-new.mkxl' loadedopen source     > level 1, order 1, name '/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'system          > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkivclose source    > level 1, order 1, name '/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'system          > files > jobname './tst-taccount', input './tst-taccount.tex', result './tst-taccount'fonts           > latin modern fonts are not preloadedlanguages       > language 'en' is activeopen source     > level 1, order 2, name './tst-taccount.tex'modules         > 'taccount' is loadedopen source     > level 2, order 3, name 't-taccount.mkxl'loading         > Context User Module / Miscellaneousclose source    > level 2, order 3, name 't-taccount.mkxl'system          > auto \starttext ... \stoptextfonts           > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)fonts           > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loadedbackend         > xmp > using file '/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lpdf-pdx.xml'pages           > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1close source    > level 1, order 3, name './tst-taccount.tex'mkiv lua stats  > used config file: selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.luamkiv lua stats  > used cache path: /Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32emkiv lua stats  > resource resolver: loadtime 0.010 seconds, 0 scans with scantime 0.000 seconds, 0 shared scans, 10 found files, scanned paths: mkiv lua stats  > stored bytecode data: 504 modules (0.406 sec), 98 tables (0.020 sec), 602 chunks (0.426 sec)mkiv lua stats  > traced context: maxstack: 1627, freed: 0, unreachable: 1627mkiv lua stats  > cleaned up reserved nodes: 72 nodes, 11 lists of 439mkiv lua stats  > node memory usage: 15 attribute, 3 glue, 67 gluespec, 3 kern, 582 mathspec, 4 penalty, 2 tempmkiv lua stats  > node list callback tasks: 12 unique task lists, 9 instances (re)created, 59 callsmkiv lua stats  > used backend: pdfmkiv lua stats  > jobdata time: 0.002 seconds saving, 0.000 seconds loadingmkiv lua stats  > callbacks: file: 390, saved: 270, direct: 2, function: 1102, value: 2, message: 0, bytecode: 602, late 0, total: 2368 (0 per page)mkiv lua stats  > randomizer: initialized with value 0.56777543833852mkiv lua stats  > loaded tex modules: 1 requested, all found (t-taccount)mkiv lua stats  > loaded patterns: en::1, load time: 0.000mkiv lua stats  > loaded fonts: 2 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman12-regular.otfmkiv lua stats  > font engine: otf 3.120, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 7 instances, 3 shared in backend, 3 common vectors, 0 common hashes, load time 0.237 seconds mkiv lua stats  > font embedding time: 0.004 seconds, 1 fontsmkiv lua stats  > result saved in file: tst-taccount.pdf, compresslevel 1, objectcompresslevel 3mkiv lua stats  > positions: 4 collected, 0 deltas, 0 shared partials, 0 partial entriesmkiv lua stats  > used platform: osx-64, type: unix, binary subtree: texmf-osx-64mkiv lua stats  > used engine: luametatex version: 2.0946, functionality level: 20220405, format id: 647, compiler: clangmkiv lua stats  > tex properties: 740710 hash slots used of 2097152, 47886 control sequences, approximate memory usage: 38 MBmkiv lua stats  > lua properties: engine: lua 5.4, used memory: 56 MB, ctx: 

Re: [NTG-context] context module t-account in LMTX

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Heinrich Paeßens via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2022 um 16:13:

Hi there

I just tried to test the use of the /t-account module/, compiling with 
LMTX, but no avail.


What is wrong? Does the module need a fix for LMTX or is the fault on 
my side (having no experience …)?


The module which can be downloaded from the modules section of the 
context wiki page is no longer supported.


I wrote a new version of the module a few years ago after I got a user 
request but I haven't put the new version on the wiki. To use the new 
version of the module you can download the file from my github site [1] 
and put it in the same folder as your document. There are examples how 
to use the module at the end of the file.


[1] https://github.com/wolfgangschuster/taccount/tree/master/files

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] context module t-account in LMTX

[Heinrich Paeßens via ntg-context]

Hi there

I just tried to test the use of the t-account module, compiling with LMTX, but 
no avail.

What is wrong? Does the module need a fix for LMTX or is the fault on my side 
(having no experience …)?

Many thanks for your support. Kind regards,
Heinrich

the example is in the file 
tst-account.tex

——
% !TEX program = lmtx

\usemodule[t-account]
\environment TACCOUNT

\startDEBITS
\debit [Auto] {2000}
\debit [Bus]  {5000}


\startCREDITS
\credit [Bank] {1000}
\credit [Kasse] {200}
\credit [Kasse] {200}
\stopCREDITS

\stopACCOUNT
——


leads to error shown in the log:
——
resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'run luametatex format': 
/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luametatex 
--jobname="./tst-account.tex" 
--fmt=/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.fmt
 
