Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Hi all, On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Michail Vidiassov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Zhichu Chen wrote: If I want to embed the .prc file into a pdf document, all I need to do is specify the correct /Subtype and mime type. That's very easy. I think creating 3D presentations without any commercial or mouse- clicking-GUI interface becomes realistic now. No, there is more - you have to set appearance (may be empty). And many nice things can be done via properties of the 3D object embedded into PDF. Consult latest PDF reference. Oh, yea, I don't know that, no wonder my output doesn't look good. You may look at libharu U3D code (it handles PRC too) and my embedder (it needs libconfig from http://www.hyperrealm.com/libconfig/ and libharu from libharu.org) from http://www.iaas.msu.ru/tmp/u3dembedder.tgz Thanks, I'll study on that. Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Best Regards Chen Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Dear All, On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Zhichu Chen wrote: If I want to embed the .prc file into a pdf document, all I need to do is specify the correct /Subtype and mime type. That's very easy. I think creating 3D presentations without any commercial or mouse- clicking-GUI interface becomes realistic now. No, there is more - you have to set appearance (may be empty). And many nice things can be done via properties of the 3D object embedded into PDF. Consult latest PDF reference. You may look at libharu U3D code (it handles PRC too) and my embedder (it needs libconfig from http://www.hyperrealm.com/libconfig/ and libharu from libharu.org) from http://www.iaas.msu.ru/tmp/u3dembedder.tgz Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Hi, all, It's me again. Since Asymptote 1.44 has been released, I don't have to compile it myself. So I played a little bit and find out that if I don't want labels nor produce a pdf format of that image, I can live without LaTeX. That's kind of a good news. If I want to embed the .prc file into a pdf document, all I need to do is specify the correct /Subtype and mime type. That's very easy. I think creating 3D presentations without any commercial or mouse- clicking-GUI interface becomes realistic now. -- Best Regards Chen Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Hi Michail, It's a little late for me to check my mailbox. Thank you for your work and yes, I'm interested in it. Can I get a copy of it? On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Michail Vidiassov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, And how to embed .prc files into the .pdf document? I have made a standalone embedder some time ago, reproducing capabilities of movie15 LeTeX package and somewhat extending them. If anybody is interested it can be put in shipable state. Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Best Regards Chen Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Hi Yue, On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Yue Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Zhichu: $n$ years ago ($n\geq 2$), some user had successfully embed a u3d format file into pdf using ConTeXt with the instruction from Hans. I think the module is still there. Maybe you can have a look. In fact u3d and prc are similar, maybe you can try the same way. But I have no idea how to create a asy-tex interface like tex-mp [Moreover, I prefer to extend mp to 3-dimension, I look at the c code, it is not impossible:)]. Yes, I know that Renaud Aubin has u3d usable by ConTeXt. That's very impressive. I will check that if I can get Asymptote compiled and work with ConTeXt, although I don't think that necessary because labeled figures often appears in 2D version. If metapost could provide 3D figures, that will be great. But I don't think Hans and Taco like that idea because prc isn't a standard yet maybe. Yue Wang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- Best Regards Chen Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Dear All, And how to embed .prc files into the .pdf document? I have made a standalone embedder some time ago, reproducing capabilities of movie15 LeTeX package and somewhat extending them. If anybody is interested it can be put in shipable state. Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
