Well, I am a beginner. I have just lost 2 hours trying to do something
which ought to be simple. Perhaps now I have spent 10's of hours
working at my understanding, yet still I have to look up the simplest
essentials, often. And I think knowing what kind of things it is, and
where one might look
2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out:
5) how to better promote context to new/latex users?
I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide not only
for programmers but a simple guide for dummies. Like
2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out:
5) how to better promote context to new/latex users?
I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide not only
for programmers but a simple guide for dummies. Like
2011/3/14 Carlos Breton Besnier breton.car...@gmail.com
2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out:
5) how to better promote context to new/latex users?
I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide
Yes, I see that would be a non-trivial problem. Maybe as a stop-gap some
ConTeXt files could be provided which at least roughly emulate a few
standard LaTeX styles?
-Alasdair
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote:
Am 2011-03-14 um 07:33 schrieb Alasdair McAndrew:
Yes, I see that would be a non-trivial problem. Maybe as a stop-gap
some ConTeXt files could be provided which at least roughly emulate
a few standard LaTeX styles?
Again:
We senior ConTeXt users won’t look thoroughly at a few standard
Hi,
On 03/13/2011 12:04 AM, Pontus Lurcock wrote:
On Sat 12 Mar 2011, C. wrote:
2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals?
Because they already have it in miktex, texlive. What they don't know is
that these versions are outdated and due to the heavy development pretty
far behind.
2011/3/14 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu:
The hard part is figuring out the values (font size, spaces after sections,
etc) from the LaTeX code. It is difficult to look at
http://mirror.hmc.edu/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/IEEEtran.cls and
figure out what is the title size for a 10pt
On 2011-03-13 23:12:36, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote:
Speaking as a raw ConTeXt beginner, I would find it very helpful to have a
library of different styles: LaTeX, journal, conference and book styles.
Although all the information is probably there, it
FWIW, specifications of standard LaTeX styles can be found
herehttp://www.tug.org/texlive/devsrc/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/base/classes.pdf.
It's a closely written 66 page document.
-Alasdair
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote:
2011/3/14 Aditya Mahajan
2011/3/12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out:
5) how to better promote context to new/latex users?
I think is needed a installation guide for non-technical. A guide not only
for programmers but a simple guide for dummies. Like
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 08:46, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Mojca, this does not need
much more initial work than fixing the wiki pages, right?
Except that wiki pages are in a really horrible shape when it comes to
Installation pages.
I bet that 90% of pages are outdated with wrong information about
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 15:26, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Except that wiki pages are in a really horrible shape when it comes to
Installation pages.
[...]
If anyone has the slightest idea where to start, please do it.
FWIW, I updated the Ubuntu pages last week.
The
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:35:54 -0800
Henry House hajho...@hajhouse.org wrote:
I strongly agree that sample set-up code (ideally
well-commented so that
it also serves as a tutorial of sorts) to reproduce the
style of LaTeX
would be helpful. The appearance of LaTeX documents
isn't perfect but
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Henry House wrote:
Procházka Lukáš wrote:
[...]
5) how to better promote context to new/latex users?
For LaTeX incomers: it would be good to provide a sample setup
(module?) which would make Ctx generated .pdf looking very closely to
that been generated by LaTeX.
Speaking as a raw ConTeXt beginner, I would find it very helpful to have a
library of different styles: LaTeX, journal, conference and book styles.
Although all the information is probably there, it is very scattered around
though manuals, the wiki, and other documents, and so is in consequence
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote:
Speaking as a raw ConTeXt beginner, I would find it very helpful to have a
library of different styles: LaTeX, journal, conference and book styles.
Although all the information is probably there, it is very scattered around
though manuals, the wiki,
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 19:07, Alasdair McAndrew amc...@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking as a raw ConTeXt beginner, I would find it very helpful to have a
library of different styles: LaTeX, journal, conference and book styles.
This is what I've been setting out to do, build a set of examples. So
far
For example. the LaTeX ieee.sty is available at
http://delphiwww.cern.ch/delphi$www/private/det/stc/ieee94/mp/ieee.sty and
ACM styles at http://www.acm.org/publications/latex_style/. How hard would
it be to emulate these in ConTeXt?
-Alasdair
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, mathew
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote:
For example. the LaTeX ieee.sty is available at
http://delphiwww.cern.ch/delphi$www/private/det/stc/ieee94/mp/ieee.sty and
ACM styles at http://www.acm.org/publications/latex_style/. How hard would
it be to emulate these in ConTeXt?
The hard part
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out:
1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii?
2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals?
3) how to restructure the garden to make things clearer for newcomers?
4) how do users look for information and how to optimise the garden
On 2011-03-12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote:
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out:
1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii?
Because the old manuals only mention mkii and many things have changed in mkiv
and don't work in mkii. It is not easy for
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 14:05, Marco wrote:
On 2011-03-12 Florian Wobbe wrote:
Then I am aware of many people who are reluctant to install the minimals. I
now wonder why I (myself) was unwilling to install the minimals in the
first place, having TeXLive installed already. For one it was
Hello,
my personal opinion(s) (some of them very similar to Marco's ones):
1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii?
(Cannot say; I started with MkIV so for me ConTeXt = MkIV.)
2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals?
The word minimals is a bit confusing. It implies that
Hello ConTeXist.
I installed ConTeXt minimals until pretty late. Before, I used the
context in the TeXLive. For a long time I really thought that Minimals
are incomplete versions of minimal and that there was something more.
I was very pleasantly surprised at how easily Minimals installed and
] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out:
1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii?
2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals?
3) how to restructure the garden to make things clearer for newcomers?
4) how do users
On Sat 12 Mar 2011, C. wrote:
2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals?
Because they already have it in miktex, texlive. What they don't know is
that these versions are outdated and due to the heavy development pretty
far behind. Plus, it should say Context Standalone because that
Procházka Lukáš wrote:
[...]
5) how to better promote context to new/latex users?
For LaTeX incomers: it would be good to provide a sample setup (module?)
which would make Ctx generated .pdf looking very closely to that been
generated by LaTeX.
Now, if you see a .pdf document and you
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:21, Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote:
Then I am aware of many people who are reluctant to install the
minimals. I now wonder why I (myself) was unwilling to install the
minimals in the first place, having TeXLive installed already. For one
it was because of the
On Sat 12 Mar 2011, mathew wrote:
My experience on Ubuntu is that if you install the ConTeXt minimals
in your path, they break a bunch of stuff from TeXLive, such as
pdfcrop.
I have the minimals installed but with no automatic setup in .bashrc
or similar. So when I need to run ConTeXt, I fire
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote:
On Sat 12 Mar 2011, mathew wrote:
My experience on Ubuntu is that if you install the ConTeXt minimals
in your path, they break a bunch of stuff from TeXLive, such as
pdfcrop.
I have the minimals installed but with no
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 21:08, C. meta...@gmx.de wrote:
Hello,
I recently started using context. I migrated from latex to xelatex to
context. Mainly because of the better font support. I now value context also
for its superior abilities. I feel that I can do more stuff without the use
of
On 03/13/2011 12:35 AM, Henry House wrote:
Procházka Lukáš wrote:
[...]
5) how to better promote context to new/latex users?
For LaTeX incomers: it would be good to provide a sample setup (module?) which
would make Ctx generated .pdf looking very closely to that been generated by
LaTeX.
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