--lua=/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.lui
  --c:autopdf --c:currentrun=1 --c:directives="system.showerror" 
--c:fulljobname="./tst-account.tex" --c:input="./tst-account.tex" 
--c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 --c:purgeall 
--c:texmfbinpath="/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin"

system  > 
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2022.04.15 20:20 LMTX  fmt: 2022.4.17  int: 
english/english
system  > 
system  > 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded
open source > level 1, order 1, name 
'/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
close source> level 1, order 1, name 
'/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > files > jobname './tst-account', input './tst-account.tex', 
result './tst-account'
fonts   > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages   > language 'en' is active
open source > level 1, order 2, name './tst-account.tex'
modules > using user prefixed file 't-account'
modules > 't-account' is loaded
open source > level 2, order 3, name 
'/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/account/t-account.mkiv'
close source> level 2, order 3, name 
'/Users/hp/Library/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/account/t-account.mkiv'
context report  > file: tst-account-status.html
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1
——

and the -status.html says:
——
Error  Undefined control sequence \startDEBITS
File   ./tst-account.tex
Line   7

 1 % !TEX program = lmtx
 2 \usemodule[t-account]
 3 \environment TACCOUNT
 4 
 5 \startACCOUNT[left=S,middle=Bilanz,right=H]
 6 
 7 >>  \startDEBITS
 8 \debit [Auto] {2000}
 9 \debit [Bus]  {5000}
10 \stopDEBITS
11 
12 \startCREDITS
13 \credit [Bank] {1000}
14 \credit [Kasse] {200}
15 \credit [Kasse] {200}
16 \stopCREDITS
17
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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals -- absence of \definefontfamily

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 1/4/2022 11:07 PM, Arthur Rosendahl wrote:

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 11:16:46PM +0100, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

Because Wolfgang has to write a chapter (or a MyWay document) and we're all
mostly volunteers so ...


   Youssef has got a point, though: \definefontfamily should perhaps be
given a tiny bit better treatment on the wiki.  I agree with him that
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want seems like the
best place to mention it, and even think that all of the last section
could be rewritten using \definefontfamily instead of a typescript
definition (which can be moved elsewhere, it obviously doesn’t need to
be deleted from the wiki entirely).  But I wouldn’t like to disturb the
good work that Garulfo did when he overhauled the wiki, hence if you’re
around, Garulfo, perhaps you could comment on that?

a note:

basically we have 3 ways to define a font (collection):

- selectfont: works find when fonts have 'correct' names and come in 
consistent 'sets' (which is not always the case)


- typescripts: for long term stable style usage this is best because one 
uses filenames and can even rename font files then so that updates don't 
clash (typescripts can be in styles or in separate files)


- single font: for specific usage, like special fonts or titling; 
definition by name or file or spec but probably most oiften by file 
(just to be sure); although one can use abstraction by name this methoid 
is not used for collections


mechanisms like fallbacks work for all but may need additional definitions

design siszes can complicate matters but there are no many

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals -- absence of \definefontfamily

[Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context]

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 11:16:46PM +0100, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> Because Wolfgang has to write a chapter (or a MyWay document) and we're all
> mostly volunteers so ...

  Youssef has got a point, though: \definefontfamily should perhaps be
given a tiny bit better treatment on the wiki.  I agree with him that
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want seems like the
best place to mention it, and even think that all of the last section
could be rewritten using \definefontfamily instead of a typescript
definition (which can be moved elsewhere, it obviously doesn’t need to
be deleted from the wiki entirely).  But I wouldn’t like to disturb the
good work that Garulfo did when he overhauled the wiki, hence if you’re
around, Garulfo, perhaps you could comment on that?

Best,

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals -- absence of \definefontfamily

[Jeong Dal via ntg-context]

Dear Aditya and Youssef Cherem,

To: Aditya,
> 
> There is the talk that Wolfgang gave in this year's context meeting:
> 
> https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2021/talks/2021-09-23/definefontfamily.pdf
> 
Thank you for letting me know the talk which gives me more understanding about 
\definefontfamily.

To: Youssef Cherem,

Recently, Wolfgang helped me to define a font family as following, and I hope 
that it gives you some idea to use \definefontfamily.

\definefallbackfamily [nanum] [rm] [Tex Gyre Pagella]
  [range={basiclatin,latinsupplement,latinextendeda,latinextendedb}, 
   force=yes]
\definefallbackfamily [nanum] [rm] [Noto Serif CJK KR]
  [range={cjkunifiedideographs},force=yes]
\definefontfamily [nanum] [rm] [Nanum Myeongjo OTF]
  [   it={style:regular,features:{*,slanted}},
  bi={style:bold,features:{*,slanted}},force=yes]

Explanation:
1. I use Korean font whose family name is “Nanum Myeongjo OTF” as main font. 
Since it doesn’t have italic style and bold italic style, I add [it=… , bi=…] 
to simulate the styles.

2. Since I want to use English character in "TeX Gyre Pagella”. I add it in the 
first \definefallbackfamily with an option [range={…},force=yes] which restrict 
the use of font to Latin characters.

3. We use chinese characters also in the Korean sentences. But "Nanum Myeongjo 
OTF” doesn’t have Chinese characters. So I add another font “Noto Serif CJK KR” 
which contains Chinese character with the option 
[range={cjkunified…},force=yes] in the second \definefallbackfamily.

