Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
> Try 'authoryear' or 'authoryears' if you want to have both, the author > and the year. > > Could you try >\setupcite[authoryears][authoretallimit=2] >\setupcite[authoryear][authoretallimit=2] > maybe it works. (I still have an older ConTeXt and no time to test.) Thanks, the \setupcite[authoryears][authoretallimit=2] fixes it. (And in the latest bib module, Taco has fixed the need for that line.) -Sanjoy `Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.' --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: >>No, it is all my fault, sorry. For a quick fix, please add this >> \setupcite[authoryears][authoretallimit=2] >>to your document. I will upload a fixed version asap. > > > Thanks, that fixes it. Great. Meanwhile I have also uploaded a fixed version, but the \setupcite statement is a user-level command that is there to stay so there is no real reason to update right now. Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
> No, it is all my fault, sorry. For a quick fix, please add this >\setupcite[authoryears][authoretallimit=2] > to your document. I will upload a fixed version asap. Thanks, that fixes it. -Sanjoy `Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.' --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Hi, > I have the same problem with the latest ConTeXt (ver:2006.08.08 21:51, > fmt: 2006.8.8). The following example produces (Pound, 1959) as the > citation in the text rather than giving (Pound and Rebka, 1959). > If I > use \cite[author][Pound-Rebka:1959] to make sure the style is > 'author', then I get (Pound) in the text, with no year. Probably I'm > doing something silly? > Try 'authoryear' or 'authoryears' if you want to have both, the author and the year. Could you try \setupcite[authoryears][authoretallimit=2] \setupcite[authoryear][authoretallimit=2] maybe it works. (I still have an older ConTeXt and no time to test.) Tobias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: >>>I have just installed the latest version of m-bib. Where I had before a >>>citation "alpher and bethe" with \cite[author] for a bib-item with two >>>authors I get only the first now. What has to be changed in order to get >>>two authors in the text while for more than two there will be "alpher et >>>al."? >> >>You have to update your base context distribution as well. > > > I have the same problem with the latest ConTeXt (ver:2006.08.08 21:51, > fmt: 2006.8.8). The following example produces (Pound, 1959) as the > citation in the text rather than giving (Pound and Rebka, 1959). If I > use \cite[author][Pound-Rebka:1959] to make sure the style is > 'author', then I get (Pound) in the text, with no year. Probably I'm > doing something silly? No, it is all my fault, sorry. For a quick fix, please add this \setupcite[authoryears][authoretallimit=2] to your document. I will upload a fixed version asap. Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
> > I have just installed the latest version of m-bib. Where I had before a > > citation "alpher and bethe" with \cite[author] for a bib-item with two > > authors I get only the first now. What has to be changed in order to get > > two authors in the text while for more than two there will be "alpher et > > al."? > > You have to update your base context distribution as well. I have the same problem with the latest ConTeXt (ver:2006.08.08 21:51, fmt: 2006.8.8). The following example produces (Pound, 1959) as the citation in the text rather than giving (Pound and Rebka, 1959). If I use \cite[author][Pound-Rebka:1959] to make sure the style is 'author', then I get (Pound) in the text, with no year. Probably I'm doing something silly? \usemodule[bib] \setuppublicationlist[samplesize={Mid91},totalnumber=1] \startpublication[k=Pound-Rebka:1959,t=article, a={{Pound},{Rebka}},y=1959,n=1,s=PR59] \artauthor[]{R.~V.}[R.~V.]{}{Pound} \artauthor[]{G.~A.}[G.~A.]{}{Rebka} \pubyear{1959} \arttitle{Gravitational red-shift in nuclear resonance} \journal{Physical Review Letters} \volume{3} \pages{439--441} \stoppublication \starttext An incredibly tiny effect! To find out how it was measured, see their paper: \cite[Pound-Rebka:1959]. \stoptext ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi there, > > I have just installed the latest version of m-bib. Where I had before a > citation "alpher and bethe" with \cite[author] for a bib-item with two > authors I get only the first now. What has to be changed in order to get > two authors in the text while for more than two there will be "alpher et > al."? You have to update your base context distribution as well. Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Martin_Kolarik said this at Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:52:14 +0200: >Yes, I can see my test file :-) -- you should get the list in the test file >if you state > >\setuppublicationlist > [criterium=all] > >or > >\setuppublicationlist > [criterium=section] > >for the list of pubs from the current section only. o! Thanks so much for spelling this out. I was getting very confused because it wasn't matching up with my last major m-bib-using project, and I didn't notice that option under \setuppublicationlist. adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Hi Martin/Adam, Thank you for investigating this, you have saved me an enormous amount of debugging work, I think. It is not completely clear to me if I really should change to the module. I could insert a 'criterium=all' as default for the list, but since it suddenly stopped working, it looks like there is a ConTeXt bug involded somewhere. That probably