Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-03-02 Thread Hans Hagen
Mats Broberg wrote: - make inter-column spacing a bit bigger/smaller - make page slightly larger/smaller - increse/decrease bodyfont size - etc the problem is that one can end up in oscillating Hans Wouldn't it be possible to use something like \ballast, in the way it is used in the ledmac package

RE: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-03-02 Thread Mats Broberg
> - make inter-column spacing a bit bigger/smaller > - make page slightly larger/smaller > - increse/decrease bodyfont size > - etc > > the problem is that one can end up in oscillating > > Hans Wouldn't it be possible to use something like \ballast, in the way it is used in the ledmac package f

RE: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-28 Thread Mats Broberg
> Hej Mats! > > I would like to recommend the interesting document > > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/style.pdf > > Mvh, Micke P > > PS > Fun to see another swede here on the list > DS Thanks - I knew about that manual already. Best regards, Mats Broberg P.S. Likewise...! D.S. _

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-28 Thread h h extern
Mats Broberg wrote: Btw, here are a few 'Typographical Dreams' of mine, regarding ConTeXt: - Penalty if consecutive lines have the same words typeset exactly above each other - e.g. in the beginning of a line, in the middle of the line etc. Catches your eye. since it has to do with extending tex ..

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-28 Thread Mikael Persson
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:54:07 +0100, Mats Broberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear listmembers, > > I would say that the risk of getting rivers in text typeset using TeX & > children is minimum, as long as you choose sensible values for typesize > and column width. And much, much less than in MS W

RE: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-28 Thread Mats Broberg
Dear listmembers, I would say that the risk of getting rivers in text typeset using TeX & children is minimum, as long as you choose sensible values for typesize and column width. And much, much less than in MS Word, InDesign, QuarkXPress etc. Btw, here are a few 'Typographical Dreams' of mine, r

RE: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread Mats Broberg
Ciro A. Soto wrote: > The knowlegeable John Culleton said in one of the > lists that he could recognize if a book was typeset > with > MS-word by looking at the "rivers" and the lack of > hyphenation. I then checked my 310-page book I am > typesetting with context and not a single line had a > hyp

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Try this: \showhyphens{hyphenation} It should print Underfull \hbox (badness 1) in paragraph at lines 2--2 [] \*10ptrmtf* hy-phen-ation on your terminal. If it doesn't, ConTeXt refuses the hyphenate English, possibly because the patterns were not loaded in the format (

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-27 Thread h h extern
Ciro A. Soto wrote: The knowlegeable John Culleton said in one of the lists that he could recognize if a book was typeset with MS-word by looking at the "rivers" and the lack of but tex is *not* avoiding rivers, since it does not look at it -) hyphenation. I then checked my 310-page book I am types

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Ciro A. Soto wrote: Thank you Taco, this is what I get. I got a *similar* line to what you sent, but not the same. Is it ok? ciro looks fine, so perhaps you have disabled hyphenation by using something like \setuptolerance[verytolerant], or they were truly unnecesary (it is possible) Taco _

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-26 Thread Ciro A. Soto
Thank you Taco, this is what I get. I got a *similar* line to what you sent, but not the same. Is it ok? ciro linux% tex This is TeXk, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.3) \write18 enabled. %&-line parsing enabled. **\showhyphens{hyphenation} kpathsea: Running mktexfmt tex.fmt running `tex -ini -job

Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Ciro A. Soto wrote: So, my question is: Is it okay? or do I need to set any parameter to allow hyphenation? I do have \tolerance=1, because I don't like lines longer than the rest, but I thought I could still get some hyphenated words. Am I right? Yes, you are right. Assuming you do not have v

RE: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-26 Thread Mats Broberg
Ciro, >From a purely typographical point of view, a hyphenated word is always better than excessive space between words in a line (which is more discernable to the eye). However, depending on column width, the language the text is typeset in, and the algorithm that is used for hyphenation & just