There are two font families more,  sans and mono which is similar as rm.
It is really nice to use \definefontfamily which saves a lot of work to define 
fonts. 

Thanks Wolfgang.
If there are something should changed in the above definition, please tell me 
what to do.

Best regards,

Dalyoung


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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals -- absence of \definefontfamily

[Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context]

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

> On 1/3/2022 9:41 PM, Youssef Cherem via ntg-context wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > I've come back to using Context and I noticed the nice manuals around -- 
> > but one thing I miss is \definefontfamily (and \definefallbackfamily).
> > 
> > There is info here:
> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_fonts_distributed_with_ConTeXt 
> > 
> > 
> > and then checking out the specific page: 
> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefontfamily 
> > 
> > 
> > It still baffles me that definefontfamily, though much simpler than 
> > typescripts (which is intimidating), is not mentioned in the beginner's 
> > manuals (unless I missed something) and neither is it given more 
> > prominence in the Wiki, although I often see it mentioned in the forums. 
> > Being used to fontspec's simplicity, I'd never use typescripts. It would 
> > help a lot, for example, to include a sample of "definefontfamily" in 
> > "Use any font you like".
> > 
> > Is there a reason why definefontfamily doesn't appear at all in the 
> > manuals (as far as I could see), which are rather comprehensive otherwise?
> 
> Because Wolfgang has to write a chapter (or a MyWay document) and we're 
> all mostly volunteers so ...

There is the talk that Wolfgang gave in this year's context meeting:

https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2021/talks/2021-09-23/definefontfamily.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] context manuals -- absence of \definefontfamily

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 1/3/2022 9:41 PM, Youssef Cherem via ntg-context wrote:

Dear all,

I've come back to using Context and I noticed the nice manuals around -- 
but one thing I miss is \definefontfamily (and \definefallbackfamily).


There is info here:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_fonts_distributed_with_ConTeXt 



and then checking out the specific page: 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefontfamily 



It still baffles me that definefontfamily, though much simpler than 
typescripts (which is intimidating), is not mentioned in the beginner's 
manuals (unless I missed something) and neither is it given more 
prominence in the Wiki, although I often see it mentioned in the forums. 
Being used to fontspec's simplicity, I'd never use typescripts. It would 
help a lot, for example, to include a sample of "definefontfamily" in 
"Use any font you like".


Is there a reason why definefontfamily doesn't appear at all in the 
manuals (as far as I could see), which are rather comprehensive otherwise?


Because Wolfgang has to write a chapter (or a MyWay document) and we're 
all mostly volunteers so ...


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[NTG-context] context manuals -- absence of \definefontfamily

[Youssef Cherem via ntg-context]

Dear all,

I've come back to using Context and I noticed the nice manuals around --
but one thing I miss is \definefontfamily (and \definefallbackfamily).

There is info here:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_fonts_distributed_with_ConTeXt

and then checking out the specific page:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefontfamily

It still baffles me that definefontfamily, though much simpler than
typescripts (which is intimidating), is not mentioned in the beginner's
manuals (unless I missed something) and neither is it given more prominence
in the Wiki, although I often see it mentioned in the forums. Being used to
fontspec's simplicity, I'd never use typescripts. It would help a lot, for
example, to include a sample of "definefontfamily" in "Use any font you
like".

Is there a reason why definefontfamily doesn't appear at all in the manuals
(as far as I could see), which are rather comprehensive otherwise?

All the best and thanks again for everything.
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt support in LTEX

[Saša Janiška via ntg-context]

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:02:34AM +0100, Saša Janiška via ntg-context wrote:

> didn't have time to (properly) test, but you might be interested to hear
> that since 15.2.0 release - hot from the owen - there is now support for
> ConTeXt as well.

I apologize for forgetting to include any link:

https://valentjn.github.io/ltex/

https://github.com/valentjn/ltex-ls/issues/120

> Sincerely,
> Gour

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt support in LTEX

[Saša Janiška via ntg-context]

Hello,

didn't have time to (properly) test, but you might be interested to hear
that since 15.2.0 release - hot from the owen - there is now support for
ConTeXt as well.


Sincerely,
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the wise should not unsettle them, although these duties are inferior
due to the performers' lack of knowledge.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 9/12/2021 9:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote:

Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context schrieb am 12.09.2021 um 01:12:

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

  \definefontfeature
    [default:test]
    [default]
    [cv36=2,cv26=6]

What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.


There is a table on the github page with the results from all alternatives.

Look at section "Character Variats" on https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka

With fonts like that we might end up in issues anyway:

\definefontfeature[default:test][default][mlxx=yes,wflm=yes]
\definedfont[file:iosevka.ttc(Iosevka)*default:test] :> <>

e.g.

