Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Hi Taco, Taco Hoekwater a écrit : About the overall formatting: have you tried using num-fr together with \setuppublications[refcommand=authoryears] ? Ok, formatting is better with \setuppublications[alternative=num-fr,sorttype=bbl,numbering=yes] I'll try to have a look at your labelling request today or tomorrow, but I cannot promise. I have not checked but I think I have already submitted this problem 2 or 3 months ago when I began to play with ConTeXt m-bib... To all: Am I the only one who want to do this kind of bib formatting ??? I think LaTeX + bibTeX do that by default with apa style... IMHO, it's a key feature... Cheers, Renaud ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Renaud AUBIN wrote: I have not checked but I think I have already submitted this problem 2 or 3 months ago when I began to play with ConTeXt m-bib... To all: Am I the only one who want to do this kind of bib formatting ??? I think LaTeX + bibTeX do that by default with apa style... IMHO, it's a key feature... If you want the bib module to do it's formatting a certain way, send me an example of input desired output. I do not know what LaTeX + bibTeX do that by default with apa style, nor do I especially want to learn precisely what it does, just so I can mimic it for the bib module in case someone needs ConTeXt to behave exactly like LaTeX. The formatting in bibl-apa is taken from the guidelines on the http://www.apastyle.org website. If that is actually wrong, I do not know where to look instead. Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Taco Hoekwater a écrit : If you want the bib module to do it's formatting a certain way, send me an example of input desired output. Ok, see http://renojrl.lrv.uvsq.fr/bibsample.pdf (extracted from an old report made in 2003 with a hacked bst based on http://www.irit.fr/~Gael.Jaffre/LOGICIELS/LATEX_BIBTEX/MODIF_GAEL/frcomplet.bst) I have just used normal \cite calls + a standard bib file... I do not know what LaTeX + bibTeX do that by default with apa style, nor do I especially want to learn precisely what it does, just so I can mimic it for the bib module in case someone needs ConTeXt to behave exactly like LaTeX. I have checked, this is not at all the default behaviour of LaTeX+bibTeX, sorry... The formatting in bibl-apa is taken from the guidelines on the http://www.apastyle.org website. If that is actually wrong, I do not know where to look instead. You're right, using guidelines is the best approach. Ok, my wishes are not in respect with the standards. Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Hi all,
At first, I use m-bib-beta-20060208.zip. Up to now, I used:
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=num-fr,sorttype=bbl,numbering=yes]
%% In order to format Names with small capitals:
\def\mynormalauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{\bibdoif{#1}{#1\bibalternative{firstnamesep}}%
\bibdoif{#2}{#2\bibalternative{vonsep}}%
\bgroup\sc#3\egroup\bibalternative{surnamesep}\unskip
\bibdoif{#5}{#5\unskip}}
\setuppublicationlist
[artauthor=\mynormalauthor,
editor=\mynormalauthor,
author=\mynormalauthor]
Everything works fine, but now I would use apa-fr and I have some
problems. After discussing this topic with Taco on #context, I have
tried the following code:
% \cite[name00] should return [Name, 2000]
\unprotect\def\mybibcommand#1{\expanded{\cite[\@@pbk]}~~} \protect
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl,numbercommand=\mybibcommand,
numbering=yes,autohang=yes]
\setupcite[authoryears][left={[},right={]}]
So, just forget to format the authors with normalauthor small
capitals It's ok for the cite command but labels of the references
listing is wrong (each label are the same and correspond in fact to the
last entry ! )... Any idea ???
Add to this the fact that I don't like the formatting of the year -
(1999). Since I like the formatting applied with num-fr, how to
reproduce it with apa-fr.
(I have tested apa and apa-fr and it gives same results in either)
Cheers,
Renaud
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Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
It's confirmed: same problems with t-bib-2006.03.13.zip
( Please Taco, is it possible to remove leftover "year needed" messages
? )
Renaud AUBIN a crit:
Hi all,
At first, I use m-bib-beta-20060208.zip. Up to now, I used:
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=num-fr,sorttype=bbl,numbering=yes]
%% In order to format Names with small capitals:
\def\mynormalauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{\bibdoif{#1}{#1\bibalternative{firstnamesep}}%
\bibdoif{#2}{#2\bibalternative{vonsep}}%
\bgroup\sc#3\egroup\bibalternative{surnamesep}\unskip
\bibdoif{#5}{#5\unskip}}
\setuppublicationlist
[artauthor=\mynormalauthor,
editor=\mynormalauthor,
author=\mynormalauthor]
Everything works fine, but now I would use apa-fr and I have some
problems. After discussing this topic with Taco on #context, I have
tried the following code:
% \cite[name00] should return [Name, 2000]
\unprotect\def\mybibcommand#1{\expanded{\cite[\@@pbk]}~~} \protect
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl,numbercommand=\mybibcommand,
numbering=yes,autohang=yes]
\setupcite[authoryears][left={[},right={]}]
So, just forget to format the authors with normalauthor small
capitals It's ok for the cite command but labels of the references
listing is wrong (each label are the same and correspond in fact to the
last entry ! )... Any idea ???
Add to this the fact that I don't like the formatting of the year -
(1999). Since I like the formatting applied with num-fr, how to
reproduce it with apa-fr.
(I have tested apa and apa-fr and it gives same results in either)
Cheers,
Renaud
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Re: [NTG-context] References formatting (m-bib related problems)
Renaud AUBIN wrote: It's confirmed: same problems with t-bib-2006.03.13.zip About the overall formatting: have you tried using num-fr together with \setuppublications[refcommand=authoryears] ? I'll try to have a look at your labelling request today or tomorrow, but I cannot promise. ( Please Taco, is it possible to remove leftover year needed messages ? ) The are gone in the version I sent Hans for the next context release (that will be real soon now, i hope) Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
