Re: [NTG-context] columnsets messed up

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 02.07.2021 um 14:49 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm :
> In several articles I get a problem, and I can’t (yet) reproduce it in a MWE:
> 
> The text in a two-column columnset suddenly breaks at the end of a left 
> column, the end is missing.
> 
> Here’s an example PDF:
> https://sedna.fiee.net/f/24d54a952b0243a98775/?dl=1
> 
> What could case that?

Even curioser:

If there isn’t a \page after \stopcolumnset, the second-to-last section 
(subject) disappears and the last one is typeset completely.

(Later:)
Ok, found it:

\def\stopArticle{%
  \par\signArticle
  \doif{\getvariable{CG-Journal}{NOFColumns}}{>1}
  {\stopcolumnset}
  \page
}

--> \stopcolumnset is never executed, since \doif can’t handle ">1". – Did it 
ever or is this a regression?


Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets messed up

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/2/2021 11:03 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:



Am 02.07.2021 um 08:51 schrieb Hans Hagen :

On 7/1/2021 8:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Hi,
I’m working at the current CG journal whose layout uses columnsets. They aren’t 
usable any more. Same in current LMTX and MkIV.
- the first line can start one or more lines lower
- then the same number of lines is printed over each other at the bottom
- it gets worse with footnotes (looks like their space isn’t considered at all)
- if the column set doesn’t start at the top of the page, the second column does
Hraban
\definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2]
\starttext
\chapter{This is a chapter about column sets}
\startcolumnset[cgjcolset]
\dorecurse{20}{
\samplefile{sapolsky}\par
}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext

Personally I'd never use columnsets for anything else than very controlled 
situations because that's what they were made for. Not to be mixed with the 
normal pagebuilder. So, first of all you need to operate on the grid (i can 
probably get rid of some side effects and maigt even force that but not now). 
Then, \chapter itself flushes pages so that should be disabled.


Thank you, I got it mostly working now.

The CGJ layout doesn’t actually use \chapter but its own convoluted 
\startArticle. Until last issue it tried to be flexible and setup three 
different column modes. Now I eliminated the last leftovers of that. I still 
struggle to understand some pecularities...

What I did wrong:
* \setuplayout[grid=yes] is important
* you can’t start a columnsetspan before the columnset
leter this year i will into the several column mechanisms (maybe also 
some mechanism to warn for mixed usage or use of features that interfere 
.. doing columns is hairy in tex)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets messed up

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 02.07.2021 um 08:51 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 7/1/2021 8:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I’m working at the current CG journal whose layout uses columnsets. They 
>> aren’t usable any more. Same in current LMTX and MkIV.
>> - the first line can start one or more lines lower
>> - then the same number of lines is printed over each other at the bottom
>> - it gets worse with footnotes (looks like their space isn’t considered at 
>> all)
>> - if the column set doesn’t start at the top of the page, the second column 
>> does
>> Hraban
>> \definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2]
>> \starttext
>> \chapter{This is a chapter about column sets}
>> \startcolumnset[cgjcolset]
>> \dorecurse{20}{
>> \samplefile{sapolsky}\par
>> }
>> \stopcolumnset
>> \stoptext
> Personally I'd never use columnsets for anything else than very controlled 
> situations because that's what they were made for. Not to be mixed with the 
> normal pagebuilder. So, first of all you need to operate on the grid (i can 
> probably get rid of some side effects and maigt even force that but not now). 
> Then, \chapter itself flushes pages so that should be disabled.

Thank you, I got it mostly working now.

The CGJ layout doesn’t actually use \chapter but its own convoluted 
\startArticle. Until last issue it tried to be flexible and setup three 
different column modes. Now I eliminated the last leftovers of that. I still 
struggle to understand some pecularities...

What I did wrong:
* \setuplayout[grid=yes] is important
* you can’t start a columnsetspan before the columnset

Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets messed up

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/1/2021 8:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Hi,
I’m working at the current CG journal whose layout uses columnsets. They aren’t 
usable any more. Same in current LMTX and MkIV.