On 2008-09-28 04:35 Zhichu Chen wrote: It is said that Asymptote has supported PRC format 3D file: http://asymptote.sourceforge.net/gallery/3D%20graphs/ I really wanna give it a try, but once I was building from the svn source, I was told that I don't have LaTeX in my $PATH. I haven't really been using LaTeX for a long time, and I prefer I don't need to install a bunch of LaTeX programs and packages just for a drawing program which, IMHO, only use LaTeX to make nice labels. Is there any workarounds? And how to embed .prc files into the .pdf document? -- Best Regards Chen This doesn't really answer your question but may be of some related interest to the mailing list. I am quite fond of pfg/tikz as a drawing package that works rather well with plain tex, latex and context. Asymptote is a similar tool, but it seems to be less portable. However, it appears on the other hand to be much more powerful for 3D. Neverless, I am sharing with this context list an impressive tikz example -- Alan Braslau CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC CNRS URA 2464 Orme des Merisiers 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15 fax: +33 1 69 08 87 86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-dna2006.cea.fr/ .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- that I have adapted to context. (I have put the author on copy.) Basically, the only changes to the latex source are \usepackage{preview} - \startTEXpage \stopTEXpage \begin{tikzpicture} - \starttikzpicture and a few other minor syntax adaptations...) Alan % What is it % == % % Examples inspired by the thread at comp.text.tex about how to convert some hand % drawn pictures into programmatic 3D sketches: % http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/a03baf5d6fa64865/f7e7b903f1d87a6a % The sketches present stereographic and cylindrical map projections and they % pose some interesting challenges for doing them with a 2D drawing package PGF/TikZ. % % The main idea is to draw in selected 3D planes and then project onto the canvas % coordinate system with an appriopriate transformation. Some highlights: % [*] usage of pgf math engine for calculation of projection transformations and % transitions points from visible (solid lines) to invisible (dashed lines) on % meridians and latitude circles % [*] definition of 3D plane transformation with expanded styles so that they are robust % against redefinition of macros used in their construction % [*] usage of named coordinates (nodes) for definition of characteristic points in % local coordinate systems so that they are accessible outside of their plane of % definition % [*] calculation of intersections points with TikZ intersection coordinate system % [*] usage of 'to' path operation instead of 'arc' for marking angles to allow for % easy positioning of text labels on the curve % [*] 3D lighting effects with shading % % % Who's done it % = % % Tomasz M. Trzeciak % % % Distribution and use % % % Use as you see fit. Consider giving a proper attribution to the author. % % % Change log % == % % 2008/08/07 posted to latex-community.org % 2008/08/08 fixed some typos, added note about 'to' path operation to the description, % fixed positioning issue of nodes and 'to' path operation as suggested % by Kjell, removed some dead code from KART picture % 2008/09/28 adapted as an example to ConTeXt \usemodule[tikz] \usetikzlibrary[calc,fadings,decorations.pathreplacing] %% helper macros \def\pgfmathsinandcos#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsetmacro#1{sin(#3)}% \pgfmathsetmacro#2{cos(#3)}% } \def\LongitudePlane#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsinandcos\sinEl\cosEl{#2} % elevation \pgfmathsinandcos\sint\cost{#3} % azimuth \tikzset{#1/.estyle={cm={\cost,\sint*\sinEl,0,\cosEl,(0,0)}}} } \def\LatitudePlane#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsinandcos\sinEl\cosEl{#2} % elevation \pgfmathsinandcos\sint\cost{#3} % latitude \pgfmathsetmacro\yshift{\cosEl*\sint} \tikzset{#1/.estyle={cm={\cost,0,0,\cost*\sinEl,(0,\yshift)}}} % } \def\DrawLongitudeCircle#1#2{ \LongitudePlane{current plane}{\angEl}{#2} \tikzset{current plane/.prefix style={scale=#1}} % angle of visibility \pgfmathsetmacro\angVis{atan(sin(#2)*cos(\angEl)/sin(\angEl))} % \draw[current plane] (\angVis:1) arc (\angVis:\angVis+180:1); \draw[current plane,dashed] (\angVis-180:1) arc (\angVis-180:\angVis:1); } \def\DrawLatitudeCircle#1#2{ \LatitudePlane{current plane}{\angEl}{#2} \tikzset{current plane/.prefix style={scale=#1}} \pgfmathsetmacro\sinVis{sin(#2)/cos(#2)*sin(\angEl)/cos(\angEl)} % angle of visibility \pgfmathsetmacro\angVis{asin(min(1,max(\sinVis,-1)))} \draw[current plane] (\angVis:1) arc (\angVis:-\angVis-180:1); \draw[current plane,dashed] (180-\angVis:1) arc (180-\angVis:\angVis:1); } %% document-wide tikz options and styles \tikzset{% =latex, % option for nice arrows inner sep=0pt,% outer sep=2pt,% mark