WFLMWolfram Language (Mathematica)

so we get font specific 4 char feature names that themselves have script 
/ language specifications (like latin default and cyrillic serbian 
wolfram) ... these could have been ss* features (after all, cv and ss 
are wildcards and opentype has never been that consistent), not that it 
matters much because it gets processed anyway, but it's a clear signal 
that anyone can roll out adn use any feature name


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 9/12/2021 9:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote:

Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context schrieb am 12.09.2021 um 01:12:

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

  \definefontfeature
    [default:test]
    [default]
    [cv36=2,cv26=6]

What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.


There is a table on the github page with the results from all alternatives.

Look at section "Character Variats" on https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka


  \definefont
    [SomeFont]
    [name:iosevka*default:test]


@Marcel: I suggest to load ttc fonts with the file option.

\starttext
\definedfont[file:iosevka.ttc(Iosevka)*none]Iosevka
\stoptext

as it experimental anyway, i changed this trick to

\definefontfeature[default:test][default][cvxx={repeatlast:3}]

repeatmiddle and repeatfirst also supported (it also permits context 
users to play with runtime feature definitions using multiples that act 
as extensibles)


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context schrieb am 12.09.2021 um 01:12:

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

  \definefontfeature
[default:test]
[default]
[cv36=2,cv26=6]

What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.


There is a table on the github page with the results from all alternatives.

Look at section "Character Variats" on https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka


  \definefont
[SomeFont]
[name:iosevka*default:test]


@Marcel: I suggest to load ttc fonts with the file option.

\starttext
\definedfont[file:iosevka.ttc(Iosevka)*none]Iosevka
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

[Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context]

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >  \definefontfeature
> >[default:test]
> >[default]
> >[cv36=2,cv26=6]
> 
> What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.

> 
> >  \definefont
> >[SomeFont]
> >[name:iosevka*default:test]
> >  \starttext
> >  \SomeFont
> >  I live in a dot-heavy world.
> >  \stoptext
> > 
> > has six dots instead of one dot over each "i". Tests with multiple other
> > font shapers and inspection of the font file confirmed that this is not
> > intentional behavior.
> > 
> > Could you take a look at that?
> > (Based on a luotfload bug report at
> > https://github.com/latex3/luaotfload/issues/202)
> when a number is specified for a multiple and the is > 1 we repeat the last
> glyph ... this is a 'secret' feature that (already a while ago) we added
> when discussing / testing a experimental arabic font in combination with a
> paragraph optimizer ... normally users will say 'yes' and not give a number

Thanks, this explains a lot. In this font it's problematic though
because the cv.. features have multiple loopup tables, one of which is a
"multiple" lookup (used to decompose characters before applying the
replacements, especially decomposing i into the stem and the dot)
and another one is an "alternate" lookup providing multiple character
variants.
So selecting one of the other alternates requires that a number is
passed, but passing the number enables the repetition in the multiple
lookup...

> 
> i can make that a 'context only' feature if needed

That would certainly solve the issue for me, but it might be nice to
provide a solution for context users too. Maybe the feature could be
adapted to only interpret the argument as a replication factor if the
"multiple" is the only lookup for the feature or if no other lookup
for the feature is an alternate lookup?

Best,
Marcel
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 9/11/2021 10:36 PM, Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,

ConTeXt has some issues with the character variant features of the
Iosevka font available at
https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka/releases/download/v10.1.1/super-ttc-iosevka-10.1.1.zip

E.g. the following document

 \definefontfeature
   [default:test]
   [default]
   [cv36=2,cv26=6]


What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?


 \definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:iosevka*default:test]
 \starttext
 \SomeFont
 I live in a dot-heavy world.
 \stoptext

has six dots instead of one dot over each "i". Tests with multiple other
font shapers and inspection of the font file confirmed that this is not
intentional behavior.

Could you take a look at that?
(Based on a luotfload bug report at
https://github.com/latex3/luaotfload/issues/202)
when a number is specified for a multiple and the is > 1 we repeat the 
last glyph ... this is a 'secret' feature that (already a while ago) we 
added when discussing / testing a experimental arabic font in 
combination with a paragraph optimizer ... normally users will say 'yes' 
and not give a number


i can make that a 'context only' feature if needed

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

[Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context]

Hi,

ConTeXt has some issues with the character variant features of the
Iosevka font available at
https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka/releases/download/v10.1.1/super-ttc-iosevka-10.1.1.zip

E.g. the following document

\definefontfeature
  [default:test]
  [default]
  [cv36=2,cv26=6]
\definefont
  [SomeFont]
  [name:iosevka*default:test]
\starttext
\SomeFont
I live in a dot-heavy world.
\stoptext

has six dots instead of one dot over each "i". Tests with multiple other
font shapers and inspection of the font file confirmed that this is not
intentional behavior.

Could you take a look at that?
(Based on a luotfload bug report at
https://github.com/latex3/luaotfload/issues/202)

Best regards,
Marcel
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt syntax highlighting for Atom

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Hi, in case you use "language-context" from 
https://github.com/massifrg/language-context.git :

I just updated the command list to LMTX and fixed backslash quoting, please 
update.

(Don’t use the "official" language-context module, it’s very outdated, but the 
author didn’t react to Massi’s and my offer to take over.)

