Re: [NTG-context] \textcomma (was Re: Comma separating multiple footnotes)
On 20-4-2012 00:11, Aditya Mahajan wrote: The case with , (comma) is more tricky. Normally, in plain TeX comma is defined as punctuation. But since comma is used as a separator in Europe, ConTeXt deos something smart based on the setting of autopunction. I don't completely understand how that works. lua magic (Later this year I want to follow up on domain specific rendering, so that one can switch to (say) 'logic' and get spacing suitable for that. Not too hard to do as long as we have char-def up-to-date.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \textcomma (was Re: Comma separating multiple footnotes)
On 19-4-2012 21:06, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Don’t use \textcomma in MkIV, it’s a math symbol and doesn’t scale
when you change the relative font size.
\starttext
a, b\textcomma\ c
{\tfxx a, b\textcomma\ c}
{\tfb a, b\textcomma\ c}
\stoptext
@Hans/Aditya: Is it a good idea to put “textcomma” in the mathspec
entry (char-def.lua):
indeed, it's probably some leftover (there might be some more)
What is textcomma supposed to do? I see that it is defined and used in
core-mis.mkiv and then redefined in char-def.
My guess is that \textcomma and \textperiod were defined to be
complementary to \mathcomma and \mathperiod, but this is not consistent
with rest of the naming convention. (\text... begin text mode commands
for symbols, and not math mode commands).
Does anyone use \textcomma and \textperiod in math mode? I would suggest
that we rename them to \puncuationcomma and \punctuationperiod, and add
\textcomma and \textperiod as text mode commands (and remove the
definition of \textcomma from core-mis)
the \text* should be just . and , (no math)
I have no clue about the math usage. Just tell me what to patch.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] \textcomma (was Re: Comma separating multiple footnotes)
Am 19.04.2012 um 22:31 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 19-4-2012 21:06, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Don’t use \textcomma in MkIV, it’s a math symbol and doesn’t scale
when you change the relative font size.
\starttext
a, b\textcomma\ c
{\tfxx a, b\textcomma\ c}
{\tfb a, b\textcomma\ c}
\stoptext
@Hans/Aditya: Is it a good idea to put “textcomma” in the mathspec
entry (char-def.lua):
indeed, it's probably some leftover (there might be some more)
What is textcomma supposed to do? I see that it is defined and used in
core-mis.mkiv and then redefined in char-def.
My guess is that \textcomma and \textperiod were defined to be
complementary to \mathcomma and \mathperiod, but this is not consistent
with rest of the naming convention. (\text... begin text mode commands
for symbols, and not math mode commands).
Does anyone use \textcomma and \textperiod in math mode? I would suggest
that we rename them to \puncuationcomma and \punctuationperiod, and add
\textcomma and \textperiod as text mode commands (and remove the
definition of \textcomma from core-mis)
the \text* should be just . and , (no math)
I have no clue about the math usage. Just tell me what to patch.
Is there a reason the make them into math commands, I think it’s better the
define them
as “contextname=…” to let them behave as in MkII where \textcomma is defined as
enco-def.mkii:\definecharacter textcomma ,
enco-def.mkii:\definecharacter textperiod.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \textcomma (was Re: Comma separating multiple footnotes)
On 19-4-2012 22:59, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Is there a reason the make them into math commands, I think it’s better the define them as “contextname=…” to let them behave as in MkII where \textcomma is defined as enco-def.mkii:\definecharacter textcomma , enco-def.mkii:\definecharacter textperiod. indeed, so what about math - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \textcomma (was Re: Comma separating multiple footnotes)
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 19-4-2012 22:59, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Is there a reason the make them into math commands, I think it’s better the
define them
as “contextname=…” to let them behave as in MkII where \textcomma is
defined as
enco-def.mkii:\definecharacter textcomma ,
enco-def.mkii:\definecharacter textperiod.
indeed, so what about math
I don't think that these are needed in math. We can simply delete lines
443-445 from char-def:
{
class=punctuation,
name=textperiod,
},
and add
contextname=textperiod,
The case with , (comma) is more tricky. Normally, in plain TeX comma is
defined as punctuation. But since comma is used as a separator in Europe,
ConTeXt deos something smart based on the setting of autopunction. I don't
completely understand how that works.
If autopunction is ignored, then we simply need to map , to punctuation. I
think that the definition of mathcomma can also be deleted. Thus, we can
simply delete lines 408 onwards:
mathspec={
{
class=punctuation,
name=textcomma,
},
{
class=ord,
name=mathcomma,
},
},
Full patch:
@@ -404,17 +404,8 @@
description=COMMA,
direction=cs,
linebreak=is,
+ contextname=textcomma,
mathclass=punctuation,
- mathspec={
- {
-class=punctuation,
-name=textcomma,
- },
- {
-class=ord,
-name=mathcomma,
- },
- },
unicodeslot=0x002C,
},
{
@@ -434,6 +425,7 @@
description=FULL STOP,
direction=cs,
linebreak=is,
+ contextname=textperiod,
mathclass=ord,
mathspec={
{
@@ -442,10 +434,6 @@
},
{
class=punctuation,
-name=textperiod,
- },
- {
-class=punctuation,
name=ldotp,
},
},
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