Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-21 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 22:41 +0100, luigi scarso wrote: As I said earlier, I get a segmentation fault if I leave it to run, but I always have to kill it before it takes down the entire operating system with it (apparently this is normal). I don't get the TeX capacity exceeded error message,

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Am 20.03.2012 um 06:49 schrieb Kip Warner: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:49:48PM -0700, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it went about doing it. It should not have to take

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 08:21:35AM +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Am 20.03.2012 um 06:49 schrieb Kip Warner: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 16:57 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: Older TeX engines had hard memory limit, so in case of such syntactical errors the engine would consume all its allocated memory and die (with a misleading error message), LuaTeX dynamically allocates memory (for good reasons) so it won't

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 20-3-2012 19:59, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 16:57 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: Older TeX engines had hard memory limit, so in case of such syntactical errors the engine would consume all its allocated memory and die (with a misleading error message), LuaTeX dynamically allocates

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:26 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: well you can try what happens if you run stock lua: local t = { } while true do t[#t+1] = just a bogus string: .. (#t+1) end at some point your system will run out of (virtual) memory or lua will run out of whatever its limits

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:26 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: well you can try what happens if you run stock lua: local t = { } while true do      t[#t+1] = just a bogus string: .. (#t+1) end at some point your system will run

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 20-3-2012 20:59, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:26 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: well you can try what happens if you run stock lua: local t = { } while true do t[#t+1] = just a bogus string: .. (#t+1) end at some point your system will run out of (virtual) memory or lua will

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 21:39 +0100, luigi scarso wrote: When TeX says ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=...] it is its graceful way to exit from an irreversible situation. It can be caused by luatex or ConTeXt mkiv but it's *not* a segmentation fault, as you said early:

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 21:44 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: sure, but mu experience is that browsers of email clients are way more demanding than tex when it comes to memory usage I've never had either take down the entire operating system. There is a different from intended memory usage and

Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 21:39 +0100, luigi scarso wrote: When  TeX says ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=...] it is its graceful way to exit from  an irreversible situation. It can be caused by luatex or