- the first line can start one or more lines lower
- then the same number of lines is printed over each other at the bottom
- it gets worse with footnotes (looks like their space isn’t considered at all)
- if the column set doesn’t start at the top of the page, the second column does


Hraban


\definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2]

\starttext

\chapter{This is a chapter about column sets}

\startcolumnset[cgjcolset]

\dorecurse{20}{
\samplefile{sapolsky}\par
}

\stopcolumnset

\stoptext
Personally I'd never use columnsets for anything else than very 
controlled situations because that's what they were made for. Not to be 
mixed with the normal pagebuilder. So, first of all you need to operate 
on the grid (i can probably get rid of some side effects and maigt even 
force that but not now). Then, \chapter itself flushes pages so that 
should be disabled.


Here is a simple example:

\setuplayout[lines=40,grid=yes]

\definecolumnset[cgjcolset][n=2]

\starttext

\definecolumnsetspan
 [chapter]
 [background=color,
  backgroundcolor=red]

\setuphead[chapter][page=no,after=,before=]

\startcolumnset[cgjcolset]

\startcolumnsetspan[chapter]
\chapter{This is a chapter about column sets}
\stopcolumnsetspan

\dorecurse{20}{
\samplefile{sapolsky}\par
}

\stopcolumnset

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets not balanced

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Sytse knyps...@home.nl schrieb am 15.07.2019 um 13:09:

Dear list,

In the following example I would like to have the two columns balanced, i.e. 
with equal number of lines in both columns. But contrary to the option in the 
definition, all text is put in the leftmost column and the right-hand column 
remains empty.

\definecolumnset[Two][balance=yes]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[Two]
   \input knuth
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext

How can I automatically obtain balanced columns?

 Columnsets have no support for balanced columns.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:05:01 +0100
Hans Hagen  wrote:

> I'm currently reimplementing columnsets and I'm wondering how many
> users there are of this mechanism. How bad is it if the more obscure
> features go away and others show up.

I have used and liked columnsets, so I vote for their improvement. I
find them particularly useful when composing A0 (scientific) posters. I
will gladly adapt to their evolution.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2016-02-10 um 05:58 schrieb Alan BRASLAU :

> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:05:01 +0100
> Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
>> I'm currently reimplementing columnsets and I'm wondering how many
>> users there are of this mechanism. How bad is it if the more obscure
>> features go away and others show up.
> 
> I have used and liked columnsets, so I vote for their improvement. I
> find them particularly useful when composing A0 (scientific) posters. I
> will gladly adapt to their evolution.

The same. I need to adapt my ConTeXt sources anyway every time I try to use 
them...

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets error in 2.08 beta

[Philipp Gesang]

On 2012-02-15 09:52, Peter Park Nelson wrote:
 BTW, is it possible to revert the Context standalone installation to
 an earlier beta (without going all the way back to the last stable)?

Hi Peter,

there is a git mirror at

http://repo.or.cz/w/context.git/shortlog/refs/heads/origin

If you don’t want to clone the whole thing, just pick one
snapshot of your liking from the web interface and download it.
Then, untar it and replace the contents of the directory
tex/texmf-context/ of your minimals/standalone installation with
the files from the snapshot. (Just to be safe you should not
merely copy everything but delete the old files first.)
Finally, rebuild the format and file database:

context --generate
context --make

and check if it worked:

context --version

If the string “current version: .mm.dd HH:MM” shows the date
of the snapshot you chose, you have successfully reverted to an
earlier beta.

Hth,
Philipp




 
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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets error in 2.08 beta

[Peter Park Nelson]

Columnset error is gone in 2.16 beta -- Thanks, Hans.

But there still seems to be a problem in the output routine:

if I place a font switch like \bf or \ss at the beginning of a
paragraph that falls in the first column of my columnset, that column
is suppressed and only the second column is typeset.

If the switch is in the second column, both columns are output, but
there is extra vertical space at the beginning of the first column.