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt support for Panic's Nova editor

[Felix Krause via ntg-context]

Hi folks,

I made a TeX extension for Panic's Nova editor (https://nova.app) with 
explicit ConTeXt support, available here:


https://extensions.panic.com/extensions/org.flyx/org.flyx.tex/

It features syntax highlighting, suggestions for builtin commands, code 
folding, auto-completion of stop commands, and structural overview of 
headings in the symbols sidebar. It also enables the editor's spell 
checking for non-command text.


I don't recommend buying this editor specifically for your TeX needs, 
but since I own it anyway I thought it would be nice for it to have TeX 
support.


Cheers,
Felix
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt exporter for Org Mode

[luigi scarso via ntg-context]

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:01 AM Jason Ross via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have developed a ConTeXt exporter for Org Mode. It is available at
> https://github.com/Jason-S-Ross/ox-context
>
> The exporter provides custom environments for each Org Mode entity
> in an effort to make customization easier, in contrast to the Pandoc
> exporter which uses built-in environments for document elements.
>
> I appreciate any feedback.
>

Perhaps just add a README.md that explains how to install it,  and a short
example.


-- 
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt exporter for Org Mode

[Jason Ross via ntg-context]

Hello,

I have developed a ConTeXt exporter for Org Mode. It is available at
https://github.com/Jason-S-Ross/ox-context

The exporter provides custom environments for each Org Mode entity
in an effort to make customization easier, in contrast to the Pandoc
exporter which uses built-in environments for document elements.

I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] context() does not ignore space in empty line

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/19/2021 9:22 AM, Sylvain Hubert wrote:

Dear list,

does anyone have an idea why, in the example below, context() starts a 
new paragraph at "\n\n" but not at "\n \n" with a space in between? Is 
there any way to fix it?


\starttext
Without using context(), inside the next parentheses is a new line: (
) note that a space sits between the two line breaks.

\startluacode
   context('Using context(), inside the next parentheses is also a new 
line: (\n\n) because there is *no* space between the two line breaks.\n\n')
   context('Using context(), inside the next parentheses is however *no* 
new line: (\n \n) because of the space between the two line breaks.\n\n')

\stopluacode
\stoptext

Any help is appreciated.

kind of tricky and dangerous to chanmge after many years

in cldf-ini.lua, change line 579 into

local emptyline = space^0 * newline^2 + newline * space^1

and run context --make

then test

\starttext
\startbuffer
\startluacode
context('line 1.1 (\n)   line 1.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 2.1 (\n )  line 2.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 3.1 ( \n)  line 3.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 4.1 ( \n ) line 4.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 5.1 (\n\n) line 5.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 6.1 (\n\n )line 6.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 7.1 ( \n\n)line 7.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 8.1 ( \n\n )   line 8.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 9.1 (\n \n)line 9.2\n\n') context.blank()
context('line 0.1 (\n \n \n) line 0.2\n\n') context.blank()
\stopluacode
\stopbuffer
\typebuffer
\getbuffer
\stoptext

now, the question is, does this cover all cases and is this what we 
expect ...


Hans


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[NTG-context] context() does not ignore space in empty line

[Sylvain Hubert]

Dear list,

does anyone have an idea why, in the example below, context() starts a new
paragraph at "\n\n" but not at "\n \n" with a space in between? Is there
any way to fix it?

\starttext
Without using context(), inside the next parentheses is a new line: (

) note that a space sits between the two line breaks.

\startluacode
  context('Using context(), inside the next parentheses is also a new line:
(\n\n) because there is *no* space between the two line breaks.\n\n')
  context('Using context(), inside the next parentheses is however *no* new
line: (\n \n) because of the space between the two line breaks.\n\n')
\stopluacode
\stoptext

Any help is appreciated.

Best,
Sylvain
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Meeting 2021 announcement; Call for submissions

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi all!


15th International ConTeXt Meeting
==

The fifteenth ConTeXt meeting will take place in Bassenge, Belgium on

September 20–25, 2021

This will be our fourth meeting at ’t Sjetootje / Château Boirs (!) 

Registration


Registration will start on May 1.


Call for submissions


The theme for this meeting is:

expanding orbits

But, as in previous years, anything at all related to ConTeXt that you 
would like to share is an acceptable subject for a presentation, 
tutorial, discussion, Q session, demonstration, workshop, recital, 
sketch, or sermon.

The programme committee is Hans Hagen and Taco Hoekwater, feel free to 
email them with hints and ideas.

Hoping to see many of you in person in September, your organiser,

Taco

— 
Taco Hoekwater  E: t...@bittext.nl
genderfluid (all pronouns)



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[NTG-context] ConTeXt, KeenWrite, Markdown, and XHTML

[Thangalin]

How would you convert the first class attribute of XHTML div elements
to ConTeXt LMTX-specific start/stop environments?

For example:



Whose woods these are I think I know.


And miles to go before I sleep.



