Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
Am 16.09.2010 um 00:34 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? Taco showed at the conference a way to modify the values of a font and i think you can use this. A easier solution is to use the real Times fonts instead of the TeX Gyre version, Times New Roman is available as part of the basic web fonts and AFAIR many linux distros provide a mechanism to download them. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.09.2010 um 00:34 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? Taco showed at the conference a way to modify the values of a font and i think you can use this. Are the reference slides or code available. I could not find any in the context meeting slides. A easier solution is to use the real Times fonts instead of the TeX Gyre version, Times New Roman is available as part of the basic web fonts and AFAIR many linux distros provide a mechanism to download them. Of course. I don't know why this did not occur to me. (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:51:58AM -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.09.2010 um 00:34 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? Taco showed at the conference a way to modify the values of a font and i think you can use this. Are the reference slides or code available. I could not find any in the context meeting slides. A easier solution is to use the real Times fonts instead of the TeX Gyre version, Times New Roman is available as part of the basic web fonts and AFAIR many linux distros provide a mechanism to download them. Of course. I don't know why this did not occur to me. (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Actually it is the real times, but Linotype registered the name Times Roman in USA before Monotype (the designers of the font) and Monotype had to use Times New Roman instead. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Actually, it is the original. See Walter Tracy's wonderful book _Letters of Credit_ for one view of the details, and a follow-up article published in the APHA journal for the balance of the story. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, William Adams wrote: On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Actually, it is the original. See Walter Tracy's wonderful book _Letters of Credit_ for one view of the details, and a follow-up article published in the APHA journal for the balance of the story. William and Khaled, thanks. I did not know this. Most interesting. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/a/a7/Eurotex06he.pdf Thanks Luigi, very informative. Should have been called PDF for dummies or something :) Yes, I remember Hartmut saying that he didn't like the name :-) Probably he, as LuaTeX developer, saw this as explaining how to “make better PDF” rather than simply explaining the internals to the layman. He had a printed copy of the PDF reference that he showed after the talk, and for some reason I ended up carrying it around during the whole evening :-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:13:43PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Peter Rolf wrote: Am 16.09.2010 13:12, schrieb Patrick Gundlach: Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? It sounds like a trademark infringement to me. I would be surprised if times is not a ®. sadly true... Sigh...Thanks for the clarification. Better try to convince the customer that a rose is a rose... ;-) I am still interested in changing the name of the font...not to Times but to some gibberish (like the characters that pdftex adds before Type1 font names). Then, I can blame the font naming on a software limitation ;) Output an uncompressed PDF, open in a text editor, search for the font name and replace it, but you will need to fix xref after that (no idea what xref is, but pdclean from mupdf fixs it) -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Output an uncompressed PDF, open in a text editor, search for the font name and replace it, but you will need to fix xref after that (no idea what xref is, http://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/a/a7/Eurotex06he.pdf -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 02:07:07PM +0200, luigi scarso wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Output an uncompressed PDF, open in a text editor, search for the font name and replace it, but you will need to fix xref after that (no idea what xref is, http://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/a/a7/Eurotex06he.pdf Thanks Luigi, very informative. Should have been called PDF for dummies or something :) -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
Am 16.09.2010 22:13, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Peter Rolf wrote: Am 16.09.2010 13:12, schrieb Patrick Gundlach: Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? It sounds like a trademark infringement to me. I would be surprised if times is not a ®. sadly true... Sigh...Thanks for the clarification. Better try to convince the customer that a rose is a rose... ;-) I am still interested in changing the name of the font...not to Times but to some gibberish (like the characters that pdftex adds before Type1 font names). Then, I can blame the font naming on a software limitation ;) :-D (untested) http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/fontinfo.html Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
Am 16.09.2010 00:34, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? Afaik the name is directly taken from the font (part of its resources). Should be no problem to change this attribute with fontforge. See http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre#Licensing for the licensing conditions. At first glance there should be no problems (but better read the whole license). [..] The freedoms granted by GFL include the free use of the fonts for whatever purpose you wish. You can also take the fonts and modify them for your own use or redistribution, but to avoid confusion in such a case you are requested to change the name(s) of the font(s) and comprising files—please follow the guidance of the license. Best wishes, Peter - Rose is a rose is a rose is a rose. (Gertrude Stein) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? It sounds like a trademark infringement to me. I would be surprised if times is not a ®. Patrick ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
Am 16.09.2010 13:12, schrieb Patrick Gundlach: Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? It sounds like a trademark infringement to me. I would be surprised if times is not a ®. sadly true... http://www.linotype.com/259/times.html also Times® in this document http://image.linotype.com/samples/hirespdf/13450.pdf Better try to convince the customer that a rose is a rose... ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Peter Rolf wrote: Am 16.09.2010 13:12, schrieb Patrick Gundlach: Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? It sounds like a trademark infringement to me. I would be surprised if times is not a ®. sadly true... Sigh...Thanks for the clarification. Better try to convince the customer that a rose is a rose... ;-) I am still interested in changing the name of the font...not to Times but to some gibberish (like the characters that pdftex adds before Type1 font names). Then, I can blame the font naming on a software limitation ;) Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
