Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 12/06/2011 10:29 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: [...] Why not, this is what I get from your example (time context test.tex): real 0m0.922s user 0m0.853s sys 0m0.061s This is what I got: real0m8.744s user0m6.449s sys 0m0.549s Almost ×10 slower :-(. I have realized that I always use the --purgeall option (to keep my system clean), without it I get: real0m2.466s user0m2.273s sys 0m0.182s But still about ×2.5 slower. Thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 12/06/2011 10:58 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Hi pablo, On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:07:25 -0700, Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de wrote: Otherwise, things like this happen every time I compile a ConTeXt document. Once I had a luatex.dll file out of sync with the latest version of luatex -- don't ask me how it happened -- and it caused loading context macros to take much longer, to reload the cache every run, and to run more times than needed. Looking closely at the log I noticed an engine mismatch. Deleting that file fixed everything. This may have nothing to do with your case in particular, but just to say say that sometimes strange things like this do happen. See also http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20101118.171849.a179501b.en.html Many thanks, Idris, for your help. No mismatch found in my log file. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
Hi there, compiling this minimal file: \definepapersize[aa][width=2cm,height=1cm] \setuppapersize[aa] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \usemodule[simplefonts][size=12pt] \definesimplefont[amsmile][TeX Gyre Pagella] \starttext \TeX\ \amsmile \TeX \stoptext using This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011061416 (rev 4277) ConTeXt ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV fmt: 2011.8.1 int: english/english took system | total runtime: 144.057 Replacing the TeX Gyre Pagella font with small caps only takes system | total runtime: 6.753 I guess something is wrong here, even if I'm doing something wrong. Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
Am 06.12.2011 um 13:22 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez: Hi there, compiling this minimal file: \definepapersize[aa][width=2cm,height=1cm] \setuppapersize[aa] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \usemodule[simplefonts][size=12pt] \definesimplefont[amsmile][TeX Gyre Pagella] \starttext \TeX\ \amsmile \TeX \stoptext using This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011061416 (rev 4277) ConTeXt ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV fmt: 2011.8.1 int: english/english took system | total runtime: 144.057 Replacing the TeX Gyre Pagella font with small caps only takes system | total runtime: 6.753 I guess something is wrong here, even if I'm doing something wrong. The example takes here less than a second. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 12/06/2011 02:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Replacing the TeX Gyre Pagella font with small caps only takes system | total runtime: 6.753 The example takes here less than a second. My question would be then why in the normal case my system is ×7 slower? Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 6-12-2011 15:55, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: On 12/06/2011 02:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Replacing the TeX Gyre Pagella font with small caps only takes system | total runtime: 6.753 The example takes here less than a second. My question would be then why in the normal case my system is ×7 slower? you can see at the end of the log where the time is spent .. do you have a cache (for fonts and such)? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 6-12-2011 13:22, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: Hi there, compiling this minimal file: \definepapersize[aa][width=2cm,height=1cm] \setuppapersize[aa] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \usemodule[simplefonts][size=12pt] \definesimplefont[amsmile][TeX Gyre Pagella] \starttext \TeX\ \amsmile \TeX \stoptext using This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011061416 (rev 4277) ConTeXt ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV fmt: 2011.8.1 int: english/english took system | total runtime: 144.057 that can be because you ask for a font by name in which case the font name cache is regenerated ... so that happen seldom Replacing the TeX Gyre Pagella font with small caps only takes system | total runtime: 6.753 probably a first time caching of the font I guess something is wrong here, even if I'm doing something wrong. successive runs should be fast - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 12/06/2011 06:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 6-12-2011 13:22, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: Hi there, compiling this minimal file: \definepapersize[aa][width=2cm,height=1cm] \setuppapersize[aa] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \usemodule[simplefonts][size=12pt] \definesimplefont[amsmile][TeX Gyre Pagella] \starttext \TeX\ \amsmile \TeX \stoptext using This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011061416 (rev 