Becomes (the equivalent of?):

\startpoem
\startstanza
Whose woods these are I think I know.
\stopstanza
\startstanza
And miles to go before I sleep.
\stopstanza
\stoppoem

In case this is an XY problem, background details follow. In a
nutshell: convert a processed Markdown file that includes interpolated
variables, arbitrary classes, and output from R functions into a
format that ConTeXt can typeset.

Background Details

Pandoc's fenced div syntax is now supported by my text editor,
allowing users to write "paragraph classes" in Markdown, such as:

::: {.poem .dark}
::: stanza
Whose woods these are I think I know.
:::
:::

This gets converted to XHTML (as shown above), which is to be rendered
using ConTeXt LMTX. Rendering via ConTeXt needs the following tool
chain:

Editor (.md) -> run Pandoc (.tex) -> run ConTeXt (.pdf)

Generating XHTML means Pandoc can be removed, simplifying the chain:

Editor (.md -> magic -> .xhtml) -> run ConTeXt (.pdf)

The Lua code to generate start/stop environments with Pandoc is
described in Part 8 of my Typesetting Markdown series.

https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2020/04/28/typesetting-markdown-part-8/#annotations

The XML-MKIV documentation shows how to map a specific setup to a
particular attribute:

\xmlsetsetup{demo}{resource[@type='figure']}{xml:demo:figure}

In Schmitz' XHTML-oriented My Way from 2010 there's a getmeas Lua
function defined on page 9 that parses a width attribute. That's great
for the opening div, but how would you close/stop the correct
environment for nested divs? Would ConTeXt automatically track these
on a stack, for example?

Additional Ideas

Given that the text editor converts Markdown to XHTML and has an XSLT
engine, the following is possible:

Editor (.md -> .xhtml) -> XSLT (.tex) -> run ConTeXt (.pdf)

Piping XHTML directly into ConTeXt would be ideal, though. Well,
piping CommonMark plus fenced div extensions to ConTeXt would be
optimal, but my understanding is that support isn't quite there yet.

Aditya wrote a Markdown filter that runs:

pandoc -t context -o \externalfilteroutputfile\space \externalfilterinputfile

This still needs Pandoc, though.

There's also a dependency-free Markdown module. A few problems though.
First, the module isn't ported to ConTeXt LMTX, yet? Second, it
doesn't support element attributes beyond enabling content slicing.
(Third, the module has LaTeX support tightly bundled within, which
bloats a pure ConTeXt solution.)

Related Links

https://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/tas/xhtml.pdf
https://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf
https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite#screenshots
https://github.com/adityam/filter/blob/master/README.md
https://mirror.its.dal.ca/ctan/macros/generic/markdown/markdown.html#header-attributes
https://github.com/Witiko/markdown/
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Re: [NTG-context] Context install for Apple Silicon M1 mac mini

[Keith McKay]

Hi Otared,

Thank you for your kind offer but Hans has modified the install script 
such that it downloads the intel binaries which work under Rosetta on my 
mac mini. I've ran context  through the Terminal app and it went like a 
dream. Just to setup TeXShop and or TeXWorks and that is me sorted.


Thanks again and Best Wishes

Keith McKay

Scotland, UK

On 01/12/2020 17:17, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Keith,

You may try to copy to your new machine the whole folder where you have 
installed LMTX on your old machine, and then run
context --make
there. Indeed if this works for your current LMTX folder you'll need someone to 
prepare a whole working folder of updated LMTX. As long as I have a PowerBook 
with the old chip (and running MacOS 14), I may do this for you and then put a 
zip file on Dropbox. However I may be too pushed to get a new M1 PowerBook in 
the future.

Best regards: Otared K.


On 1 Dec 2020, at 13:01, Keith McKay  wrote:

Hi,

I have recently retired my 2012 mac mini in favour of a new Apple silicon M1 mac mini on 
which I would like to install ConTeXt. I know that their are no ARM binaries yet for 
ConTeXt but Apple say that intel binaries can be run on an ARM using the Rosetta 
emmulation software. I tried to download the intel binaries using the install.sh that 
comes with the context-osx-64.zip file but of course it does not recognise the ARM chip 
and suggests contacting the mailing list. In some previous emails to the list, in which I 
was a participent, (see the post "new upload" of 26/11/2020) their was some 
discussion on how Context could be set up to work on these machines by building binaries 
using Xcode. I am afraid this is well above my skillset so I was wondering how I could 
get the Intel binaries and then set up ConTeXt running with the Rosetta emulation 
software. I should be able to do that. If this is possible, I would be very happy to do 
some testing and report back my experiences to the list.

