Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation again

2021-06-06 Thread Hans Hagen 

On 6/6/2021 6:29 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:


On 6/6/2021 12:11, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

Hi,

yet another strange thing: «ap-plic-»

See code below, Steffen


\mainlanguage[en]

\startexceptions[en]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[de]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[it]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\setuplayout[width=1cm]


\starttext

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank

\language[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank


\mainlanguage[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated


\stoptext





Am 09.10.2020 um 16:38 schrieb Denis Maier:

Hi,
another weird thing:
In this example I use  \startexceptions to set hyphenation exceptions:

```
\mainlanguage[en]
\startexceptions[en]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\setuplayout[width=1cm]

\starttext
\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated
\stoptext
```

What am I missing?

Best,
Denis


When I edit this example with Vim, I see, in part:

\startexceptions[en]
appli-ca<200b>ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[de]
appli-ca<200b>ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[it]
appli-ca<200b>ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

So it seems that the answer remains the same from when Denis posted a 
similar question a few months ago.


indeed, i just wasted an hour figuring out that there is some non letter 
in there; so there will never be a match (exception words get simplified 
to a key that is used in the lookup .. a \zwj or \zwnj can be used if 
needed but in the meantime there is a more sophisticated mechanism


Hans



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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation again

2021-06-06 Thread Rik Kabel 


On 6/6/2021 12:11, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

Hi,

yet another strange thing: «ap-plic-»

See code below, Steffen


\mainlanguage[en]

\startexceptions[en]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[de]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[it]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\setuplayout[width=1cm]


\starttext

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank

\language[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank


\mainlanguage[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated


\stoptext





Am 09.10.2020 um 16:38 schrieb Denis Maier :

Hi,
another weird thing:
In this example I use  \startexceptions to set hyphenation exceptions:

```
\mainlanguage[en]
\startexceptions[en]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\setuplayout[width=1cm]

\starttext
\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated
\stoptext
```

What am I missing?

Best,
Denis


When I edit this example with Vim, I see, in part:

   \startexceptions[en]
   appli-ca<200b>ble
   obli-gated
   \stopexceptions

   \startexceptions[de]
   appli-ca<200b>ble
   obli-gated
   \stopexceptions

   \startexceptions[it]
   appli-ca<200b>ble
   obli-gated
   \stopexceptions

So it seems that the answer remains the same from when Denis posted a 
similar question a few months ago.


--
Rik

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation again

2021-06-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum 
Hi,

yet another strange thing: «ap-plic-»

See code below, Steffen


\mainlanguage[en]

\startexceptions[en]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[de]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[it]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\setuplayout[width=1cm]


\starttext

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank

\language[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank


\mainlanguage[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated


\stoptext




> Am 09.10.2020 um 16:38 schrieb Denis Maier :
> 
> Hi,
> another weird thing:
> In this example I use  \startexceptions to set hyphenation exceptions: 
> 
> ```
> \mainlanguage[en]
> \startexceptions[en]
> appli-ca​ble
> obli-gated
> \stopexceptions
> 
> \setuplayout[width=1cm]
> 
> \starttext
> \currentmainlanguage
> 
> \currentlanguage
> 
> \hyphenatedword{applicable}
> 
> applicable
> 
> \hyphenatedword{obligated}
> 
> obligated
> \stoptext
> ```
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> Best,
> Denis
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation again

2020-10-09 Thread Denis Maier 

Am 09.10.2020 um 16:49 schrieb Rik Kabel:

Denis

You have a hex 200b after ca below.

On 10/9/2020 10:38, Denis Maier wrote:

appli-ca​ble


Thanks, that was it.
You shall never copy from a website ... You shall never copy from a 
website... etc.


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Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation again (mkii)

2007-12-18 Thread Steffen Wolfrum 

Am 17.12.2007 um 14:54 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

 Hi,

 please have a look at the following minimal (4 text-lines):


 \hyphenation{Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung}
 \showframe

 \starttext

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this does brake after Ergän-

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this does NOT brake after 26.

 \stoptext


 I need a thinspace that prevents line-break between 26. and
 Ergänzungslieferung.
 On the other hand this thinspace shouldn't kill my hyphenation points
 (i.e. the word should stay breakable)!


The tilde sign ~ would be perfect, it is just to wide:

\hyphenation{
Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung
}
\showframe
\starttext

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text  
text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

\stoptext


Is there something that is narrow as \, or \thinspace but behaves  
(see above) like ~ ???

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation again (mkii) [solved]

2007-12-18 Thread Steffen Wolfrum 
Wolfgang knew the answer, and as the solution is so brilliant I don't  
want to be selfish about this treasure:

\definetextmodediscretionary ThinSpace
   {\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip.166em\relax}

\definetextmodediscretionary ThickSpace
   {\penalty\plustenthousand\hskip.277em\relax}

... and in situations like today is the 204.|ThinSpace|anniversary  
of the death of Johann Gottfried von Herder you will avoid an  
unintended line-break after 204. but will keep all hyphenation  
points in anniversary. And that's great.

Cheers Johann Gottfried, btw!!

Steffen



Am 18.12.2007 um 11:05 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:


 Am 17.12.2007 um 14:54 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

 Hi,

 please have a look at the following minimal (4 text-lines):


 \hyphenation{Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung}
 \showframe

 \starttext

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this does brake after Ergän-

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text text 26.|\,|Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text text 26.\,Ergänzungslieferung% this does NOT brake after 26.

 \stoptext


 I need a thinspace that prevents line-break between 26. and
 Ergänzungslieferung.
 On the other hand this thinspace shouldn't kill my hyphenation points
 (i.e. the word should stay breakable)!


 The tilde sign ~ would be perfect, it is just to wide:

 \hyphenation{
 Er-gän-zungs-lie-fe-rung
 }
 \showframe
 \starttext

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should brake after Ergän-

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text text 26.~Ergänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

 Text text text text text text text text text text text text text text
 text text 26.\,Er-gänzungslieferung% this should NOT brake after 26.

 \stoptext


 Is there something that is narrow as \, or \thinspace but behaves
 (see above) like ~ ???

 Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation again (mkii)

2007-12-17 Thread Hans Hagen 
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

 On the other hand this thinspace shouldn't kill my hyphenation points  
 (i.e. the word should stay breakable)!

bla|~|bla should do that

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