merits investigation as well. Greetings, Taco On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:52:14 +0200 Martin Kolarik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I can see my test file :-) -- you should get the list in the test file > if you state > > \setuppublicationlist > [criterium=all] > > or > > \setuppublicationlist > [criterium=section] > > for the list of pubs from the current section only. > > I succeeded after this, > > have a nice day, > > Martin > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Adam Lindsay > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailing list for ConTeXt users; Taco Hoekwater > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module > > > Martin Kolarik said this at Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:14:55 +0200: > > >2. if I used simply \placepublications (or \placelist[pubs]) I got nothing. > >And after some tracing I found that I did not set criterium=something. > > Hum. Thanks for the response, but I tried a minimal file, and it all > became clear. > > If there's a \section in my test file, \placelist[pubs] and its variants > doesn't work. If I take it out, the list appears just fine. > > Huh? > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 > Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Yes, I can see my test file :-) -- you should get the list in the test file if you state \setuppublicationlist [criterium=all] or \setuppublicationlist [criterium=section] for the list of pubs from the current section only. I succeeded after this, have a nice day, Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Lindsay Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailing list for ConTeXt users; Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module Martin Kolarik said this at Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:14:55 +0200: >2. if I used simply \placepublications (or \placelist[pubs]) I got nothing. >And after some tracing I found that I did not set criterium=something. Hum. Thanks for the response, but I tried a minimal file, and it all became clear. If there's a \section in my test file, \placelist[pubs] and its variants doesn't work. If I take it out, the list appears just fine. Huh? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Martin Kolarik said this at Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:14:55 +0200: >2. if I used simply \placepublications (or \placelist[pubs]) I got nothing. >And after some tracing I found that I did not set criterium=something. Hum. Thanks for the response, but I tried a minimal file, and it all became clear. If there's a \section in my test file, \placelist[pubs] and its variants doesn't work. If I take it out, the list appears just fine. Huh? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Hi all, first I must apologize for delayed (and now induced by Adam too :-) response. What I have found: 1. startpublication stores data in a stream of data written as is without any processing. It was my first error -- I use XML and I created publication full of \XMLops and \XMLflushes, so in the time of usage of the publication all these macros expanded to empty string. So I have to rewrite XML handler :-) 2. if I used simply \placepublications (or \placelist[pubs]) I got nothing. And after some tracing I found that I did not set criterium=something. After correcting this, publications appeared correctly. I did not continue to check code after this success, but it seems to me the criterium parameter is NOT set for publication list by default. My mistake was I did not trust the bib module documentation, as I expected (myself :-) it is a good habit in the ConTeXt to set defaults of parameters to the values which allow user for the first hit catch reasonable output. So maybe this helps, have a nice day, Martin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Lindsay > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:44 PM > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; Taco Hoekwater > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module > > > Taco Hoekwater said this at Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:44:14 +0200: > > >It works here, but I am not sure if that means anything. Can you try > > > > texexec --version > > > >and perhaps e-mail me a small (wrong) file as well? > > I just discovered this didn't work for me, either! > > Latest ConTeXt, just-downloaded m-bib-2004-08-30.zip. > > The key is here: > (./ReportLindsay.tuo) > system : pubs not found/processed > > It simply doesn't find the pubs list, but it's in the .tuo file! > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 > Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Taco Hoekwater said this at Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:44:14 +0200: >It works here, but I am not sure if that means anything. Can you try > > texexec --version > >and perhaps e-mail me a small (wrong) file as well? I just discovered this didn't work for me, either! Latest ConTeXt, just-downloaded m-bib-2004-08-30.zip. The key is here: (./ReportLindsay.tuo) system : pubs not found/processed It simply doesn't find the pubs list, but it's in the .tuo file! -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Martin Kolarik wrote: Hi Taco, I am in doubt with \placepublications (\completepublications) -- it seems to me it does not work now. If I define publication in the text (\startpublication...) I am able to cite it (\cite), but \placepublications does not generate any output. It works here, but I am not sure if that means anything. Can you try texexec --version and perhaps e-mail me a small (wrong) file as well? Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Hi Taco, I am in doubt with \placepublications (\completepublications) -- it seems to me it does not work now. If I define publication in the text (\startpublication...) I am able to cite it (\cite), but \placepublications does not generate any output. Maybe it is some new stuff -- I remember the publications in the bib module documentation (your PDF in bib module distribution zip) in the middle of August, but now the PDF the last \completepublications does not contain. Thanks for any hints, Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Taco Hoekwater Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:46 PM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module Hi Fabrice, Sorry, I forgot to migrate my alpha bib module when the context alpha became the 'current distribution'. My latest module is/was still here: http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/alpha/ I will fix the website a.s.a.p. On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:40:34 +0200, Fabrice wrote: > I guess the new module is the one using t-bib.tex and t-list.tex. > -- groeten, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] m-bib module
> Sorry, I forgot to migrate my alpha bib module when the context alpha > became the 'current distribution'. My latest module is/was still here: > > http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/alpha/ > > I will fix the website a.s.a.p. Many thanks ! Fabrice ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Hi Fabrice, Sorry, I forgot to migrate my alpha bib module when the context alpha became the 'current distribution'. My latest module is/was still here: http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/alpha/ I will fix the website a.s.a.p. On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:40:34 +0200, Fabrice wrote: > I guess the new module is the one using t-bib.tex and t-list.tex. > -- groeten, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] m-bib module
> this is related to the low level interface that is now english, so, one > needs the latest bib module > >http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/ > Unfortunately, I'm already using it. So either the real new one is hidden somewhere else or there is still a problem. system : macros of module bib loaded (c:\Documents and Settings\popineau\My Documents/texmf/tex/context/bib/t-bib.tex ! Undefined control sequence. l.332 \definieerlijst [pubs][pubs] ? system : macros of module list loaded (c:\Documents and Settings\popineau\My Documents/texmf/tex/context/bib/t-list.tex) ! Undefined control sequence. \c!nummercommando =\bibleftnumber I guess the new module is the one using t-bib.tex and t-list.tex. Fabrice ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Fabrice Popineau wrote: I get an error recently with the m-bib module, probably due to some misuse of it: (c:\Documents and Settings\popineau\My Documents/texmf/tex/context/bib/t-bib.tex ! Undefined control sequence. l.332 \definieerlijst [pubs][pubs] ? system : macros of module list loaded (c:\Documents and Settings\popineau\My Documents/texmf/tex/context/bib/t-list.tex) ! Undefined control sequence. \c!nummercommando =\bibleftnumber \xprocesscommaitem #1,#2->\if ,#1 ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] \xprocesscommaitem \else \if [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...mmando =\bibleftnumber , \c!variant =,\c!variant =apa \xdogetparameters #1]->\xprocesscommaitem #1 ,],[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \dosetuppublications ...tnumber , \c!variant =,#1] \doifsomething {\@@pbvaria... l.1215[\c!variant=apa] ? Any clue how to fix this ? this is related to the low level interface that is now english, so, one needs the latest bib module http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/ Sorry for the inconvenience Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] m-bib module
I get an error recently with the m-bib module, probably due to some misuse of it: (c:\Documents and Settings\popineau\My Documents/texmf/tex/context/bib/t-bib.tex ! Undefined control sequence. l.332 \definieerlijst [pubs][pubs] ? system : macros of module list loaded (c:\Documents and Settings\popineau\My Documents/texmf/tex/context/bib/t-list.tex) ! Undefined control sequence. \c!nummercommando =\bibleftnumber \xprocesscommaitem #1,#2->\if ,#1 ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] \xprocesscommaitem \else \if [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...mmando =\bibleftnumber , \c!variant =,\c!variant =apa \xdogetparameters #1]->\xprocesscommaitem #1 ,],[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \dosetuppublications ...tnumber , \c!variant =,#1] \doifsomething {\@@pbvaria... l.1215[\c!variant=apa] ? Any clue how to fix this ? Thanks in advance, Fabrice ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib module
Hi art, You need to delete the files indicated below, since they are left over from an old version of the bib module. The bib style files in your tex/context/bib dir are newer and use commands that are not in the older m-bib that gets loaded by context. > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/extra/m-bib/m-bib.tex > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/extra/m-bib/m-list.tex This confusion is my fault in a way, because the newer release uses t-XXX.tex filenames instead of m-XXX.tex (different module prefix) and I forgot to advertise that. Apparently context searches for m- files before t- files. Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context