Best Wishes

Keith McKay

Scotland, UK

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Re: [NTG-context] Context install for Apple Silicon M1 mac mini

[Hans Hagen]

On 12/1/2020 6:17 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Keith,

You may try to copy to your new machine the whole folder where you have 
installed LMTX on your old machine, and then run
context --make
there. Indeed if this works for your current LMTX folder you'll need someone to 
prepare a whole working folder of updated LMTX. As long as I have a PowerBook 
with the old chip (and running MacOS 14), I may do this for you and then put a 
zip file on Dropbox. However I may be too pushed to get a new M1 PowerBook in 
the future.
the trick is in the install script: we've added apple arm recognition 
there so assuming an updated install.sh one should be okay


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Context install for Apple Silicon M1 mac mini

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Keith,

You may try to copy to your new machine the whole folder where you have 
installed LMTX on your old machine, and then run 
context --make
there. Indeed if this works for your current LMTX folder you'll need someone to 
prepare a whole working folder of updated LMTX. As long as I have a PowerBook 
with the old chip (and running MacOS 14), I may do this for you and then put a 
zip file on Dropbox. However I may be too pushed to get a new M1 PowerBook in 
the future.

Best regards: Otared K.

> On 1 Dec 2020, at 13:01, Keith McKay  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have recently retired my 2012 mac mini in favour of a new Apple silicon M1 
> mac mini on which I would like to install ConTeXt. I know that their are no 
> ARM binaries yet for ConTeXt but Apple say that intel binaries can be run on 
> an ARM using the Rosetta emmulation software. I tried to download the intel 
> binaries using the install.sh that comes with the context-osx-64.zip file but 
> of course it does not recognise the ARM chip and suggests contacting the 
> mailing list. In some previous emails to the list, in which I was a 
> participent, (see the post "new upload" of 26/11/2020) their was some 
> discussion on how Context could be set up to work on these machines by 
> building binaries using Xcode. I am afraid this is well above my skillset so 
> I was wondering how I could get the Intel binaries and then set up ConTeXt 
> running with the Rosetta emulation software. I should be able to do that. If 
> this is possible, I would be very happy to do some testing and report back my 
> experiences to the list.
> 
> Best Wishes
> 
> Keith McKay
> 
> Scotland, UK
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[NTG-context] Context install for Apple Silicon M1 mac mini

[Keith McKay]

Hi,

I have recently retired my 2012 mac mini in favour of a new Apple 
silicon M1 mac mini on which I would like to install ConTeXt. I know 
that their are no ARM binaries yet for ConTeXt but Apple say that intel 
binaries can be run on an ARM using the Rosetta emmulation software. I 
tried to download the intel binaries using the install.sh that comes 
with the context-osx-64.zip file but of course it does not recognise the 
ARM chip and suggests contacting the mailing list. In some previous 
emails to the list, in which I was a participent, (see the post "new 
upload" of 26/11/2020) their was some discussion on how Context could be 
set up to work on these machines by building binaries using Xcode. I am 
afraid this is well above my skillset so I was wondering how I could get 
the Intel binaries and then set up ConTeXt running with the Rosetta 
emulation software. I should be able to do that. If this is possible, I 
would be very happy to do some testing and report back my experiences to 
the list.


Best Wishes

Keith McKay

Scotland, UK

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Linux installation issues (due to GLIBC dependency) - Solved!

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Ramkumar,

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 02:10, Ramkumar KB wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> This turned out to be an issue with the texmf-context.zip file version 
> mismatch. I updated to version 1.04 and was able to install successfully!
>
> However, I would like to contribute a section to Wiki on how to install 
> ConTeXt in Linux machines which does not have the proper GLIBC version. This 
> is especially true with RHEL 7.x versions - which is still the majority 
> installation in companies & institutions with RHEL subscription.

I'm sorry. We have VMs with an older version of Debian for building,
but those don't provide sufficiently recent build tools (cmake, git,
ninja build system, ... I believe that CMake was the main blocker, but
I'm no longer absolutely sure).

By far the easiest solution was to switch from Debian 8 to 9 (or
something like that, I should check the exact numbers) and you might
be the first one bringing the issue up. I was aware that switching to
a newer Debian version might have caused compatibility issues with
RHEL / CentOS. (Do you happen to have some matrix of glibc versions on
RHEL / CentOS?)

> The section will cover GLIBC 2.24 install, patchelf utility and the changes 
> needed to ConTeXt install scripts for such an installation.
>
> How can I go about contributing to the wiki?

Do you have trouble creating a new account on the wiki?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Linux installation issues (due to GLIBC dependency) - Solved!

[Ramkumar KB]

Hello All,

This turned out to be an issue with the texmf-context.zip file version
mismatch. I updated to version 1.04 and was able to install successfully!

However, I would like to contribute a section to Wiki on how to install
ConTeXt in Linux machines which does not have the proper GLIBC version.
This is especially true with RHEL 7.x versions - which is still the
majority installation in companies & institutions with RHEL subscription.

The section will cover GLIBC 2.24 install, patchelf utility and the changes
needed to ConTeXt install scripts for such an installation.

How can I go about contributing to the wiki?