%%- START -%%

\definecolumnset[body][n=2]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\starttext
\showframe
\startcolumnset[body]

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tempor mattis eget sit amet felis. Vestibulum ligula nunc, elementum
ut tincidunt sed, {\ss commodo at dui}.

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%\dorecurse{4}{\input tufte\par} % TEST: PUSH NEXT PARAGRAPH TO SECOND COLUMN
\ss \input tufte\par

\stopcolumnset
\stoptext

%%---STOP%%

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Peter Park Nelson
peter.park.nel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hans, it still does not work.
 BTW, is it possible to revert the Context standalone installation to
 an earlier beta (without going all the way back to the last stable)?

 Error below:

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets error in 2.08 beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 15-2-2012 06:56, Peter Park Nelson wrote:

Updated to Feb. 8 beta, now none of my documents with columnsets will
compile. Without the columnset, the example below works fine:

\definecolumnset[body][n=2]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[body]
\input tufte\par
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext


you can try the following patch in page-set.mkiv

\page_otr_set_routine - \page_otr_set_command_routine

\s!page_otr_command_set_hsize=\page_one_command_set_hsize,

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets error in 2.08 beta

[Peter Park Nelson]

Hans, it still does not work.
BTW, is it possible to revert the Context standalone installation to
an earlier beta (without going all the way back to the last stable)?

Error below:

(K2.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2012.02.08 21:58 MKIV  fmt: 2012.2.15  int: english/english

system   cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/home/peter/contextbeta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system   beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system   K2.top loaded

system   options  start used options

used options % runtime options files (command line driven)
used options \unprotect
used options % feedback and basic job control
used options % handy for special styles
used options \startluacode
used options document = document or { }
used options document.arguments={
used options }
used options document.files={
used options  K2.tex,
used options }
used options \stopluacode
used options % process info
used options \setupsystem[inputfile=K2.tex]
used options \setupsystem[\c!n=1,\c!m=1]
used options % modes
used options % options (not that important)
used options \startsetups *runtime:options
used options \stopsetups
used options % styles and modules
used options \startsetups *runtime:modules
used options \stopsetups
used options % done
used options \protect \endinput

system   options  stop used options

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fontsvirtual math  unable to resolve name mapsfromchar
fontsfallback modern rm 12pt is loaded
! Undefined control sequence.

system   tex  error on line 6 in file K2.tex: Undefined
control sequence ...

1
2 \definecolumnset[body][n=2]
3
4 \starttext
5 \startcolumnset[body]
6   \input tufte\par
7 \stopcolumnset
8
9 \stoptext


\154columnset:page_otr_command_routine ...outine

\page_otr_commands_process ...outineparameter {#1}
  }\ifx \page_otr_specifics_...
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inserted text ...eset \the \t_page_otr_commands
  \let \page_otr_commands_pr...
\setup_outputroutine ...\everyswitchoutputroutine
  \fi \else \let \previousou...
to be read again
   \doifelsenothing
...
l.6 \input
   tufte\par
?
! Interruption.

system   tex  error on line 6 in file K2.tex: Interruption ...

1
2 \definecolumnset[body][n=2]
3
4 \starttext
5 \startcolumnset[body]
6   \input tufte\par
7 \stopcolumnset
8
9 \stoptext


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  }\ifx \page_otr_specifics_...
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  \page_otr_commands_process...
inserted text ...eset \the \t_page_otr_commands
  \let \page_otr_commands_pr...
\setup_outputroutine ...\everyswitchoutputroutine
  \fi \else \let \previousou...
to be read again
   \doifelsenothing
\dostartcolumnset ...!columnset ]\doifelsenothing
  {#1} {\globallet \OTRSETli...
...
l.6 \input
   tufte\par
?
! Emergency stop.

system   tex  error on line 6 in file K2.tex: Emergency stop ...

