Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 30.04.2009 um 17:40 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 30.04.2009 um 20:33 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). That one indeed (that was easy...), but the whole

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2009-04-28 um 20:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: \setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc. Long time in ConTeXt means less than a year... In 2008-08 Hans

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen: I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for my needs. \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use own values for author, date etc. in

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:24:01 +0200 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com scribit: Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen: I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for my needs. \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 14:35 schrieb R. Bastian: The \startchapter does not exist in my MinimalContex installation, but I hope one can include it. I dream from a world where people can whether they use MkII or MkIV and what's the date of their ConTeXt version. Anyway: which is the best method to

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen: I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for my needs. \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use own values

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Mohamed Bana
Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow \section hello world to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions. On 28/04/2009 19:53, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 28.04.2009 um 19:42

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title=

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-29 um 15:53 schrieb Mohamed Bana: Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow \section hello world to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions. Please don't mix your

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:07:53 -0600 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu scribit: Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread luigi scarso
May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. hmm. Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete. But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. hmm. Context is a macro package in

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:07 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data]

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] \setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand] \define[2]\TitleCommand

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] \setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand] \setuphead[chapter][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:31:27 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data]

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is happy. See section 1 at page *11.1*. I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number. Vyatcheslav

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is happy. See section 1 at page *11.1*. I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number. weird because i

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Otared Kavian
On 29 avr. 09, at 21:05, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is happy. See section 1 at page *11.1*. I don't understand why

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:13 schrieb Otared Kavian: Thanks for your nice example, but I too get See section 1 at page 11.1. with ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/english. MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.28 08:46 Wolfgang

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:11 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: I try to understand here, how to redo my chapter setup that once worked using sectionworld commands. At the moment I get no output for the chapter title at all. My input reads: \Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle} You never needed the

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:00:07 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 28.04.2009 um 19:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: \setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc. Wolfgang

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-28 um 20:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: \setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc. Long time in ConTeXt means less than a year... In 2008-08 Hans still wrote he wouldn't