[NTG-context] placelist created by defineenumeration fails in numbered headings

[Youssef Cherem via ntg-context]

That pretty much sums it up: if I change \title to \chapter, for example,
the list is generated only if I set the option criterium=chapter, for
example. Is criterium really necessary in this case?

```

\defineenumeration [Exercício] [alternative=top, before=\blank,
after=\blank, between=\blank]


\defineenumeration [Título] [alternative=left, headcolor=darkcyan,
width=2cm, text={Título}, before=\blank, after=\blank, between=\blank]


\setuplabeltext[Exercise=Exercício~,Título=Título~]


\setuplist[Exercício][width=6em]


\starttext


\title{defineenumeration}


\subject{Lista de exercícios}

\placelist[Exercício][label=Exercise]


\subject{Lista de títulos}


\placelist[Título][label=Título]


\Exercício[title=Título do exercício] Um exercício


O mesmo exercício.



\Exercício Outro exercício com {\tt start ... stop}

\subExercício Um subexercício.

\startExercício Um exercício. \stopExercício

\startsubExercício Um subexercício. \stopsubExercício



\Título Título 1


\Título Título 2


\subTítulo sub-Título 1



\subTítulo sub-Título 2


\startTítulo


Agora vai.


\stopTítulo


\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist[chapter][counter=realpage] not working

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 4/11/20 2:53 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Pablo Rodriguez schrieb am 11.04.2020 um 13:54:
>> [...]
>> I really need that, since the document I’m composing needs chapter and
>> part page numbering independent from the whole document page numbering.
>>
>> Am I missing something or have I hit a bug?
>
> You can show the realpage value but there is no proper interface setting
> (e.g. \setuplist[chapter][pagenumber=realpage]) for this yet and I think
> it's better to do this.

Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.

In that case, which would be the way to get the realpage value?

Or is there any way to get a page counter that can be restarted, as
userpage is? (I already use subpage for other purposes.)

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist[chapter][counter=realpage] not working

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Pablo Rodriguez schrieb am 11.04.2020 um 13:54:

Dear list,

here you have the following sample:

 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \setupuserpagenumber[way=chapter]
 \starttext
 \placelist[chapter][counter=realpage]
 \dorecurse{5}{\chapter{Chapter}}
 \stoptext

Why doesn’t \placelist[chapter] use the realpage counter?

According to i-context.pdf, \placelist inherits from \setuplist (which
also inherits from \setupcounter).


While \setuplist inherits values from \setupcounter doesn't mean it 
supports all of them and keys like "counter" work only when you create a 
new instance which uses the counter of another instance, e.g. you create 
two enumerations but both of them share one counter.


Another problem is that you assume counter refers to the page value 
while it would make more sense to link it to the section value (or float 
number for figures or tables).



I really need that, since the document I’m composing needs chapter and
part page numbering independent from the whole document page numbering.

Am I missing something or have I hit a bug?


You can show the realpage value but there is no proper interface setting 
(e.g. \setuplist[chapter][pagenumber=realpage]) for this yet and I think 
it's better to do this.


Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] \placelist[chapter][counter=realpage] not working

[Pablo Rodriguez]

Dear list,

here you have the following sample:

\setuppapersize[A6]
\setupuserpagenumber[way=chapter]
\starttext
\placelist[chapter][counter=realpage]
\dorecurse{5}{\chapter{Chapter}}
\stoptext

Why doesn’t \placelist[chapter] use the realpage counter?

According to i-context.pdf, \placelist inherits from \setuplist (which
also inherits from \setupcounter).

I really need that, since the document I’m composing needs chapter and
part page numbering independent from the whole document page numbering.

Am I missing something or have I hit a bug?

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: [NTG-context] placelist not working in latest beta

[Schmitz Thomas A.]

> On 21 Mar 2016, at 15:28, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> when playign with some new feature i commented too much
> 
> around line 722, uncomment:
> 
> \setuplistalternative
>  [\c!command=\strictlistparameter\c!command,
>   \c!symbol=.]
