Re: [NTG-context] Suddenly can't run context

2012-11-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Bill Meahan wrote:


2. Something is messed up in $HOME/texmf or $HOME/.texlive2012. Rename
these directories to something different and try again.



Done that several times -- no dice


I normally do not use TL, but looked into it, and the texmfcnf.lua script
distributed with texlive does not look right. I am attaching the output of
mtxrun --generate that I get. Note the following liines:

resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'


It looks as if you were using Debian/Ubuntu? Or any other flavour of
Linux with a native TeX Live package?


Yes and sorry, I should have mentioned that. I am using Texlive from 
archlinux. I was under the impression that archlinux simply includes the 
upstream pacakges without any changes, but it appears that TL expects that 
it will be installed in /usr/local/ so installing the binaries i n 
/usr/bin confuses texmfcnf.lua



So I wonder how does context (MkIV) work at all with TL2012!


Maybe it just doesn't work with your linux box :P
One explanation could be that texmfcnf.lua hasn't been configured properly.
It works with plain TeX Live with default installation.


I'll check if Archlinux uses the same texmfcnf.lua as TL or not. If not, 
I'll report a bug upstream to archlinux.


Is the expectation that texmfcnf.lua will work out of the box for a 
standard linux installation (just like texmf.cnf), or should each 
distribution tweak texmfcnf.lua?


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Suddenly can't run context

2012-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Bill Meahan wrote:

Something has changed on my system and I can't find it. Perhaps someone can 
point me where I should look.



I've had the texlive2012 installed since it came out and until a couple of 
days ago everything worked just fine. All of a sudden, things changed. I did 
nothing directly to the texlive distribution.


wwm@escherton$ context --version  gives the error output at the end of this 
note


wwm@escherton$ sudo context --version works just fine

wwm@escherton$ mtxrun --version works just fine as does mtxrun --script fonts 
--reload c.


I created a new user.

context@escherton$ context --version works just fine

I deleted the texlive distribution  and re-installed it. No change. I've run 
sudo context --generate several times with no change in behavior. I've 
deleted the local .texlive2012 directory but since context won't run, it 
doesn't get recreated. I can set TEXMF and then context will run but it takes 
a much longer time than usual and the disk activity light is on almost solid.


Any ideas?


1. Run mtxrun --generate as normal user followed by context --make; 
otherwise:


2. Something is messed up in $HOME/texmf or $HOME/.texlive2012. Rename 
these directories to something different and try again.


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Re: [NTG-context] Suddenly can't run context

2012-11-18 Thread Bill Meahan

On 11/18/2012 07:53 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
1. Run mtxrun --generate as normal user followed by context --make; 
otherwise:


Won't run as me - same error messages. Ran as another normal user but 
it didn't do anything for me. Same running via sudo


2. Something is messed up in $HOME/texmf or $HOME/.texlive2012. Rename 
these directories to something different and try again.


Aditya


Done that several times -- no dice

:-(

--
Bill



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Re: [NTG-context] Suddenly can't run context

2012-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Bill Meahan wrote:


On 11/18/2012 07:53 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
1. Run mtxrun --generate as normal user followed by context --make; 
otherwise:


Won't run as me - same error messages. Ran as another normal user but it 
didn't do anything for me. Same running via sudo


In general, it is a bad idea to run context tools using sudo. [1]

2. Something is messed up in $HOME/texmf or $HOME/.texlive2012. Rename 
these directories to something different and try again.



Done that several times -- no dice


Hmm... Are there any other tex related directories like $HOME/texmf-var or 
$HOME/texmf-cache? If so try moving those as well.


Otherwise, it could be because of some shell variable that you set (that 
is not set for a new user). Try starting with a clean .shellrc.


Aditya

[1] Traditional TeX tools provide a -sys version,(e.g., fmtutil and 
fmtutil-sys, updmap and updman-sys, etc.) that is to be run by the system 
administrator. Context tools do not provide any such version, so `sudo 
mtxrun ...` is equivalent to creating files for the root user. As such, 
for a multi-user installation, you should avoid running sudo mtxrun etc.

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Re: [NTG-context] Suddenly can't run context

2012-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Bill Meahan wrote:

2. Something is messed up in $HOME/texmf or $HOME/.texlive2012. Rename 
these directories to something different and try again.


Done that several times -- no dice


I normally do not use TL, but looked into it, and the texmfcnf.lua script 
distributed with texlive does not look right. I am attaching the output of 
mtxrun --generate that I get. Note the following liines:


resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'

resolvers   | resolving | found configuration file 
'/usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'


resolvers   | resolving | loading configuration file 
'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'

...

Now, the /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua file says:

 TEXMFSYSVAR = selfautoparent:texmf-var,
 TEXMFVAR= home:.texlive2012/texmf-var,

 TEXMFMAIN   = selfautoparent:texmf,
 TEXMFDIST   = selfautoparent:texmf-dist,


Note from the mtxrun that selfautoparent is set to '', therefore, 
TEXMFMAIN is set to 'texmf' and TEXMFDIST is set to 'texmf-dist'. And 
therefore, `mtxrun --generate` is not scanning the right trees, therefore 
does not build a cache of the right trees, and consequently, cannot find 
mtx-context.lua.


