Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 03:01, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 18:22 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Anything else will leave to undersirable behaviour (or segfaults :) ) As I had said in one of my earlier emails, this is the case for ALL context macros that take both options and

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Hans Hagen
On 22-3-2012 11:38, Mojca Miklavec wrote: - The fact that assignments and simple options have to be separated is not a limitation of TeX, but the way how ConTeXt is programmed. Hans uses a single command that takes all options inside brackets at once that defines (results in) something similar

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Hans Hagen
On 22-3-2012 11:38, Mojca Miklavec wrote: - The fact that assignments and simple options have to be separated is not a limitation of TeX, but the way how ConTeXt is programmed. Hans uses a single command that takes all options inside brackets at once that defines (results in) something similar

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2012-03-22 11:38, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 03:01, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 18:22 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Anything else will leave to undersirable behaviour (or segfaults :) ) As I had said in one of my earlier emails, this is the case for ALL

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2012-03-22 12:21, Philipp Gesang wrote: Therefore the difference to Context deserves mention at least somewhere in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt which said migrators are most likely to consult first. Fyi I just added a couple words to the article:

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: What's probably happening is eventually the system runs out of memory, the swap gets depleted as well, and as a last act of desperation, the kernel finally denies an allocation request to luatex which is pretty rare. The

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:05 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: What's probably happening is eventually the system runs out of memory, the swap gets depleted as well, and as a last act of desperation, the kernel

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Kip Warner
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 11:38 +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: - Maybe it could be more explicit, but if you ever take a look at documentation Sorry, but which documentation should one obviously be looking at? The half a dozen PDFs, the several versions of the wiki, the mailing list, one of the

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Kip Warner
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:21 +0100, Philipp Gesang wrote: You’re right, it can cause confusion to people migrating from Latex where package options, afair, allows mixed key-value/list syntax (like e.g. Lua does as well). Random example from the KOMA-Script manual:

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-22 Thread Kip Warner
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:58 +0100, Philipp Gesang wrote: Fyi I just added a couple words to the article: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt#Optional_Arguments_and_Setups please expand as needed! Thank you. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-21 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 18:22 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Anything else will leave to undersirable behaviour (or segfaults :) ) As I had said in one of my earlier emails, this is the case for ALL context macros that take both options and assignments. Fair enough. I got it to work now with,

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 20-3-2012 01:43, Kip Warner wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 22:49 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: On 19-3-2012 00:29, Kip Warner wrote: I've cc'd the luatex user mailing list since this is probably, I suppose, a luatex issue more than a ConTeXt one. not that probable Actually highly probably,

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 20-3-2012 06:49, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire operating

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 20-3-2012 06:49, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it went

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 09:17 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: which is not really a crash of my operating system; there is not much I can do about this issue I fear. Totally up to you. I just wanted to bring it to your attention. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: You can’t have a assignment in both parameters because this would lead to the same problem as before, combine both settings in one argument and it works. I must not be doing it right because the item numbers are gone now and replaced

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-20 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: You can’t have a assignment in both parameters because this would lead to the same problem as before, combine both settings in one argument and it works. I must not be doing it right because

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.03.2012 um 00:29 schrieb Kip Warner: On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 16:25 -0700, Kip Warner wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 11:21 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2012 um 10:21 schrieb luigi scarso: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: Hey list, Is

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 19-3-2012 00:29, Kip Warner wrote: I've cc'd the luatex user mailing list since this is probably, I suppose, a luatex issue more than a ConTeXt one. not that probable One other thing that I should have made more clear, this only happens when I insert the aforementioned line correction

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 19-3-2012 00:25, Kip Warner wrote: The good news is that this is probably what I need. The bad news is luatex completely blows itself to pieces, allocating memory until the system crashes. Packaging itemizes are on a todo list as I sometimes need it myself, but it has a low priority

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 22:49 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: On 19-3-2012 00:29, Kip Warner wrote: I've cc'd the luatex user mailing list since this is probably, I suppose, a luatex issue more than a ConTeXt one. not that probable Actually highly probably, since the seg fault is raised in

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 22:50 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: Packaging itemizes are on a todo list as I sometimes need it myself, but it has a low priority Ok, but I thought they were already packaged with context? -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 09:17 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Make a example because this works: \starttext %\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par} \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par} \startitemize[before={\startlinecorrection[blank]},after= \stoplinecorrection] \dorecurse{4}{\startitem \input

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 20.03.2012 um 02:04 schrieb Kip Warner: On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 09:17 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Make a example because this works: \starttext %\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par} \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par} \startitemize[before={\startlinecorrection[blank]},after=

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:22 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: The problem is the empty second argument. \startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection][] When you pass two arguments with \startitemize the first argument os for keywords (e.g. packed or fit) and second

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 20.03.2012 um 06:31 schrieb Kip Warner: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:22 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: The problem is the empty second argument. \startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection][] When you pass two arguments with \startitemize the first argument os for

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire operating system to indicate to the user that

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-18 Thread Kip Warner
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 11:21 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2012 um 10:21 schrieb luigi scarso: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: Hey list, Is there any way to hint to ConTeXt that the contents of a \startitemize \stopitemize pair should

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 11:21 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2012 um 10:21 schrieb luigi scarso: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: Hey list, Is there any way to hint to

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-18 Thread Kip Warner
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 16:25 -0700, Kip Warner wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 11:21 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2012 um 10:21 schrieb luigi scarso: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: Hey list, Is there any way to hint to ConTeXt that

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-17 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: Hey list, Is there any way to hint to ConTeXt that the contents of a \startitemize \stopitemize pair should try to be all on the same page? plain old tex \vbox{% \startitemize \stopitemize% } ? -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 17.03.2012 um 10:21 schrieb luigi scarso: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: Hey list, Is there any way to hint to ConTeXt that the contents of a \startitemize \stopitemize pair should try to be all on the same page? plain old tex \vbox{%