> 
> 

Done, and it works again! Thanks Hans!

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] placelist not working in latest beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/21/2016 9:57 AM, Schmitz Thomas A. wrote:

Hi all,

example attached with output from latest beta and an older one. The \placelist 
command appears to have changed recently; the older beta I tested is from 
November, but this used to work in February as well, the change must be recent.


when playign with some new feature i commented too much

around line 722, uncomment:

\setuplistalternative
  [\c!command=\strictlistparameter\c!command,
   \c!symbol=.]




Thanks a lot

Thomas

\definelist[MyTopics][criterium=all]

\def\MyMark{}

\def\Topic%
   {\dosingleargument\doTopic}

\def\doTopic[#1]{%
   \gdef\MyMark{#1}%
   \writetolist[MyTopics][location=none]{#1}{}}

\define[3]\FancyEntry{%
   \doifelse{\rawstructurelistfirst}{\MyMark}%
 {\quad\color[red]{#1}\quad}
 {\quad #1\quad}}

\setuplist[MyTopics]
   [pagenumber=no,
alternative=command,
command=\FancyEntry]

\setupfootertexts [{\switchtobodyfont[8pt]\quad{\placelist[MyTopics]}}]

\starttext

\Topic[First]
\contextversion

First Topic

\page

\Topic[Second]

Second Topic

\page

\Topic[Third]

Third Topic

\stoptext



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[NTG-context] placelist not working in latest beta

[Schmitz Thomas A.]

Hi all,

example attached with output from latest beta and an older one. The \placelist 
command appears to have changed recently; the older beta I tested is from 
November, but this used to work in February as well, the change must be recent.

Thanks a lot

Thomas

\definelist[MyTopics][criterium=all]

\def\MyMark{}

\def\Topic%
  {\dosingleargument\doTopic}

\def\doTopic[#1]{%
  \gdef\MyMark{#1}%
  \writetolist[MyTopics][location=none]{#1}{}}

\define[3]\FancyEntry{%
  \doifelse{\rawstructurelistfirst}{\MyMark}%
{\quad\color[red]{#1}\quad}
{\quad #1\quad}}

\setuplist[MyTopics]
  [pagenumber=no,
   alternative=command,
   command=\FancyEntry]

\setupfootertexts [{\switchtobodyfont[8pt]\quad{\placelist[MyTopics]}}] 

\starttext

\Topic[First]
\contextversion

First Topic

\page

\Topic[Second]

Second Topic

\page

\Topic[Third]

Third Topic

\stoptext



2015_11_19.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


2016_03_13.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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[NTG-context] \placelist does not work

[DB]

In the current beta/nightly, \placelist has stopped working. Other 
parameters don't matter--the command just doesn't work, period.

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[NTG-context] \placelist summary alternative solution

[Felix Ingram]

I've ended up delving into the dark art that is Lua for this solution:

\define[0]\SummaryTable{%
\placetable[force, none]{}{%
\setupTABLE[frame=off]
\bTABLE
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH Reference\eTH\bTH Title\eTH\bTH Page\eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\startluacode
for k, v in ipairs(structures.lists.collected) do
if v.metadata.kind == section and v.metadata.name == section then
context.bTR()
context.bTD()
context(REFREF)
context.eTD()
context.bTD()
context(v.titledata.title)
context.eTD()
context.bTD()
context(v.references.realpage)
context.eTD()
context.eTR()
end
end
\stopluacode%
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
}%
}%
\starttext
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\SummaryTable
\stoptext

This works to some degree though I have the following questions about it:

1. Is there a way to access a document global variable from Lua? I
will use this to replace the REFREF text.

2. v.references.realpage isn't the actual page of the title. How can I
access the page number that would have appeared in the ToC? (I've
restarted the page numbering in my master doc, the above example works
fine)

3. Is there a way to store some metadata along with my title? I'd like
something similar to this:
\myheader[author=me, date=2011-12-14]{This is my header with meta-data}
and then be able to access it from Lua again.

