Re: [NTG-context] mode dependend character handling
Sorry for answering that late.
The correct way would be to define swiss as a language, because
then you can put a suitable redefinition inside the language
specifics, but the following hack will work as well and is a lot
faster to implement (please don't tell anyone I proposed this):
\enableregime[il1]
\let\normalssharp\ssharp
\def\ssharp{\doifmodeelse{swiss}{ss}{\normalssharp}}
Thank you, that works and is just the right solution for my problem.
Mojca's proposal:
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
unfortunately doesn't work, at least not with utf regime and ec
encoding.
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Re: [NTG-context] mode dependend character handling
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Mojca's proposal:
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
unfortunately doesn't work, at least not with utf regime and ec
encoding.
Since Taco's proposal is OK, you don't need this, but I'll reply
anyway. The problem is caused by wrong order of commands. If you
load ec encoding AFTER this command, your new definition of ssharp
will be overridden by the encoding definition again.
Compare:
\enableregime[utf] % may be whatever, no influence
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\usetypescript[modern][ec] % or texnansi
\setupbodyfont[modern]
\starttext
Maß Bier! % fails (prints ß)
\stoptext
with:
\usetypescript[modern][ec] % or texnansi
\setupbodyfont[modern]
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\starttext
Maß Bier! % prints ss
\stoptext
(Since ec encoding is the default one on my system, I had to use
texnansi in order to make the example fail.)
If you use a slightly longer variant
\startencoding[ec]
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\stopencoding
than the order of commands doesn't matter any more (but then the
automatic conversion will only work for the ec encoding).
But now my question for Taco: why does your example work in both
cases? Does \def have a higher priority than \definecharacter?
Thanks,
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] mode dependend character handling
Am 2006-01-14 um 20:35 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
Since Taco's proposal is OK, you don't need this, but I'll reply
anyway. The problem is caused by wrong order of commands. If you
load ec encoding AFTER this command, your new definition of ssharp
will be overridden by the encoding definition again.
...
(Since ec encoding is the default one on my system, I had to use
texnansi in order to make the example fail.)
ec is my default encoding, too, so I didn't use any changing commands.
\startencoding[ec]
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\stopencoding
than the order of commands doesn't matter any more (but then the
automatic conversion will only work for the ec encoding).
No, it doesn't.
And I don't find any errors in the log.
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Re: [NTG-context] mode dependend character handling
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
\startencoding[ec]
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\stopencoding
than the order of commands doesn't matter any more (but then the
automatic conversion will only work for the ec encoding).
mode processing is based on modes that are in effect
at the execution time of the \startmode macro, not
the typeset time. This would work:
\enablemode[swiss]
\startencoding[ec]
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\stopencoding
but then it would be on always, since it effectively becomes
\startencoding[ec]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopencoding
whereas without the \enablemode it becomes only:
\startencoding[ec]
\stopencoding
which does nothing.
HTH,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] mode dependend character handling
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
\startencoding[ec]
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\stopencoding
than the order of commands doesn't matter any more (but then the
automatic conversion will only work for the ec encoding).
mode processing is based on modes that are in effect
at the execution time of the \startmode macro, not
the typeset time. This would work:
\enablemode[swiss]
\startencoding[ec]
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
\stopencoding
but then it would be on always, since it effectively becomes
\startencoding[ec]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopencoding
whereas without the \enablemode it becomes only:
\startencoding[ec]
\stopencoding
which does nothing.
OK, thanks Taco. Now I understand the problem. I always compiled with or without
texexec --mode=swiss
which worked fine. If mixing modes within the same document is
required (\enablemode/\disablemode[swiss]), it fails of course (I
didn't think about it).
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] mode dependend character handling
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
(This mail was rejected as spam in my first try, and the reject message
was catched by my spam filter...)
No doubt that's why spam for medication is so popular: you need
the medication to cope with the rest of the spam.
A happy new year!
Likewise!
I'd like to typeset a text in both German and Swiss German orthography,
i.e. I'd like to expand s (or the like) to ß in German and ss in Swiss
German mode,
or even better, automagically change ß to ss in Swiss mode.
The correct way would be to define swiss as a language, because
then you can put a suitable redefinition inside the language
specifics, but the following hack will work as well and is a lot
faster to implement (please don't tell anyone I proposed this):
\enableregime[il1]
\let\normalssharp\ssharp
\def\ssharp{\doifmodeelse{swiss}{ss}{\normalssharp}}
\starttext
{\enablemode[swiss] Grüßlis} Grüßlis
\stoptext
Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] mode dependend character handling
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
I'd like to typeset a text in both German and Swiss German orthography,
i.e. I'd like to expand s (or the like) to ß in German and ss in
Swiss German mode,
If everything is set OK in the regime you're using, this should work:
\startmode[swiss]
\definecharacter ssharp {ss}
\stopmode
Mojca
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