Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Re: Spurious newlines at beginning of startstop pair

2019-11-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/29/2019 11:05 AM, Denis Maier wrote:

Am 29.11.2019 um 10:38 schrieb Hans Hagen:
Second: For some reasons I have not received your message. It wasn't 
in the Spam folder and I usually receive mails from the list. Any 
ideas? Are there some known problems?


Your mailbox host does some strange address checking (we run a mail 
server here and then go to the provider and it checks the internal 
server with a local address) ... there are some more on this list that 
bounce that way, like gmx, and i';ve given up bothering about it.

 hans


Ok, what do you suggest? Change to a different mailserver for the list? 
Which hosts aren't prone to this problem? Or is there something I can 
change on my side?
as long as you get messages from the list it's ok, but i normally hit 
reply so it also can to you then in which case it bounces


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Re: Spurious newlines at beginning of startstop pair

2019-11-29 Thread Denis Maier

Am 29.11.2019 um 10:38 schrieb Hans Hagen:
Second: For some reasons I have not received your message. It wasn't 
in the Spam folder and I usually receive mails from the list. Any 
ideas? Are there some known problems?


Your mailbox host does some strange address checking (we run a mail 
server here and then go to the provider and it checks the internal 
server with a local address) ... there are some more on this list that 
bounce that way, like gmx, and i';ve given up bothering about it.

 hans


Ok, what do you suggest? Change to a different mailserver for the list? 
Which hosts aren't prone to this problem? Or is there something I can 
change on my side?

Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Re: Spurious newlines at beginning of startstop pair

2019-11-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/28/2019 11:26 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:

Hans,
thanks for your answer. But two questions:
First: Am I right to assume that the important part is `\GetPar`. The rest is 
syntactic sugar to make to code more ConTeXt-like, right?


what you do is something:

\def\foo{something that introduces a node)

\foo

rest of test

so you have:



rest of text

so:

\startwhatever
some text
\stopwhatever

versus:

\startwhatever

some text

\stopwhatever


Second: For some reasons I have not received your message. It wasn't in the 
Spam folder and I usually receive mails from the list. Any ideas? Are there 
some known problems?


Your mailbox host does some strange address checking (we run a mail 
server here and then go to the provider and it checks the internal 
server with a local address) ... there are some more on this list that 
bounce that way, like gmx, and i';ve given up bothering about it.

 hans

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[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: Spurious newlines at beginning of startstop pair

2019-11-28 Thread denis . maier . lists
Hans,
thanks for your answer. But two questions:
First: Am I right to assume that the important part is `\GetPar`. The rest is 
syntactic sugar to make to code more ConTeXt-like, right?
Second: For some reasons I have not received your message. It wasn't in the 
Spam folder and I usually receive mails from the list. Any ideas? Are there 
some known problems?

Best,
Denis


On 11/27/2019 2:17 PM, Denis Maier wrote:
> Hi,
> I have this file:
> 
> --
> \newdimen\cslhangindent
> \cslhangindent=1.5em
> \definestartstop [cslreferences] [
>  before={%
>  \setupnarrower[left=\cslhangindent]
>  \startnarrower[left]%
>  \setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes,first]%
>  \indentation%
>},
>after=\stopnarrower,
>  ]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \section{Some title}
> 
> \input ward
> 
> \section{References}
> 
> \startcslreferences
> 
> \dorecurse{10}{\dorecurse{10}{This is a Test. }\par}
> 
> \stopcslreferences
> 
> \stoptext
> --
> 
> The skip after the `\section{References}` is bigger than after 
> `\section{Some title}`. Why is that? If I delete the empty line after 
> `\startcslreferences`, the skips are identical.
> 
> Is there a way to take care of this through `\definestartstop`?
you need to get rid of the empty line

\definenarrower[whatever][left=1.5em]

\definestartstop
   [cslreferences]
   [before={%
 \startwhatever[left]
 \setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes,first]
 \indentation
 \GetPar
},
after=\stopwhatever]

\showframe

\starttext

\section{Some title}

\input ward

\section{References}

\startcslreferences

 \dorecurse{10}{\dorecurse{10}{This is a Test. }\par}

\stopcslreferences

\stoptext
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