Thanks for any help you can give with this.

Felix
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist summary alternative solution

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-12-2011 17:50, Felix Ingram wrote:

I've ended up delving into the dark art that is Lua for this solution:

\define[0]\SummaryTable{%
\placetable[force, none]{}{%
\setupTABLE[frame=off]
\bTABLE
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH Reference\eTH\bTH Title\eTH\bTH Page\eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\startluacode
 for k, v in ipairs(structures.lists.collected) do
 if v.metadata.kind == section and v.metadata.name == section then
 context.bTR()
 context.bTD()
 context(REFREF)
 context.eTD()
 context.bTD()
 context(v.titledata.title)
 context.eTD()
 context.bTD()
 context(v.references.realpage)
 context.eTD()
 context.eTR()
 end
 end
\stopluacode%
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
}%
}%
\starttext
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\SummaryTable
\stoptext

This works to some degree though I have the following questions about it:

1. Is there a way to access a document global variable from Lua? I
will use this to replace the REFREF text.


\startluacode

document.myvariables = { }

document.myvariables.whatever = SOME TEXT

\stopluacode

...

context(document.myvariables.whatever)


2. v.references.realpage isn't the actual page of the title. How can I
access the page number that would have appeared in the ToC? (I've
restarted the page numbering in my master doc, the above example works
fine)


as you're looking into the code ... search for helpers like

lists.prefixedpage

keep in mind that this is not yet an official api (although it will 
probably stay this way)





3. Is there a way to store some metadata along with my title? I'd like
something similar to this:
\myheader[author=me, date=2011-12-14]{This is my header with meta-data}
and then be able to access it from Lua again.


it's called userdata (third argument to \startchapter etc) .. it travels 
with the rest


Hans



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[NTG-context] \placelist and \writetolist

[Marco Pessotto]

Hello!

I can't understand what I'm doing wrong here:

%

\setuplist[mylist]
  [alternative=c,
width=0mm,
style=\tfx,
criterium=all]

\starttext

\placelist[mylist]

\page[yes]

\input knuth

\writetolist[mylist]{}{Item}

\stoptext
% 

The document compiles fine with version 2011.05.18 22:2, but it fails
miserably with the latest (2011.11.29 23:11)
! Missing number, treated as zero.

system   tex  error on line 11 in file prova.tex: Missing number, 
treated as zero ...

 1 \setuplist[mylist]
 2   [alternative=c,
 3 width=0mm,
 4 style=\tfx,
 5 criterium=all]
 6 
 7 
 8 \starttext
 9 
10 \placelist[mylist]
11   
12 \page[yes]
13 
14 \input knuth
15 
16 \writetolist[mylist]{}{Item}
17 
18 \stoptext

to be read again 
   ,
\doplacestructurelist ...um = #2, number = #3,
   extras = #4, order = #...
\doplacerawlist ...ras }{\listparameter \c!order }
  \stoplistreferences \endgr...
\doplacelist ...ginoflist \doplacerawlist [#1][#2]
  \doendoflist 
\dodoubleemptyonespaced #1#2-#1[{#2}][]
 
to be read again 
   \par 
l.11 
 
? H
A number should have been here; I inserted `0'.
(If you can't figure out why I needed to see a number,
look up `weird error' in the index to The TeXbook.)

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist and \writetolist

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 13.12.2011 um 11:41 schrieb Marco Pessotto:

 
 Hello!
 
 I can't understand what I'm doing wrong here:
 
 %
 
 \setuplist[mylist]
  [alternative=c,
width=0mm,
style=\tfx,
criterium=all]
 
 \starttext
 
 \placelist[mylist]
 
 \page[yes]
 
 \input knuth
 
 \writetolist[mylist]{}{Item}
 
 \stoptext
 % 
 
 The document compiles fine with version 2011.05.18 22:2, but it fails
 miserably with the latest (2011.11.29 23:11)

Replace \setuplist with \definelist, before you use a list you should create it.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist and \writetolist

[Marco Pessotto]

Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes:

 Replace \setuplist with \definelist, before you use a list you should create 
 it.