1
2 \definecolumnset[body][n=2]
3
4 \starttext
5 \startcolumnset[body]
6   \input tufte\par
7 \stopcolumnset
8
9 \stoptext


\page_otr_commands_process ...outineparameter {#1}
  }\ifx \page_otr_specifics_...
inserted text ...cess {page_otr_command_routine}
  \page_otr_commands_process...
inserted text ...eset \the \t_page_otr_commands
  \let \page_otr_commands_pr...
\setup_outputroutine ...\everyswitchoutputroutine
  \fi \else \let \previousou...
to be read again
   \doifelsenothing
\dostartcolumnset ...!columnset ]\doifelsenothing
  {#1} {\globallet \OTRSETli...
...
l.6 \input
   tufte\par
End of file on the terminal!

!  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Hans Hagen 

Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets: bug in current beta?

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-11-2011 19:58, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello Peter.
I have a similar experience. If image width is greater than the width of
one column and at the same time is a picture with the caption then text
does not wrap around the image. If the picture is without caption (for
example \placefigure[btrl,none]{}{...}) then everything works fine.
I deal this with emergency so that the caption I incorporate into the
PDF picture and then place figure without caption.


I'm not sure when/how this was introduced (too many changes in the mkiv 
code). I have a patch but it needs checking with the normal (one column) 
mode so some patience is needed.


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets: bug in current beta?

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

Hello Peter.
I have a similar experience. If image width is greater than the width of 
one column and at the same time is a picture with the caption then text 
does not wrap around the image. If the picture is without caption (for 
example \placefigure[btrl,none]{}{...}) then everything works fine.
I deal this with emergency so that the caption I incorporate into the 
PDF picture and then place figure without caption.


Jaroslav



Dne 26.11.2011 22:29, Peter Park Nelson napsal(a):

Hello,

Following the example in the Columns manual, the following works with 
TeXLive 2011 but not with the current context suite beta (25 nov 2011):


\definecolumnset[body][n=2]
\definecolumnsethsize{body}{1}{1}\One
\definecolumnsethsize{body}{1}{2}\Two

\starttext
\startcolumnset[body]

\dorecurse{5}{\input tufte\par}

\startbuffer
\placefigure[btlr]{A placeholder 
figure.}{\externalfigure[widefigure][width=\Two]}

\stopbuffer

\dorecurse{5}{\input tufte\par}

\getbuffer

\stopcolumnset
\stoptext

Using the current beta, the figure only cleanly spans one column -- 
vertical space for the graphic and caption is reserved in one column; 
in the other column, text flows on beneath the graphic, which is 
superimposed.


Using TeXLive 2011, the wide figure spans both columns correctly.

Thanks,
PPN
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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets and placement of figures

[Willi Egger]

Hi Wolfgang,

On 12 May 2011, at 18:12, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 
 Am 12.05.2011 um 10:11 schrieb Willi Egger:
 
 In columnsets bottom has no effect.
 
 When I use “bottom” in our example context reserves space for the figure at 
 the bottom but the figure itself doesn’t appear.

hm, 

 Indeed lrbt does place the figure at the bottom. The struggle is, that I 
 have to be able to place the figure as well left as right aligned. So the 
 option rlbt should do this, but doesn't. All together I came then to the 
 conclusion that one should place the float at the bottom with 'bots' and add 
 an offset. But maybe I miss something...
 Th solution I have now is 
 \startcolumnset
  
 \placefigure[lrbt][]{none}{\offset[x=1cm]{\externalfigure[fake][width=2\textwidth,height=3cm]}}
  % for moving the float to the right
 \stopcolumnset
 
 \startcolumnset
  
 \placefigure[lrbt][]{none}{\externalfigure[fake][width=2\textwidth,height=3cm]}
  % for a left aligned float.
 \stopcolumnset
 
 Why don’t you stretch the figure the whole width of the two columns and the 
 distance between them. I saw in the manual a example where Hans defined a 
 command \Two which does this.

Unfortunately the graphics to be place are not of the double-column-width. So I 
need to be able to place them either left of right aligned relative to the 
left/right margin...