Thank you,
Ramkumar

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 5:31 PM Ramkumar KB  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am having a situation where I have to install and run Context in a Linux
> machine but the machine(s) have only RHEL 7.6 (which comes with only
> GLIBC_2.17).
> From the initial error logs it appears that Context needs minimum
> GLIBC_2.23. Therefore, I did the following work around and it almost worked
> ! (there were no more GLIBC_2.23 errors and installation was progressing
> well...) , till it did not... :-(
>
> Any tips or suggestions to try would be indeed very helpful. Thanks so
> much !
>
> *Work Around* -
> Manually installed GLIBC_2.23 as per the instructions here - in my own
> directory where I have full access -
> https://gist.github.com/carlesloriente/ab3387e7d035ed400dc2816873e9089e
>
> *Patchelf Utility*
> Used the patchelf utility - https://anaconda.org/conda-forge/patchelf
>
> *Changed the following Context install files*
> *install.sh (just before running mtxrun)*
> *===*
> patchelf --set-interpreter
> /my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --set-rpath
> /my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib:/usr/lib64 $PWD/bin/mtxrun $PWD/bin/mtxrun
> --script ./bin/mtx-install.lua --update --server="$LMTXSERVER"
> --instance="$LMTXINSTANCE" --platform="$PLATFORM" --erase
> --extras="$LMTXEXTRAS"
> *mtx-install.lua (just before running mtxrunbin)*
> 
> run("patchelf --set-interpreter 
> /my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --set-rpath 
> /my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib:/usr/lib64 %s", mtxrunbin)
> run("%s --generate",mtxrunbin)
>
> *Error that I see (in the step `make luametatex format`) - *
> resolvers   | formats | changing to format path '/my-own-dir
> /ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f3
> 2e/formats/luametatex'
> resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luametatex format': /
> my-own-dir/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/luametatex --ini
> --lua=/my-own-dir/chantool/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lmt
> /my-own-dir/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.
> mkxl
> This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.08.01
> 2097153(/my-own-dir/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.m
> kxl
> ! Undefined control sequence.
>  \voffset
> \zeropoint \let\voffset\relax \newdimen\voffset \let\normalvoffset\voffset
> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
> 
> \let
> <
> ...
> (That makes 100 errors; please try again.)resolvers   | formats |
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Linux installation issues (due to GLIBC dependency)

[Ramkumar KB]

Hello All,

I am having a situation where I have to install and run Context in a Linux
machine but the machine(s) have only RHEL 7.6 (which comes with only
GLIBC_2.17).
>From the initial error logs it appears that Context needs minimum
GLIBC_2.23. Therefore, I did the following work around and it almost worked
! (there were no more GLIBC_2.23 errors and installation was progressing
well...) , till it did not... :-(

Any tips or suggestions to try would be indeed very helpful. Thanks so much
!

*Work Around* -
Manually installed GLIBC_2.23 as per the instructions here - in my own
directory where I have full access -
https://gist.github.com/carlesloriente/ab3387e7d035ed400dc2816873e9089e

*Patchelf Utility*
Used the patchelf utility - https://anaconda.org/conda-forge/patchelf

*Changed the following Context install files*
*install.sh (just before running mtxrun)*
*===*
patchelf --set-interpreter
/my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --set-rpath
/my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib:/usr/lib64 $PWD/bin/mtxrun $PWD/bin/mtxrun
--script ./bin/mtx-install.lua --update --server="$LMTXSERVER"
--instance="$LMTXINSTANCE" --platform="$PLATFORM" --erase
--extras="$LMTXEXTRAS"
*mtx-install.lua (just before running mtxrunbin)*

run("patchelf --set-interpreter
/my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --set-rpath
/my-own-dir/opt/glibc-2.23/lib:/usr/lib64 %s", mtxrunbin)
run("%s --generate",mtxrunbin)

*Error that I see (in the step `make luametatex format`) - *
resolvers   | formats | changing to format path '/my-own-dir
/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f3
2e/formats/luametatex'
resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'make luametatex format': /
my-own-dir/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/luametatex --ini
--lua=/my-own-dir/chantool/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/luat-cod.lmt
/my-own-dir/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.
mkxl
This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.08.01
2097153(/my-own-dir/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.m
kxl
! Undefined control sequence.
 \voffset
\zeropoint \let\voffset\relax \newdimen\voffset \let\normalvoffset\voffset
! Missing number, treated as zero.

\let
<
...
(That makes 100 errors; please try again.)resolvers   | formats |
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone last version

[Jano Kula]

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 08:58, Joaquín Ataz López  wrote:

> The last time I checked the date of the ConTeXt Standalone version I had
> installed was early last summer, and the version installed was April 30,
> 2020. But today I wanted to update the version and I see that the "new"
> version that has been installed is the version of January 30, 2020. That
> is: the version has been moved back.
>
> Does anyone know why it has regressed?
>

Mine latest is 2020.01.30 14:13 and I would guess it's a typo instead of
2020.10.30 (though time suggests it could be generated).
Likely nothing was regressed to January.

Jano
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone last version

[Joaquín Ataz López]

The last time I checked the date of the ConTeXt Standalone version I had 
installed was early last summer, and the version installed was April 30, 
2020. But today I wanted to update the version and I see that the "new" 
version that has been installed is the version of January 30, 2020. That 
is: the version has been moved back.


Does anyone know why it has regressed?

--

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