Re: [NTG-context] POV-Ray
Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Hi, I have needs of graphics which is very heavy and I am using metapost, metaobj and metauml. However, as you may know the problems which I have reported I think that it would be better if I use POV-Ray for images. Sure the file size is going to be blown up by a margin but I think metapost can not beat POV-Ray in terms of power. Nor in terms of total processing time. ;) Please advice. It totally depends on the type of images you need. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] POV-Ray
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 14:44, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Sure the file size is going to be blown up by a margin but I think metapost can not beat POV-Ray in terms of power. Please advice. POV-Ray is for 3D raster images, while metapost is for 2D vector images. I often use POV-Ray to generate complex 3D surfaces and then overlay the image with metapost to add arrows, labels, ... Two two programs are hardly comparable. They are used for completely different needs. You need to tell what kind of images exactly you would want to have. Asymptote may lie somewhere between the two (less powerful than POV-Ray, but more 3D features than metapost). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] POV-Ray
Hi, I indeed agree with Taco… but it depends on your input format, your purpose, etc. For me, the issue can't be resumed to a power comparison between povray and metapost because these tools serve differents purposes! If you want to obtain 3D realistic rendering (with raytracing), you definitely have to use povray, YafaRay and co. and embed the resulting image(s), or movies as usual (I myself never try to embed movies and consequently can't state if that's possible). Else, if you already have an existing 3D model (using 3ds, blend, lwo, … format), wanted to *embed* (not just as an image) it within your final document/pdf with *potential interactivity* and if realistic rendering is not your point you should consider using u3d or prc format and read and try to use it. Search the ML for further details. The main point here is the 3D model conversion to u3d or prc… If you start from scratch and really want to *embed* your 3D model, consider using asymptote to produce a prc file and proceed as in the previous point (see the ML for details). I have never done that. The real issue is: what's your need ? For example, on the one hand I have used u3d embedding for my PhD slides because I wanted to be able to show some details of my 3D model but doesn't want to open a heavy CAD application… On the other hand, I have used povray renderings on the very same 3D model in my PhD thesis. I have used metapost a lot for the same document, but only for 2D diagrams… Best regards, Renaud Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Hi, I have needs of graphics which is very heavy and I am using metapost, metaobj and metauml. However, as you may know the problems which I have reported I think that it would be better if I use POV-Ray for images. Sure the file size is going to be blown up by a margin but I think metapost can not beat POV-Ray in terms of power. Nor in terms of total processing time. ;) Please advice. It totally depends on the type of images you need. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] POV-Ray
Hi, I indeed agree with Taco… but it depends on your input format, your purpose, etc. For me, the issue can't be resumed to a power comparison between povray and metapost because these tools serve differents purposes! If you want to obtain 3D realistic rendering (with raytracing), you definitely have to use povray, YafaRay and co. and embed the resulting image(s), or movies as usual (I myself never try to embed movies and consequently can't state if that's possible). Else, if you already have an existing 3D model (using 3ds, blend, lwo, … format), wanted to *embed* (not just as an image) it within your final document/pdf with *potential interactivity* and if realistic rendering is not your point you should consider using u3d or prc format and read and try to use it. Search the ML for further details. The main point here is the 3D model conversion to u3d or prc… If you start from scratch and really want to *embed* your 3D model, consider using asymptote to produce a prc file and proceed as in the previous point (see the ML for details). I have never done that. The real issue is: what's your need ? For example, on the one hand I have used u3d embedding for my PhD slides because I wanted to be able to show some details of my 3D model but doesn't want to open a heavy CAD application… On the other hand, I have used povray renderings on the very same 3D model in my PhD thesis. I have used metapost a lot for the same document, but only for 2D diagrams… Best regards, Renaud Taco == Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com writes: Taco Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Hi, I have needs of graphics which is very heavy and I am using metapost, metaobj and metauml. However, as you may know the problems which I have reported I think that it would be better if I use POV-Ray for images. Sure the file size is going to be blown up by a margin but I think metapost can not beat POV-Ray in terms of power. Taco Nor in terms of total processing time. ;) Please advice. Taco It totally depends on the type of images you need. Taco Best wishes, Taco Taco ___ Taco If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an Taco entry to the Wiki! Taco maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / Taco http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : Taco http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : Taco http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : Taco http://contextgarden.net Taco ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