I knew I was missing something obvious...

Thanks a lot, it works.

Best wishes

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[NTG-context] \placelist after \chapter

[Felix Ingram]

Hi all,

I can't seem to get a list placed after a numbered heading. For example:

\starttext
\title{First one}
\placelist[chapter]
\chapter{Second one}
\placelist[chapter] % This won't be placed
\stoptext


Is this something I should be able to do? The reason I ask is that I'm
looking to generate a summary table in my document that will contain
information from my page titles. I'd like to have the heading title,
the page number and possibly some meta-info that I'm passing to my
custom command. (I'm planning on passing a custom command in the
\setuplist command). If it's not possible to \placelist's after
numbered headings then could someone suggest an alternative method?

Many thanks,

Felix
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist after \chapter

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 12.12.2011 um 13:04 schrieb Felix Ingram:

 Hi all,
 
 I can't seem to get a list placed after a numbered heading. For example:
 
 \starttext
 \title{First one}
 \placelist[chapter]
 \chapter{Second one}
 \placelist[chapter] % This won't be placed
 \stoptext
 
 
 Is this something I should be able to do? The reason I ask is that I'm
 looking to generate a summary table in my document that will contain
 information from my page titles. I'd like to have the heading title,
 the page number and possibly some meta-info that I'm passing to my
 custom command. (I'm planning on passing a custom command in the
 \setuplist command). If it's not possible to \placelist's after
 numbered headings then could someone suggest an alternative method?

You need \placelist[chapter][criterium=all].

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist after \chapter

[Felix Ingram]

Thanks Wolfgang - that works as expected. I'm trying to create a table
from the headings (as previously mentioned). Something like this:

\setuplist[chapter][criterium=all,alternative=command,command=\MySummaryTable,before={\setupTABLE[frame=on]\bTABLE\bTABLEbody},after={\eTABLEbody\eTABLE}]

\define[3]\MySummaryTable{\bTR\bTD #1 \eTD\bTD #2 \eTD\bTD #3 \eTD\eTR}

\starttext
\placecontent
\chapter{First one}
\chapter{Second one}
\chapter{Third one}
\chapter{Fourth one}
\chapter{Fifth one}
\placelist[chapter][criterium=all]
\stoptext

While the content gets placed it doesn't appear in a table. I also
notice that the same layout is used in the first \placecontent line.
In my final document I'd like to have my headings included as usual in
the table of contents but then have my own custom list appear as a
table later in the document. Is it possible to define a separate
format for a list that can be used outside of the ToC?

Felix
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Re: [NTG-context] placelist

[Willi Egger]

Hi Wolfgang,

On 4 Nov 2011, at 15:00, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 
 Am 04.11.2011 um 12:23 schrieb Willi Egger:
 
 Hi Pontus,
 
 thanks for your quick reply. I tried your suggestion, but there is no 
 success with it. …
 
 You need \placelist but you use \placecontent.

This makes indeed the difference. thanks a lot!

Willi
 
 Wolfgang
 
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[NTG-context] placelist

[Willi Egger]

Hi all,

it sound strange but how do I get a TOC where only the sections are placed but 
not the subsections?
The document contains exclusively sections and subsections.

With \placecontent[level=section] I get as well the sections as also the 
subsections. Looking at examples on the wiki I think this should be the right 
command?

Kind regards

Willi
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Re: [NTG-context] placelist

[Pontus Lurcock]

On Fri 04 Nov 2011, Willi Egger wrote:

 it sound strange but how do I get a TOC where only the sections are
 placed but not the subsections? The document contains exclusively
 sections and subsections. With \placecontent[level=section] I get as
 well the sections as also the subsections. Looking at examples on
 the wiki I think this should be the right command?

\placelist[section] should do what you want -- see
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg59165.html .

Pont
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Re: [NTG-context] placelist

[Willi Egger]

Hi Pontus,

thanks for your quick reply. I tried your suggestion, but there is no success 
with it. ...


