Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-30 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans et al,

So, could I fix this by changing some filenames?



\starttypescript [map] [iwona,iwona-light,iwona-medium,iwona-heavy] 
[ec,texnansi,qx,t5]

 \loadmapfile[\typescriptthree-iwona.map]
 \loadmapfile[rm-iwona.map]
 \loadmapfile[mi-iwona.map]
 \loadmapfile[sy-iwona.map]
 \loadmapfile[ex-iwona.map]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [map] [iwona,iwona-light,iwona-medium,iwona-heavy] 
[ec,texnansi,qx,t5]

 \loadmapfile[iwona-\typescriptthree.map]
 \loadmapfile[iwona-rm.map]
 \loadmapfile[iwona-mi.map]
 \loadmapfile[iwona-sy.map]
 \loadmapfile[iwona-ex.map]
\stoptypescript

might help

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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-29 Thread David Arnold

Hans et al,

So, could I fix this by changing some filenames?

On Nov 28, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


Hans, I did, but I'll try again:


well, the log says:
 Warning: pdfetex (file texnansi-iwona.map): cannot open font map file

and i took a look at the latest zip and there they use

  iwona-*.map

names instead of

  *-iwona.map

so ... another uncommunicated change in names

i slowly come to the conclusion that

(1) we should forget about being early adopters (or not adopt at all)
(2) distributions will become more and more instable
(3) if things go on this way, tex will not survive
(4) it's time we start making our own repository and distribution

i simply don't have the time to keep up with all those changes;  it  
looks like the policy of today is "wipe out and start new" which  
also means "never buy a font" and "don't install your own stuff" etc


(there is no way to determine such changes unless we load every map  
file available which is something i don't want to do at all because  
it's the cause of even more trouble)




sudo texhash

And got this response:

Password:
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
texhash: Done.

Mktexlsr seems to do the same thing:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

Then:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ cat junk.tex

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

And, no luck. Log file attached.



On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?



no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned  
by   root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are  
owned  by  darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this  
be a  problem?



did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans,

Frustrating and I agree.

So, perhaps the way to go is through trouble shooting advice in the  
manuals. This advice should take the form of "If you see this, then  
do this..."


that won't help ... if filenames change and files come and go ...



The difficulty, at least for me, is the fact that I don't understand  
the sequence of engines that are brought to bear when compiling. When  
compiling stops with an error with "this not found" or "that not  
found," I have no clue on how to fix it.  



normally it's:

- tex error message (tex stops): some tfm file missing
- pdf file wrong: type 1 font  file missing
- unexpected characters: map file missing



On the other hand, you and other gurus see such a message and you  
seem to say "oh, such and such is missing." Maybe a manual like  
mfonts.tex should spend a significant amount of space addressing  
these trouble shooting techniques.


ha, don't underestimate the time i sometimes spend sorting things out, 
or worse: to get thing sintegrated and find out later that thing shave 
changed


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread David Arnold

Hans,

Frustrating and I agree.

So, perhaps the way to go is through trouble shooting advice in the  
manuals. This advice should take the form of "If you see this, then  
do this..."


The difficulty, at least for me, is the fact that I don't understand  
the sequence of engines that are brought to bear when compiling. When  
compiling stops with an error with "this not found" or "that not  
found," I have no clue on how to fix it.


On the other hand, you and other gurus see such a message and you  
seem to say "oh, such and such is missing." Maybe a manual like  
mfonts.tex should spend a significant amount of space addressing  
these trouble shooting techniques.


On Nov 28, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


Hans, I did, but I'll try again:


well, the log says:
 Warning: pdfetex (file texnansi-iwona.map): cannot open font map file

and i took a look at the latest zip and there they use

  iwona-*.map

names instead of

  *-iwona.map

so ... another uncommunicated change in names

i slowly come to the conclusion that

(1) we should forget about being early adopters (or not adopt at all)
(2) distributions will become more and more instable
(3) if things go on this way, tex will not survive
(4) it's time we start making our own repository and distribution

i simply don't have the time to keep up with all those changes;  it  
looks like the policy of today is "wipe out and start new" which  
also means "never buy a font" and "don't install your own stuff" etc


(there is no way to determine such changes unless we load every map  
file available which is something i don't want to do at all because  
it's the cause of even more trouble)




sudo texhash

And got this response:

Password:
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
texhash: Done.

Mktexlsr seems to do the same thing:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

Then:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ cat junk.tex

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

And, no luck. Log file attached.



On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?



no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned  
by   root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are  
owned  by  darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this  
be a  problem?



did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans, I did, but I'll try again:


you can try this; the price is that you get messages about missing map 
files that you can ignore; i'm not in the mood for renaming and 
reorganizing my system(s) now


Hans


type-map.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans, I did, but I'll try again:


well, the log says:

 Warning: pdfetex (file texnansi-iwona.map): cannot open font map file

and i took a look at the latest zip and there they use

  iwona-*.map

names instead of

  *-iwona.map

so ... another uncommunicated change in names

i slowly come to the conclusion that

(1) we should forget about being early adopters (or not adopt at all)
(2) distributions will become more and more instable
(3) if things go on this way, tex will not survive
(4) it's time we start making our own repository and distribution

i simply don't have the time to keep up with all those changes;  it 
looks like the policy of today is "wipe out and start new" which also 
means "never buy a font" and "don't install your own stuff" etc


(there is no way to determine such changes unless we load every map file 
available which is something i don't want to do at all because it's the 
cause of even more trouble)




sudo texhash

And got this response:

Password:
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
texhash: Done.