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Hi, Alan Thank you for your attention, but I don't need the psedu-3D effect. Asymptote could create real 3D file which pdf has supported since, maybe, version 1.5. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan BRASLAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-09-28 04:35 Zhichu Chen wrote: It is said that Asymptote has supported PRC format 3D file: http://asymptote.sourceforge.net/gallery/3D%20graphs/ I really wanna give it a try, but once I was building from the svn source, I was told that I don't have LaTeX in my $PATH. I haven't really been using LaTeX for a long time, and I prefer I don't need to install a bunch of LaTeX programs and packages just for a drawing program which, IMHO, only use LaTeX to make nice labels. Is there any workarounds? And how to embed .prc files into the .pdf document? -- Best Regards Chen This doesn't really answer your question but may be of some related interest to the mailing list. I am quite fond of pfg/tikz as a drawing package that works rather well with plain tex, latex and context. Asymptote is a similar tool, but it seems to be less portable. However, it appears on the other hand to be much more powerful for 3D. Neverless, I am sharing with this context list an impressive tikz example -- Alan Braslau CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC CNRS URA 2464 Orme des Merisiers 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15 fax: +33 1 69 08 87 86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-dna2006.cea.fr/ .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- that I have adapted to context. (I have put the author on copy.) Basically, the only changes to the latex source are \usepackage{preview} - \startTEXpage \stopTEXpage \begin{tikzpicture} - \starttikzpicture and a few other minor syntax adaptations...) Alan % What is it % == % % Examples inspired by the thread at comp.text.tex about how to convert some hand % drawn pictures into programmatic 3D sketches: % http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/a03baf5d6fa64865/f7e7b903f1d87a6a % The sketches present stereographic and cylindrical map projections and they % pose some interesting challenges for doing them with a 2D drawing package PGF/TikZ. % % The main idea is to draw in selected 3D planes and then project onto the canvas % coordinate system with an appriopriate transformation. Some highlights: % [*] usage of pgf math engine for calculation of projection transformations and % transitions points from visible (solid lines) to invisible (dashed lines) on % meridians and latitude circles % [*] definition of 3D plane transformation with expanded styles so that they are robust % against redefinition of macros used in their construction % [*] usage of named coordinates (nodes) for definition of characteristic points in % local coordinate systems so that they are accessible outside of their plane of % definition % [*] calculation of intersections points with TikZ intersection coordinate system % [*] usage of 'to' path operation instead of 'arc' for marking angles to allow for % easy positioning of text labels on the curve % [*] 3D lighting effects with shading % % % Who's done it % = % % Tomasz M. Trzeciak % % % Distribution and use % % % Use as you see fit. Consider giving a proper attribution to the author. % % % Change log % == % % 2008/08/07 posted to latex-community.org % 2008/08/08 fixed some typos, added note about 'to' path operation to the description, % fixed positioning issue of nodes and 'to' path operation as suggested % by Kjell, removed some dead code from KART picture % 2008/09/28 adapted as an example to ConTeXt \usemodule[tikz] \usetikzlibrary[calc,fadings,decorations.pathreplacing] %% helper macros \def\pgfmathsinandcos#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsetmacro#1{sin(#3)}% \pgfmathsetmacro#2{cos(#3)}% } \def\LongitudePlane#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsinandcos\sinEl\cosEl{#2} % elevation \pgfmathsinandcos\sint\cost{#3} % azimuth \tikzset{#1/.estyle={cm={\cost,\sint*\sinEl,0,\cosEl,(0,0)}}} } \def\LatitudePlane#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsinandcos\sinEl\cosEl{#2} % elevation \pgfmathsinandcos\sint\cost{#3} % latitude \pgfmathsetmacro\yshift{\cosEl*\sint} \tikzset{#1/.estyle={cm={\cost,0,0,\cost*\sinEl,(0,\yshift)}}} % } \def\DrawLongitudeCircle#1#2{ \LongitudePlane{current plane}{\angEl}{#2} \tikzset{current plane/.prefix style={scale=#1}} % angle of visibility \pgfmathsetmacro\angVis{atan(sin(#2)*cos(\angEl)/sin(\angEl))} % \draw[current plane] (\angVis:1) arc (\angVis:\angVis+180:1); \draw[current plane,dashed] (\angVis-180:1) arc (\angVis-180:\angVis:1); } \def\DrawLatitudeCircle#1#2{ \LatitudePlane{current plane}{\angEl}{#2} \tikzset{current plane/.prefix style={scale=#1}} \pgfmathsetmacro\sinVis{sin(#2)/cos(#2)*sin(\angEl)/cos(\angEl)} % angle of visibility \pgfmathsetmacro\angVis{asin(min(1,max(\sinVis,-1)))}
Re: [NTG-context] Has anybody used asymptote without LaTeX?