Thanks for your comments
Willi
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets and placement of figures

[Willi Egger]

Hi Wolfgang,

The option 'bots' is described in the Columns manual  (page 18). Yes I was 
looking in the source, but was unable to understand what I found. I saw, that 
there are commented lines in page-ini.mkiv (lines 230 and ff).
In columnsets bottom has no effect.
Indeed lrbt does place the figure at the bottom. The struggle is, that I have 
to be able to place the figure as well left as right aligned. So the option 
rlbt should do this, but doesn't. All together I came then to the conclusion 
that one should place the float at the bottom with 'bots' and add an offset. 
But maybe I miss something...
Th solution I have now is 
\startcolumnset

\placefigure[lrbt][]{none}{\offset[x=1cm]{\externalfigure[fake][width=2\textwidth,height=3cm]}}
 % for moving the float to the right
\stopcolumnset

\startcolumnset

\placefigure[lrbt][]{none}{\externalfigure[fake][width=2\textwidth,height=3cm]} 
% for a left aligned float.
\stopcolumnset


Kind regards

Willi

On 9 May 2011, at 18:34, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 
 Am 09.05.2011 um 13:32 schrieb Willi Egger:
 
 Dear list,
 
 In a document with a columnsets there are many directives to place figures 
 on certain spots (see columns-manual).
 
 I deal with a two-columns layout.
 Now I would need to place a figure in the first column at the lower left 
 edge. Here the command
 
 \placefigure[bots][]{none}{\externalfigure[fake][width=\textwidth,height=3cm]}
 
 will  not result in the figure at the bottom of the page, instead turns up 
 at the top.
 
 As i can’t find any reference to a “bots” keyword it isn’t a valid option.
 Why don’t you use “bottom” or “lrbt” to place your picture.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets and placement of figures

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 12.05.2011 um 10:11 schrieb Willi Egger:

 In columnsets bottom has no effect.

When I use “bottom” in our example context reserves space for the figure at the 
bottom but the figure itself doesn’t appear.

 Indeed lrbt does place the figure at the bottom. The struggle is, that I have 
 to be able to place the figure as well left as right aligned. So the option 
 rlbt should do this, but doesn't. All together I came then to the conclusion 
 that one should place the float at the bottom with 'bots' and add an offset. 
 But maybe I miss something...
 Th solution I have now is 
 \startcolumnset
   
 \placefigure[lrbt][]{none}{\offset[x=1cm]{\externalfigure[fake][width=2\textwidth,height=3cm]}}
  % for moving the float to the right
 \stopcolumnset
 
 \startcolumnset
   
 \placefigure[lrbt][]{none}{\externalfigure[fake][width=2\textwidth,height=3cm]}
  % for a left aligned float.
 \stopcolumnset

Why don’t you stretch the figure the whole width of the two columns and the 
distance between them. I saw in the manual a example where Hans defined a 
command \Two which does this.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets and placement of figures

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 09.05.2011 um 13:32 schrieb Willi Egger:

 Dear list,
 
 In a document with a columnsets there are many directives to place figures on 
 certain spots (see columns-manual).
 
 I deal with a two-columns layout.
 Now I would need to place a figure in the first column at the lower left 
 edge. Here the command
 
 \placefigure[bots][]{none}{\externalfigure[fake][width=\textwidth,height=3cm]}
 
 will  not result in the figure at the bottom of the page, instead turns up at 
 the top.

As i can’t find any reference to a “bots” keyword it isn’t a valid option.
Why don’t you use “bottom” or “lrbt” to place your picture.

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets and footnotes

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 Hi,

 What do I need to get footnotes to work with columnsets. Somehow
 footntes have the wrong width.

 \definecolumnset [two]  [n=2,balancing=yes,distance=0.2in]
 \starttext
  \startcolumnset[two]
\dorecurse{10}{ \input tufte\footnote{\input zapf \endgraf}
 \endgraf}
  \stopcolumnset
 \stoptext

Adding \setupfootnotes[width=\textwidth] works but it seems a bit 
strange that I have to do that. Should columnsets redefine 
\makeupwidth to the width of the column?