4277) ConTeXt ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV fmt: 2011.8.1 int: english/english took system | total runtime: 144.057 that can be because you ask for a font by name in which case the font name cache is regenerated ... so that happen seldom Replacing the TeX Gyre Pagella font with small caps only takes system | total runtime: 6.753 probably a first time caching of the font When I update TeXLive 2011 invoking: tlmgr update --self --all after that I have to manually run: mtxrun --script fonts --reload if anything on the ConTeXt system has changed. Otherwise, things like this happen every time I compile a ConTeXt document. I guess there might be something wrong in tlmgr when updating ConTeXt, but this is beyond my knowledge. I guess something is wrong here, even if I'm doing something wrong. successive runs should be fast If I don't regenerate the font cache as above, I get this mess every time I compile a ConTeXt document invoking a system font by name. Thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 12/06/2011 06:14 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 6-12-2011 15:55, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: On 12/06/2011 02:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Replacing the TeX Gyre Pagella font with small caps only takes system | total runtime: 6.753 The example takes here less than a second. My question would be then why in the normal case my system is ×7 slower? you can see at the end of the log where the time is spent .. do you have a cache (for fonts and such)? I guess I have a font cache. I didn't configure anything, I use it as it comes with TeXLive 2011. I guess I have a font cache, because I use OS fonts with simplefonts. But the same should happen to Wolfgang (and I don't think that his computer is ×7 faster than my laptop). But the example doesn't load system fonts, only Latin Modern. Just in case you want to test my minimal sample: \definepapersize[aa][width=2cm,height=1cm] \setuppapersize[aa] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \starttext \TeX\ \sc\word\ \TeX \stoptext But I think that less than a second total compiling time is too fast only to load the ConTeXt macros. Thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
Am 06.12.2011 um 22:16 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez: Just in case you want to test my minimal sample: \definepapersize[aa][width=2cm,height=1cm] \setuppapersize[aa] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \starttext \TeX\ \sc\word\ \TeX \stoptext But I think that less than a second total compiling time is too fast only to load the ConTeXt macros. Why not, this is what I get from your example (time context test.tex): real0m0.922s user0m0.853s sys 0m0.061s Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 6-12-2011 22:29, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 06.12.2011 um 22:16 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez: Just in case you want to test my minimal sample: \definepapersize[aa][width=2cm,height=1cm] \setuppapersize[aa] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \starttext \TeX\ \sc\word\ \TeX \stoptext But I think that less than a second total compiling time is too fast only to load the ConTeXt macros. Why not, this is what I get from your example (time context test.tex): real0m0.922s user0m0.853s sys 0m0.061s and when loading another font (before \starttext) than latin roman it's even less Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
Hi pablo, On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:07:25 -0700, Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de wrote: Otherwise, things like this happen every time I compile a ConTeXt document. Once I had a luatex.dll file out of sync with the latest version of luatex -- don't ask me how it happened -- and it caused loading context macros to take much longer, to reload the cache every run, and to run more times than needed. Looking closely at the log I noticed an engine mismatch. Deleting that file fixed everything. This may have nothing to do with your case in particular, but just to say say that sometimes strange things like this do happen. See also http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20101118.171849.a179501b.en.html Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shīʿī Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] isn't it too slow?
On 6-12-2011 22:58, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Hi pablo, On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:07:25 -0700, Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de wrote: Otherwise, things like this happen every time I compile a ConTeXt document. Once I had a luatex.dll file out of sync with the latest version of luatex -- don't ask me how it happened -- and it caused loading context macros to take much longer, to reload the cache every run, and to run more times than needed. Looking closely at the log I noticed an engine mismatch. Deleting that file fixed everything. This may have nothing to do with your case in particular, but just to say say that sometimes strange things like this do happen. See also indeed, this happens because the mtxrun binary prefers the dll even if the exe is newer .. removing the dll is the solution then Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