Hi, Zhichu: $n$ years ago ($n\geq 2$), some user had successfully embed a u3d format file into pdf using ConTeXt with the instruction from Hans. I think the module is still there. Maybe you can have a look. In fact u3d and prc are similar, maybe you can try the same way. But I have no idea how to create a asy-tex interface like tex-mp [Moreover, I prefer to extend mp to 3-dimension, I look at the c code, it is not impossible:)]. Yue Wang On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Alan Thank you for your attention, but I don't need the psedu-3D effect. Asymptote could create real 3D file which pdf has supported since, maybe, version 1.5. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan BRASLAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-09-28 04:35 Zhichu Chen wrote: It is said that Asymptote has supported PRC format 3D file: http://asymptote.sourceforge.net/gallery/3D%20graphs/ I really wanna give it a try, but once I was building from the svn source, I was told that I don't have LaTeX in my $PATH. I haven't really been using LaTeX for a long time, and I prefer I don't need to install a bunch of LaTeX programs and packages just for a drawing program which, IMHO, only use LaTeX to make nice labels. Is there any workarounds? And how to embed .prc files into the .pdf document? -- Best Regards Chen This doesn't really answer your question but may be of some related interest to the mailing list. I am quite fond of pfg/tikz as a drawing package that works rather well with plain tex, latex and context. Asymptote is a similar tool, but it seems to be less portable. However, it appears on the other hand to be much more powerful for 3D. Neverless, I am sharing with this context list an impressive tikz example -- Alan Braslau CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC CNRS URA 2464 Orme des Merisiers 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15 fax: +33 1 69 08 87 86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-dna2006.cea.fr/ .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- that I have adapted to context. (I have put the author on copy.) Basically, the only changes to the latex source are \usepackage{preview} - \startTEXpage \stopTEXpage \begin{tikzpicture} - \starttikzpicture and a few other minor syntax adaptations...) Alan % What is it % == % % Examples inspired by the thread at comp.text.tex about how to convert some hand % drawn pictures into programmatic 3D sketches: % http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/a03baf5d6fa64865/f7e7b903f1d87a6a % The sketches present stereographic and cylindrical map projections and they % pose some interesting challenges for doing them with a 2D drawing package PGF/TikZ. % % The main idea is to draw in selected 3D planes and then project onto the canvas % coordinate system with an appriopriate transformation. Some highlights: % [*] usage of pgf math engine for calculation of projection transformations and % transitions points from visible (solid lines) to invisible (dashed lines) on % meridians and latitude circles % [*] definition of 3D plane transformation with expanded styles so that they are robust % against redefinition of macros used in their construction % [*] usage of named coordinates (nodes) for definition of characteristic points in % local coordinate systems so that they are accessible outside of their plane of % definition % [*] calculation of intersections points with TikZ intersection coordinate system % [*] usage of 'to' path operation instead of 'arc' for marking angles to allow for % easy positioning of text labels on the curve % [*] 3D lighting effects with shading % % % Who's done it % = % % Tomasz M. Trzeciak % % % Distribution and use % % % Use as you see fit. Consider giving a proper attribution to the author. % % % Change log % == % % 2008/08/07 posted to latex-community.org % 2008/08/08 fixed some typos, added note about 'to' path operation to the description, % fixed positioning issue of nodes and 'to' path operation as suggested % by Kjell, removed some dead code from KART picture % 2008/09/28 adapted as an example to ConTeXt \usemodule[tikz] \usetikzlibrary[calc,fadings,decorations.pathreplacing] %% helper macros \def\pgfmathsinandcos#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsetmacro#1{sin(#3)}% \pgfmathsetmacro#2{cos(#3)}% } \def\LongitudePlane#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsinandcos\sinEl\cosEl{#2} % elevation \pgfmathsinandcos\sint\cost{#3} % azimuth \tikzset{#1/.estyle={cm={\cost,\sint*\sinEl,0,\cosEl,(0,0)}}} } \def\LatitudePlane#1#2#3{% \pgfmathsinandcos\sinEl\cosEl{#2} % elevation \pgfmathsinandcos\sint\cost{#3} % latitude \pgfmathsetmacro\yshift{\cosEl*\sint} \tikzset{#1/.estyle={cm={\cost,0,0,\cost*\sinEl,(0,\yshift)}}} % } \def\DrawLongitudeCircle#1#2{ \LongitudePlane{current plane}{\angEl}{#2} \tikzset{current plane/.prefix