Aditya


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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Taco Hoekwater]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

... and here is an example that shows the problem:


Oops, that doesn't look right at all.

Do you really need column sets, or is normal columns
mode ok as well?

  \startcolumns[n=2]
  \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\footnote{\input ward \relax}}
  \stopcolumns

Looks about right.

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:




Steffen Wolfrum wrote:


... and here is an example that shows the problem:



Oops, that doesn't look right at all.


you need to set widths

\setupfootnotes[n=1,width=\hsize]

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Re: [NTG-context] columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 09.01.2006 um 11:06 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:



Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

... and here is an example that shows the problem:


Oops, that doesn't look right at all.

Do you really need column sets, or is normal columns
mode ok as well?


1)

Yes, column sets would be better.




  \startcolumns[n=2]
  \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\footnote{\input ward \relax}}
  \stopcolumns

Looks about right.

Cheers, Taco


2)

When I try ...

\setupfootnotes[n=3]
\starttext
  \startcolumns[n=2]
  \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\footnote{\input ward \relax}}
  \stopcolumns
\stoptext

at the bottom of page 1 there is a lot of white space before the  
footnote text of footnote 1-4 (the footnotemarkers 1 to 4 come up the  
next page).
So in this example it doesn't seem to be possible to keep footnote  
markers and text at the same page:


Wouldn't it be better in this case to fill page 1 also with the  
footnote text of the following footnotes?

In this way the pages would look much better.

Is there a way (penalty?) to express how *urgent* footnote markers  
and text need to be forced to the same page?

Or - in other words - to loosen the connection?

Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets problems

[Gilles Pérez-Lambert]

Hello,

Hans Hagen a écrit le mercredi 23 mars 2005 19:33 :
 Gilles Pérez-Lambert wrote:
 below is another way of doing it (OTRSET patch)

Thanks.

 6   The right column continues in the footer.
 10  Same problem.
 17  a line from the left column is reported on
 the right column even if there is room for
 it on the left column.
 
 dunno, have to look into it (quite tricky to sync things in column 
 sets; stretching tex to the limit)

I know. I didn't even think it was possible at all with TeX. It's a minor 
problem: I'll do manual edits.

 By the way, always in a columnsets context, is there a way to 
 completely forbid floats on certain pages?
 
 no, should be doabla (so remind me later)

I will. :-)

 I didn't find a way to tell placefigure not to allow figures to be 
 renumbered during the placement. In other words, is there a 
 possibility the follow the order in which I declare the figure, even 
 if a page is less optimal like this...
 
 see patch below

Thanks!

Just a thing: I had to delete the '%' in the '\null}%' line below to make it 
compile.

 \def\OTRSETskipstart
 {\scratchcounter\executeifdefined{\??mc\OTRSETidentifier\c!start}\zerocount
\ifcase\scratchcounter\else
  \advance\scratchcounter\plusone
  \doOTRSETsetgridcells
{\copy\placeholderboxe}
\plusone\plusone\nofcolumns\scratchcounter
\null}%
\fi}

Thanks again,

Gilles.
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Re: [NTG-context] Columnsets problems

[Hans Hagen]

Gilles Pérez-Lambert wrote:
Hello,
Following Hans's presentation on ConTeXt in EuroTeX 2005, I started to use 
columnsets. I'm really really impressed. Columnsets are easy to set up and 
wonderfully powerful.
Nevertheless, I have some problems with columnsets... On the page:
http://typo.free.fr/context/
you'll find the source file (Bogues.tex) and the output (Bogues.pdf)
or a zip file of them.
Some info on my config:
   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
   context : ver: 2005.03.16
   cont-en : ver: 2005.03.16  fmt: 2005.3.19  mes: english
   cont-nl : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2005.3.19  mes: dutch
Pages
on the
Bogues.pdf  Description
--  
1   When a title (here: \Article{Le titre})
is inside a columnsetspan, header=empty
doesn't work.
you probably means 'high'
well, that's kind of tricky and i need to look into that carefully
below is another way of doing it (OTRSET patch)
6   The right column continues in the footer.
10  Same problem.
17  a line from the left column is reported on
the right column even if there is room for
it on the left column.
dunno, have to look into it (quite tricky to sync things in column sets; 
stretching tex to the limit)