test-TOC.tex
Description: Binary data


Kind regards

Willi

On 4 Nov 2011, at 09:12, Pontus Lurcock wrote:

 On Fri 04 Nov 2011, Willi Egger wrote:
 
 it sound strange but how do I get a TOC where only the sections are
 placed but not the subsections? The document contains exclusively
 sections and subsections. With \placecontent[level=section] I get as
 well the sections as also the subsections. Looking at examples on
 the wiki I think this should be the right command?
 
 \placelist[section] should do what you want -- see
 http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg59165.html .
 
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Re: [NTG-context] placelist

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.11.2011 um 12:23 schrieb Willi Egger:

 Hi Pontus,
 
 thanks for your quick reply. I tried your suggestion, but there is no success 
 with it. …

You need \placelist but you use \placecontent.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist

[Otared Kavian]

On 4 mai 09, at 18:09, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Hi Hans,

\placelist produce no output in mkiv.

\starttext

%\placelistoffigure
\completelistoffigures

here

\placefigure{dummy}{\framed{DUMMY}}

\stoptext

Wolfgang



Hi,

As a matter of fact, the above example of \placelist gives a LuaTeX  
error
(ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int: english/ 
english):


%%% begin console output
structure   : title @ level 2 : (0.0) . - \headtext {figures}
! LuaTeX error ...imal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua: 
502: attempt to index field 'sectiontitle' (a nil value)

stack traceback:
	...imal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-doc.lua:502: in  
function 'sectiontitle'
	...imal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-lst.lua:308: in  
function 'title'

main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.
\structurelistsectiontitle ...\currentlistindex )}

\listtextcommand #1-\begstrut #1
 \endstrut
argument ...tentry {\structurelistsectiontitle }
  }\egroup \ifdim \wd  
4=\zer...

\secondoftwoarguments #1#2-#2

\dosomelistelement ... 4\relax \relax \fi }\hss }}
  \endgraf  
\nointerlineskip ...

\dodolistelement ...ement {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}
  \global  
\utilitydonetrue

...
l.9

?
Process aborted
%%% end console output

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.05.2009 um 18:20 schrieb Otared Kavian:


Hi,

As a matter of fact, the above example of \placelist gives a LuaTeX  
error
(ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int: english/ 
english):


Make a update.

ConTeXt  ver: 2009.05.04 11:10 MKIV  fmt: 2009.5.4  int: english/english
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.0-2009050311 luatex.web = v2356

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist

[Otared Kavian]

On 4 mai 09, at 20:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:



Am 04.05.2009 um 18:20 schrieb Otared Kavian:


Hi,

As a matter of fact, the above example of \placelist gives a LuaTeX  
error
(ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int: english/ 
english):


Make a update.

ConTeXt  ver: 2009.05.04 11:10 MKIV  fmt: 2009.5.4  int: english/ 
english

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.0-2009050311 luatex.web = v2356

Wolfgang


Hi Wolfgang,

Indeed I need an update, but here is the dilemma… If I do an update,  
then I can't use my good old mkii with the latest Minimals: I get


 begin console ouput
 \write18 enabled.
 (/Volumes/OK-10.4/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'!
TeXExec | runtime: 0.074115
 end console ouput

However with mkiv and the latest Minimals I get the same result as you.

Best regards: OK
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[NTG-context] \placelist doesn't work in \startappendices

[Stuart Jansen]

When \placelist[section][criterium=local] is used inside of
\startappendices, no list is included. I don't see any error messages. I
scoured the docs but found neither indication that this is the desired
behavior nor any idea how to change this behavior. Any ideas?