Mktexlsr seems to do the same thing:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

Then:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ cat junk.tex

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

And, no luck. Log file attached.



On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?



no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned by   
root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are owned  
by  darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this be a  
problem?



did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread David Arnold

Hans, I did, but I'll try again:

sudo texhash

And got this response:

Password:
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
texhash: Done.

Mktexlsr seems to do the same thing:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

Then:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ cat junk.tex

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

And, no luck. Log file attached.



junk.log
Description: Binary data



On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?


no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned by   
root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are owned  
by  darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this be a  
problem?


did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?


no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned by  
root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are owned by  
darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this be a problem?


did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-27 Thread David Arnold

Hans, Gerben,

No luck. Got the fonts at:

http://www.janusz.nowacki.strefa.pl/kurier.html

Installed to proper directories. But the sample source below did not  
work?


Couple of things?

1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?

2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned by  
root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are owned by  
darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this be a problem?


This file:

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

Produces junk1.log:

This file:

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

Produces junk2.log.



junk2.log
Description: Binary data


junk1.log
Description: Binary data



On Nov 27, 2005, at 2:16 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


Hans,

Hi. I am at work and I don't have access to my email at home from   
work. I'm here with my students working on their projects.


Could you send two small separate samples again, one using the  
iowna  and the other the kurier? I'd like to test it out here.




\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

Hans



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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-27 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:

My best guess is the zip file didn't contain all the iwona fonts  
needed. Am I correct?


i dunno, i always get the zips from Janusz web site

 http://www.janusz.nowacki.strefa.pl/kurier.html

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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-27 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


All,


Found this link. Helpful reading.

http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~hartke/latex/survey/survey.html

I downloaded:

ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/fonts/iwona.zip

Unzipped and put only the afm's and the pfb's in ~/tmp/iwona. Ran:

iwona $ sudo texfont --ve=public --co=iwona --ma --in


no need for texfont! iwona comes with texnansi, ec, t5 etc metrics (non 
virtual !)
just remove all iwona instances you created, unpack teh zip at ctan, and 
you can use it out of the box with context


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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-26 Thread VnPenguin
On 11/26/05, David Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My best guess is the zip file didn't contain all the iwona fonts
> needed. Am I correct?
>

Just got Iwona fonts from: http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/fonts/iwona/

It works perfectly with vietnamese (T5) :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-25 Thread David Arnold
My best guess is the zip file didn't contain all the iwona fonts  
needed. Am I correct?


On Nov 25, 2005, at 7:35 PM, David Arnold wrote:


All,


Found this link. Helpful reading.

http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~hartke/latex/survey/survey.html

I downloaded:

ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/fonts/iwona.zip

Unzipped and put only the afm's and the pfb's in ~/tmp/iwona. Ran:

iwona $ sudo texfont --ve=public --co=iwona --ma --in

That seemed to go well and I compiled:

iwona $ texexec --pdf texnansi-public-iwona.tex

That went well. Got a nice pdf. Acrobat Professional reports that I  
have a slew of Iwona fonts in the document. Now, this little test  
file:


iwona $ cat junk.tex
%output=pdf

\definetypeface[iwona][ss][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface[iwona][mm][math][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]

\setupbodyfont[iwona][texnansi]

\starttext

\input knuth

\stoptext


Stops with:

(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex) 
kpathsea: Running mktextfm rm-iwonar
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map typeface  
abbreviation -i for rm-iwonar.
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update /usr/ 
local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/fontname/special.map?
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;  
nonstopmode; input rm-iwonar

This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.5)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf rm-iwonar
! I can't find file `rm-iwonar'.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input rm-iwonar

Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input rm-iwonar

Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: rm-iwonar.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;  
nonstopmode; input rm-iwonar' failed to make rm-iwonar.tfm.

kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*iwona7ptmmmr*:=rm-iwonar at 7.0pt not loadable: Metric  
(TFM) file not

found.

   \relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
  \let  
\localrelativefontsiz...


\dodosetmathfamilyB ...amily \fontsize \endcsname
  \else \ifcsname  
\fontclass...


\dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
  \let \fontbody #3 
\dodosetm...

 ...ptscriptface \c!mr \mrfallback
  \dosetmathfamily  
\mifam \t...


\synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
  \fi
...
l.6 \setupbodyfont[iwona]
 [texnansi]
?

I wish I could get a better handle on what is going on. I feel like  
I am spinning my wheels. There's gotta be a typescript file for  
this iwona somewhere in the distribution. Can someone tell me where  
it is?


David


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