By the way, always in a columnsets context, is there a way to completely forbid floats on certain pages?
no, should be doabla (so remind me later)
I didn't find a way to tell placefigure not to allow figures to be renumbered during the placement. In other words, is there a possibility the follow the order in which I declare the figure, even if a page is less optimal like this...
see patch below
\unprotect
% % % %
\setupfloats
  [\c!numbering=\v!yes]
\def\dofloatreference
  {\doifnot\@@bknumbering\v!nocheck
 {\doglobal\increment\numberedfloat
  \expanded{\writeutilitycommand
{\noexpand\twopassentry
{\s!float}%
{\numberedfloat}%
{\hetnummer}
\def\redofloatorder#1%
  {\doifnot\@@bknumbering\v!nocheck
 {\doglobal\increment\nofplacedfloats\relax
  \gettwopassdata\s!float
  \iftwopassdatafound
\doifnot\hetnummer\twopassdata
  {\edef\oldhetnummer{\hetnummer}%
   \xdef\hetnummer{\twopassdata}%
   \showmessage\m!floatblocks1{\nofplacedfloats,#1 
\oldhetnummer,\hetnummer}}%
  \fi}}

% % % %
\def\OTRSETskipstart
  {\scratchcounter\executeifdefined{\??mc\OTRSETidentifier\c!start}\zerocount
   \ifcase\scratchcounter\else
 \advance\scratchcounter\plusone
 \doOTRSETsetgridcells
   {\copy\placeholderboxe}
   \plusone\plusone\nofcolumns\scratchcounter
   \null}%
   \fi}
\def\OTRSETsetvsize % snap per sectie (gap here?)
  {\ifcollectingcontent \else % can be assigndimen
\OTRSETskipstart
 \OTRSETcheckinsert % added
 \OTRSETsetfreecells\mofcolumns\columnfirstcell
 \ifsomefreecolumncells
   \global\vsize\columnfreecells\lineheight
   \ifinotr % else problems with floats, see extreme
 \global\pagegoal\vsize % niet nodig, tenzij binnen otr
   \fi
   \synchronizeoutput % fails on example
  % \allowbreak % hm
 \fi
 \synchronizenotes
   \fi}
\def\OTRSETdoflushfloats
  {\bgroup
   \def\OTRSETsavebox##1{\!!doneafalse}%
   \doloop
 {\ifsomefloatwaiting
\OTRSETskipstart
\dogetfloat
\ifdim\wd\floatbox\zeropoint
  \!!doneatrue
  \dp\floatbox\zeropoint
  \OTRSETstoreincolumnslot{TBLR}\floatbox
  \if!!donea
   %\message{[flu]}%
  \else
\OTRSETresavebox\floatbox
\exitloop
  \fi
\else
 %\message{[err]}% happens but why?
\fi
  \else
\exitloop
  \fi}
   \egroup}
\protect
\setuplayout
  [grid=yes,
   header=0pt,
   height=middle,
   width=middle]
\showgrid
\setupfloats[numbering=nocheck]
\definecolumnset [first] [n=2,start=0]
\definecolumnset [next]  [n=2,start=3]
\setuptexttexts[\vbox to \textheight{\topskipcorrection \hsize\makeupwidth left 
\hfill right\vfill}]

\setuphead[chapter][text=empty]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[first,next]
  \placefigure[btrl]{}{}
  \placefigure[tblr]{}{}
  \chapter{thuan} \dorecurse{25}{\recurselevel: \input thuan \endgraf}
\stopcolumnset
\startcolumnset[first,next]
  \chapter{thuan} \dorecurse{25}{\recurselevel: \input thuan \endgraf}
\stopcolumnset
\startcolumnset[first,next]
  \chapter{thuan} \dorecurse{25}{\input thuan \endgraf\placefigure{}{}}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
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