\starttext
  \startbodymatter
 \chapter{Foo}
 \placelist[section][criterium=local,alternative=c]
   \section{Bar} \input knuth
  \stopbodymatter
  \startappendices
 \chapter{Corge} 
 \placelist[section][criterium=current,alternative=c]
   \section{Grault} \input zapf
  \stopappendices
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist doesn't work in \startappendices

[Taco Hoekwater]

Stuart Jansen wrote:
 When \placelist[section][criterium=local] is used inside of
 \startappendices, no list is included. I don't see any error messages. I
 scoured the docs but found neither indication that this is the desired
 behavior nor any idea how to change this behavior. Any ideas?

I remember having a similar problem, that was fixed a few months ago.

   \startappendices
  \chapter{Corge}
  \placelist[section][criterium=local,alternative=c]
\section{Grault} \input zapf
   \stopappendices

works for me, so my best advice is a context upgrade.
(maybe 'chapter' will work even in the old version).

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist doesn't work in \startappendices

[Stuart Jansen]

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 19:08 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Stuart Jansen wrote:
  When \placelist[section][criterium=local] is used inside of
  \startappendices, no list is included. I don't see any error messages. I
  scoured the docs but found neither indication that this is the desired
  behavior nor any idea how to change this behavior. Any ideas?
 
 I remember having a similar problem, that was fixed a few months ago.
 
\startappendices
   \chapter{Corge}
   \placelist[section][criterium=local,alternative=c]
 \section{Grault} \input zapf
\stopappendices
 
 works for me, so my best advice is a context upgrade.
 (maybe 'chapter' will work even in the old version).

How recent? I just tried it with the latest minimal, as well as
live.contextgarden.net and neither worked for me.

'chapter' only show me the chapter, not the sections. Unfortunately,
that's the exact opposite of what I'm hoping for.

$ texexec --version
TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist doesn't work in \startappendices

[Taco Hoekwater]

Stuart Jansen wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 19:08 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 
Stuart Jansen wrote:

When \placelist[section][criterium=local] is used inside of
\startappendices, no list is included. I don't see any error messages. I
scoured the docs but found neither indication that this is the desired
behavior nor any idea how to change this behavior. Any ideas?

I remember having a similar problem, that was fixed a few months ago.

   \startappendices
  \chapter{Corge}
  \placelist[section][criterium=local,alternative=c]
\section{Grault} \input zapf
   \stopappendices

works for me, so my best advice is a context upgrade.
(maybe 'chapter' will work even in the old version).
 
 How recent? I just tried it with the latest minimal, as well as
 live.contextgarden.net and neither worked for me.

Not _that_ recent. Strange, should have worked.

 'chapter' only show me the chapter, not the sections. Unfortunately,
 that's the exact opposite of what I'm hoping for.

oops, try 'section' then :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist doesn't work in \startappendices

[Stuart Jansen]

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 19:57 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Stuart Jansen wrote:
\startappendices
   \chapter{Corge}
   \placelist[section][criterium=local,alternative=c]
 \section{Grault} \input zapf
\stopappendices
 

  How recent? I just tried it with the latest minimal, as well as
  live.contextgarden.net and neither worked for me.
 
 Not _that_ recent. Strange, should have worked.

Okay, I guess that means it's a bug, not a feature. Hans: is this one
hairy enough that I should register it in the collector?

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist doesn't work in \startappendices

[Hans Hagen]

Stuart Jansen wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 19:57 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
   
 Stuart Jansen wrote:
 
   \startappendices
  \chapter{Corge}
  \placelist[section][criterium=local,alternative=c]
\section{Grault} \input zapf
   \stopappendices

 

   
 How recent? I just tried it with the latest minimal, as well as
 live.contextgarden.net and neither worked for me.
   
 Not _that_ recent. Strange, should have worked.
 
well, it depends ... i do get a one line toc between the chapter and 
section title

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist doesn't work in \startappendices

[Stuart Jansen]

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 23:49 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Stuart Jansen wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 19:57 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

  Stuart Jansen wrote:
  
\startappendices
   \chapter{Corge}
   \placelist[section][criterium=local,alternative=c]
 \section{Grault} \input zapf
\stopappendices
 
  
 

  How recent? I just tried it with the latest minimal, as well as
  live.contextgarden.net and neither worked for me.
