Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 02.03.2009 um 11:41 schrieb Hans Hagen: I would set offset parameters for all four margins before rule values but will us Hans ever grant this wish, it's been on the list from a lot of us for years. indeed, but only because it has a speed penalty; maybe some day in mkiv only Test file with 10.000 simple frames. Unmodified \framed: Output written on rul-test-5.pdf (1250 pages, 730030 bytes). Transcript written on rul-test-5.log. TeXExec | runtime: 10.023787 Modified \framed: Output written on rul-test-5.pdf (1250 pages, 730030 bytes). Transcript written on rul-test-5.log. TeXExec | runtime: 10.524815 If you won't change the MkII version I can live with this but what speaks against a modification of the MkIV version. Don't say performance, MkIV is in many parts slower than MkII (e.g. buffers) but people who use don't care about this. And here are the times for MkIV. Original core-rul: mkiv lua stats : runtime - 20.242 seconds, 1250 processed pages, 1250 shipped pages, 61.753 pages/second Modified core-rul: mkiv lua stats : runtime - 22.108 seconds, 1250 processed pages, 1250 shipped pages, 56.541 pages/second Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: If you won't change the MkII version I can live with this but what speaks against a modification of the MkIV version. Don't say performance, MkIV is in many parts slower than MkII (e.g. buffers) but people who use don't care about this. are you sure that it's slower with buffer? after all, we don't use files for buffers in mkiv And here are the times for MkIV. Original core-rul: mkiv lua stats : runtime - 20.242 seconds, 1250 processed pages, 1250 shipped pages, 61.753 pages/second Modified core-rul: mkiv lua stats : runtime - 22.108 seconds, 1250 processed pages, 1250 shipped pages, 56.541 pages/second Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 02.03.2009 um 11:41 schrieb Hans Hagen: I would set offset parameters for all four margins before rule values but will us Hans ever grant this wish, it's been on the list from a lot of us for years. indeed, but only because it has a speed penalty; maybe some day in mkiv only Test file with 10.000 simple frames. Unmodified \framed: Output written on rul-test-5.pdf (1250 pages, 730030 bytes). Transcript written on rul-test-5.log. TeXExec | runtime: 10.023787 Modified \framed: Output written on rul-test-5.pdf (1250 pages, 730030 bytes). Transcript written on rul-test-5.log. TeXExec | runtime: 10.524815 If you won't change the MkII version I can live with this but what speaks against a modification of the MkIV version. Don't say performance, MkIV is in many parts slower than MkII (e.g. buffers) but people who use don't care about this. And here are the times for MkIV. Original core-rul: mkiv lua stats : runtime - 20.242 seconds, 1250 processed pages, 1250 shipped pages, 61.753 pages/second Modified core-rul: mkiv lua stats : runtime - 22.108 seconds, 1250 processed pages, 1250 shipped pages, 56.541 pages/second how did your test file + core-rul patch look (keep in mind that in official mkiv we use a different core-rul) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: If you won't change the MkII version I can live with this but what speaks against a modification of the MkIV version. Don't say performance, MkIV is in many parts slower than MkII (e.g. buffers) but people who use don't care about this. are you sure that it's slower with buffer? after all, we don't use files for buffers in mkiv Not really, I can't find my old test files and it can be a side effect of my test method. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question regarding natural tables: Would it be able to set the rulethickness parameter for one (e.g. the right) side of selected columns separately (e.g. rulethickness_right=2pt)? Not directly. One can misuse an empty column or use metafun to draw the background separately. See http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php If there was something similar for ConTeXt, I would vote for this feature immediately :) I would set offset parameters for all four margins before rule values but will us Hans ever grant this wish, it's been on the list from a lot of us for years. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question regarding natural tables: Would it be able to set the rulethickness parameter for one (e.g. the right) side of selected columns separately (e.g. rulethickness_right=2pt)? Not directly. One can misuse an empty column or use metafun to draw the background separately. See http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php If there was something similar for ConTeXt, I would vote for this feature immediately :) I would set offset parameters for all four margins before rule values but will us Hans ever grant this wish, it's been on the list from a lot of us for years. indeed, but only because it has a speed penalty; maybe some day in mkiv only - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 20:28, Albrecht Kauffmann wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding natural tables: Would it be able to set the rulethickness parameter for one (e.g. the right) side of selected columns separately (e.g. rulethickness_right=2pt)? You may try the attachment. It's a bit suboptimal, but kind-of-works. I don't know why the borders are not finished properly on edges. Mojca thick-border.tex Description: TeX document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
Mojca Miklavec schrieb: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 20:28, Albrecht Kauffmann wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding natural tables: Would it be able to set the rulethickness parameter for one (e.g. the right) side of selected columns separately (e.g. rulethickness_right=2pt)? You may try the attachment. It's a bit suboptimal, but kind-of-works. I don't know why the borders are not finished properly on edges. Just give the TABLE macro a chance to calculate the right total sizes :) \setupTABLE[c][1,6][width=2pt,offset=overlay,rulethickness=2pt] \setupTABLE[r][1,3,6][height=2pt,offset=overlay,rulethickness=2pt] Best wishes, Peter Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 20:28, Albrecht Kauffmann wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding natural tables: Would it be able to set the rulethickness parameter for one (e.g. the right) side of selected columns separately (e.g. rulethickness_right=2pt)? Not directly. One can misuse an empty column or use metafun to draw the background separately. See http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php If there was something similar for ConTeXt, I would vote for this feature immediately :) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rulethickness in columns
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 20:28, Albrecht Kauffmann wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding natural tables: Would it be able to set the rulethickness parameter for one (e.g. the right) side of selected columns separately (e.g. rulethickness_right=2pt)? Not directly. One can misuse an empty column or use metafun to draw the background separately. See http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php If there was something similar for ConTeXt, I would vote for this feature immediately :) hm, yet another thing then to track ... also, having such a system would disable your private hot-line-get-me-this-feature priveliges so you'd better think twice Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