To check my theory, I followed the following steps:

1. Create a directory ~/mytexmfcnf and copied the texmfcnf.lua file from 
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/ to this directory.


2. Open ~/mytexmfcnf/texmfcnf.lua and change

   %s/selfautoparent:/\/usr\/share\/

3. Run

   TEXMFCNF=~/mytexmfcnf mtxrun --generate

4. Run

   TEXMFCNF=~/mytexmfcnf context --version

which then gives

mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.52
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file: 
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/context.mkiv

mtx-context | current version: 2012.05.30 11:26

So I wonder how does context (MkIV) work at all with TL2012!

Aditya
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | using configuration specification 
'home:texmf/web2c;{selfautoloc:,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:,selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/../texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c}'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/home/adityam/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file '/usr/bin/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/usr/bin/share/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/usr/bin/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/usr/bin/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/usr/bin/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file '/usr/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/usr/share/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | found configuration file 
'/usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/usr/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'/usr/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'./../texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file './texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'./share/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'./share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'./texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | unknown configuration file 
'./texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | loading configuration file 
'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | 

Re: [NTG-context] Suddenly can't run context

2012-11-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Bill Meahan wrote:

 2. Something is messed up in $HOME/texmf or $HOME/.texlive2012. Rename
 these directories to something different and try again.


 Done that several times -- no dice

 I normally do not use TL, but looked into it, and the texmfcnf.lua script
 distributed with texlive does not look right. I am attaching the output of
 mtxrun --generate that I get. Note the following liines:

 resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
 resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
 resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'

It looks as if you were using Debian/Ubuntu? Or any other flavour of
Linux with a native TeX Live package?

 resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
 resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
 resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'
 
 resolvers   | resolving | found configuration file
 '/usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
 
 resolvers   | resolving | loading configuration file
 'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
 ...

 mtxrun --generate

resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to
'/usr/local/texlive/2012/bin/x86_64-darwin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to
'/usr/local/texlive/2012/bin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to
'/usr/local/texlive/2012'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'bin'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | using configuration specification
'home:texmf/web2c;{selfautoloc:,selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:,selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautodir:/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/../texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:,selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c,selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c}'
resolvers   | resolving |
...
resolvers   | resolving | found configuration file
'/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmfcnf.lua'
...
resolvers   | resolving | found configuration file
'/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | loading configuration file
'selfautoparent:/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | loading configuration file
'selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'

 Now, the /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua file says:

  TEXMFSYSVAR = selfautoparent:texmf-var,
  TEXMFVAR= home:.texlive2012/texmf-var,
 
  TEXMFMAIN   = selfautoparent:texmf,
  TEXMFDIST   = selfautoparent:texmf-dist,
 

 Note from the mtxrun that selfautoparent is set to '', therefore, TEXMFMAIN
 is set to 'texmf' and TEXMFDIST is set to 'texmf-dist'. And therefore,
 `mtxrun --generate` is not scanning the right trees, therefore does not
 build a cache of the right trees, and consequently, cannot find
 mtx-context.lua.

 To check my theory, I followed the following steps:

 1. Create a directory ~/mytexmfcnf and copied the texmfcnf.lua file from
 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/ to this directory.

 2. Open ~/mytexmfcnf/texmfcnf.lua and change

%s/selfautoparent:/\/usr\/share\/

 3. Run

TEXMFCNF=~/mytexmfcnf mtxrun --generate

 4. Run

TEXMFCNF=~/mytexmfcnf context --version

 which then gives

 mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.52
 mtx-context |
 mtx-context | main context file:
 /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
 mtx-context | current version: 2012.05.30 11:26

 So I wonder how does context (MkIV) work at all with TL2012!

Maybe it just doesn't work with your linux box :P
One explanation could be that texmfcnf.lua hasn't been configured properly.
It works with plain TeX Live with default installation.

MacPorts would do the following:

post-patch {
foreach x {texmf.cnf.d/10paths.cnf texmfcnf.lua texlive-update-cnf} {
reinplace s|@@PREFIX@@|${prefix}|g ${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXMFMAIN@@|${texlive_texmfmain}|g ${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXMFDIST@@|${texlive_texmfdist}|g ${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXMFPORTS@@|${texlive_texmfports}|g ${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXMFLOCAL@@|${texlive_texmflocal}|g ${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXMFSYSVAR@@|${texlive_texmfsysvar}|g
${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXMFSYSCONFIG@@|${texlive_texmfsysconfig}|g
${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXMFHOME@@|${texlive_texmfhome}|g ${worksrcpath}/${x}
reinplace s|@@TEXLIVE_BINDIR@@|${texlive_bindir}|g ${worksrcpath}/${x}
}
}


To Bill: can you try