  
 well, it depends ... i do get a one line toc between the chapter and 
 section title

What the?! I specifically checked using live.contexgarden.net to make
sure it wasn't a configuration problem on my side. I swear that line
wasn't there! It's a good thing 5pm just arrived, I obviously need a
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:


Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in 
the common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
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I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.



this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]


Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of 
struts (add description to tex-show)

- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET 
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the 
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another 
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be 
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.


example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

Vit


Hallo hans, thank you for your code. I find it in my mail box just today 
although it is 4 days old. So apologise me.


Unfortunately it seems to me it
A) does not work
   after successfull
  \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
   \MyListItem is not defined.
B) does not solve the problem with a single long line list alternative.

But. Your example discovered me there are few more alternative in 
\setuplist (except a..f, none):


horizontal
vertical
command

So your example leads me to find the solution. I still do not know how 
to insert interaction to page number inside \MyListCommand. I have tried

\def\MyListCommand#1#2#3{%
  #1-#2-%
  \setbox0\hbox{#3}% \showcontrastlocation\??ia{??}{#3}}%
  \linklisttoelement{subsection}{??}{#3}{\box0}%
  )}
}
but I am puzzled by \linklisttoelement parameters.

Thnak ones more
Vit


Solution:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[part]

[style=\bfb,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand,before=\blank,after=\endgraf]
\setuplist[chapter]

[style=\bfb,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand,before=\blank,after=\endgraf]
\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfa,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand]
\def\MyListCommand#1#2#3{%
  \listparameter{before}%
  {\listparameter{style}(#1-#2-#3)}\hskip1em plus.5em minus.5em
  \listparameter{after}%
}

\starttext
\writetolist[part]{1}{Part 1}
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{Chapter 1}
\writetolist[section]{1}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{2}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{3}{Another list line}
\expanded{\writetolist[section]{}{And the last line.}}
\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Chapter 2}
\writetolist[section]{1}{Section 1}

\lineskiplimit=-\maxdimen
Line\par
Another line of \v Sejba\par

\placecontent

\strut
After list.

\stoptext
---




\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=none,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank,
  command=\MyListItem]

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=command
  command=\MyListItem]

in core-lst you can see how the alternatives are defined
ok, let's give you a bonus (goes in cont-new):
\unprotect
\def\definelistplacement
 {\dodoubleempty\dodefinelistplacement}

\def\dodefinelistplacement[#1][#2]%
 {\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement#1}%
{\doifelsenothing{#2}
   {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}%
   {\executeifdefined{\@@dodolistelement#2}
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}}%
\setvalue{\??li\currentlist\c!command}%
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}}%
  

Re: [Fwd: Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?]

[Hans Hagen]

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello,

I was perhaps little descriptive in my last question. Let me discribe 
my real problem:


you can explitly snap:

\showgrid
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\snaptogrid\vbox{\bf \setstrut \strut test}
\snaptogrid[line]\vbox{\bfa \setstrut \strut test}
\snaptogrid[line]\vbox{\bfa \setstrut \strut test 1\endgraf test 2}
\snaptogrid\vbox{\sl \setstrut \strut test}



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[Vit Zyka]

Hello,

I was perhaps little descriptive in my last question. Let me discribe my 
real problem:


I'd like to typeset a table of content as follows:
--

Part 1

Chapter 1
Section 1Section 2Section3
Section with longer name 4Section 5
Section 6

Chapter 2
Section 1   Section 2...


---
Everything has to be on the grid. Problem is that 'Part 1' and 'Chapter 
1' are typeset with bigger font (\bfa and \tfa respectively). And grid 
is too tight to fit \bfa/\tfa struts. But the character size is 
optically OK even preserving grid due to blank lines around bigger font. 
I do not want to use \placetogrid in this case since AFAIK it adds one 
blank line more.


Solution: not to add struts to list items and set 
\lineskiplimit=-\maxdimen. I discovered that there is alternative 'none' 
that does not place struts. The only problem is that 'none' create one 
long line like

---
Section 1Section 2Section3 Section with longer name 4Section 
5Section6

---
oversized \textwidth.

So the question is:
  How to typeset list items to paragraph without struts?

Minimal test code is bellow.

Thank you for replay
Vit


Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.




this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]


Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of
struts (add description to tex-show)
- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.

example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

Vit


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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

[Hans Hagen]

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:


Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in 
the common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.





this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]



Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of 
struts (add description to tex-show)

- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET 
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the 
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another 
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be 
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.


example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

Vit


\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=none,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank,
  command=\MyListItem]

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=command
  command=\MyListItem]

in core-lst you can see how the alternatives are defined 

ok, let's give you a bonus (goes in cont-new): 

\unprotect 


\def\definelistplacement
 {\dodoubleempty\dodefinelistplacement}

\def\dodefinelistplacement[#1][#2]%
 {\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement#1}%
{\doifelsenothing{#2}
   {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}%
   {\executeifdefined{\@@dodolistelement#2}
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}}%
\setvalue{\??li\currentlist\c!command}%
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}}%
  \setvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}

\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }

\protect 

now you can say: 


\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=MyListItem,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank]

(btw, watch how one can ask for listparameters)  


\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=MyListItem,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank]

\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{before}
  \listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) 
  \listparameter{after}}




Hans 
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.




this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]


Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of 
struts (add description to tex-show)

- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET 
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the 
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another 
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be 
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.


example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

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[NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

[Vit Zyka]

Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line setting, 
I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.

Can somebody help me, please?
vit
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

[Hans Hagen]

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.



this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]

you can change that (as long as it adds up to 1.0) 

Hans 


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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist is influensed by \completeregister ??

[Vit Zyka]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Dear Hans, Taco, ...

I noticed strange behaviour. When I use \completeregister lists I have 
defined are ignored:



Your post is a specific example of a more generic truth:

  new lists are by default influenced by the sectioning commands

The solution is to disable that influence, like so:

  \definelist[somelist][criterium=all]

Otherwise you get only the entries defined within the 'Letter'
section, and (in this case) there are none.


Ahhh, now I understand parameter criterium. Thank you Taco for 
explanation. I added some notes/example about to texshow/setuplist.


vit
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist is influensed by \completeregister ??

[Taco Hoekwater]

Vit Zyka wrote:

Dear Hans, Taco, ...

I noticed strange behaviour. When I use \completeregister lists I have 
defined are ignored:


Your post is a specific example of a more generic truth:

  new lists are by default influenced by the sectioning commands

The solution is to disable that influence, like so:

  \definelist[somelist][criterium=all]

Otherwise you get only the entries defined within the 'Letter'
section, and (in this case) there are none.

Cheers, Taco
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[NTG-context] \placelist is influensed by \completeregister ??

[Vit Zyka]

Dear Hans, Taco, ...

I noticed strange behaviour. When I use \completeregister lists I have 
defined are ignored:


--
\defineregister[letter][letters]
\definelist[somelist]

\starttext
  Hello! \letter{Letter S}
  \writetolist[somelist]{List entry, part A}{List entry, part B}
  %\placeregister[letter]
  \completeregister[letter]
  \placelist[somelist]
\stoptext
-
I discovered that the source of the bug is probably \headtext the line
\expanded{\systemsuppliedchapter[\currentregister]{\noexpand\headtext{\currentregister}}}%

in the \completeregister definition. Please can somebody have a look on it?
vit

--
\unprotect
\def\docompleteregister[#1][#2]%
  {\iffirstargument
 \begingroup
 \edef\currentregister{#1}%
 % the expansion is needed because we don't want \v!'s in the tuo 
file (french)
% 
\expanded{\systemsuppliedchapter[\currentregister]{\noexpand\headtext{\currentregister}}}%

 \placeregister[\currentregister][#2]%
 \page[\v!yes]%
 \endgroup
   \fi}
\protect


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