Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-11 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2010 9:00, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:

Taco Hoekwater (2010-05-09 08:15):

Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:

But would it let me place such a list of publications:

Books
1. Author (year). Title.
2. Author (year). Title.

Internet resources
3. URL

Movies
4. Author (year). Title.

It seems that I could easily use \setuppublicationlayout to define a
'movies' type, but is listing references by type implemented


Not in mkii.


But I am running MKIV, look one line below. So, is printing a list of
publications grouped by publication type possible or easily done with
MKIV?


I know it is not supported out of the box, but only Hans knows how
hard it would be to write an extension (it should be considerably
easier to do in lua than in TeX, but even so ...).


a more mkiv-ish approach is:

\starttext

% bibtex
%   entry tag=hagen:tb19-3-311 category=article
% field name=number3/field
% field name=bibdateFri Jul 13 10:24:20 MDT 2007/field
% field name=authorHans Hagen/field
% field name=journalTUGboat/field
% field name=title{Visual Debugging in \TeX, Part 1: The 
Story}/field

% field name=ISSN0896-3207/field
% field name=year1998/field
% field name=pages311--317/field
% field name=volume19/field
%   /entry
% /bibtex


\def\MF  {MF}
\def\MP  {MP}
\def\TUB {TUGboat}
\def\Mc  {Mac}
\def\sltt{\tt}
\let\acro\firstofoneargument

\usemodule[abr-01]

\definebibtexsession [somebibtex]

\registerbibtexfile [somebibtex] [tugboat.bib]
\registerbibtexfile [somebibtex] [komoedie.bib]

\preparebibtexsession [somebibtex] % [convert]

\startxmlsetups bibtex:one
  \starttabulate[|Bl|p|]
  \NC tag   \NC \xmlatt{#1}{tag} \NC\NR
  \NC author\NC \xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='author']/context()} \NC\NR
  \NC title \NC \xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='title' ]/context()} \NC\NR
  \stoptabulate
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups bibtex:bibtex
\xmlfilter{#1}{
/ent...@category='article']
/fie...@name='author' and (find(text(),'Hans Hagen')
or find(text(),'Taco Hoekwater'))]
/../command(bibtex:one)
}
\stopxmlsetups

\applytobibtexsession[somebibtex][bibtex]

\page

\startxmlsetups bibtex:entry:getkeys
\xmladdsortentry{bibtex}{#1}
{\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='author']/text()}}
\xmladdsortentry{bibtex}{#1}
{\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='year'  ]/text()}}
\xmladdsortentry{bibtex}{#1}
{\xmlatt{#1}{tag}}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups xml:bibtex:sorter
\xmlresetsorter{bibtex}
  % \xmlfilter{#1}{entry/command(bibtex:entry:getkeys)}
\xmlfilter{#1}{
bibtex
/ent...@category='article']
/fie...@name='author' and find(text(),'Knuth')]
/../command(bibtex:entry:getkeys)}
\xmlsortentries{bibtex}
\xmlflushsorter{bibtex}{bibtex:entry:flush}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups bibtex:entry:flush
\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='author']/context()} / %
\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='year'  ]/context()} / %
\xmlatt{#1}{tag}\par
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlsetup{bibtex:somebibtex}{xml:bibtex:sorter}

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans Hagen wrote:


a more mkiv-ish approach is:


As even I don't quite understand this: could you or someone else
perhaps illuminate this code with explanations? It would make
an interesting article/wiki page, I think.

Best wishes,
Taco


\starttext

% bibtex
%   entry tag=hagen:tb19-3-311 category=article
% field name=number3/field
% field name=bibdateFri Jul 13 10:24:20 MDT 2007/field
% field name=authorHans Hagen/field
% field name=journalTUGboat/field
% field name=title{Visual Debugging in \TeX, Part 1: The 
Story}/field

% field name=ISSN0896-3207/field
% field name=year1998/field
% field name=pages311--317/field
% field name=volume19/field
%   /entry
% /bibtex


\def\MF  {MF}
\def\MP  {MP}
\def\TUB {TUGboat}
\def\Mc  {Mac}
\def\sltt{\tt}
\let\acro\firstofoneargument

\usemodule[abr-01]

\definebibtexsession [somebibtex]

\registerbibtexfile [somebibtex] [tugboat.bib]
\registerbibtexfile [somebibtex] [komoedie.bib]

\preparebibtexsession [somebibtex] % [convert]

\startxmlsetups bibtex:one
  \starttabulate[|Bl|p|]
  \NC tag   \NC \xmlatt{#1}{tag} \NC\NR
  \NC author\NC \xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='author']/context()} \NC\NR
  \NC title \NC \xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='title' ]/context()} \NC\NR
  \stoptabulate
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups bibtex:bibtex
\xmlfilter{#1}{
/ent...@category='article']
/fie...@name='author' and (find(text(),'Hans Hagen')
or find(text(),'Taco Hoekwater'))]
/../command(bibtex:one)
}
\stopxmlsetups

\applytobibtexsession[somebibtex][bibtex]

\page

\startxmlsetups bibtex:entry:getkeys
\xmladdsortentry{bibtex}{#1}
{\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='author']/text()}}
\xmladdsortentry{bibtex}{#1}
{\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='year'  ]/text()}}
\xmladdsortentry{bibtex}{#1}
{\xmlatt{#1}{tag}}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups xml:bibtex:sorter
\xmlresetsorter{bibtex}
  % \xmlfilter{#1}{entry/command(bibtex:entry:getkeys)}
\xmlfilter{#1}{
bibtex
/ent...@category='article']
/fie...@name='author' and find(text(),'Knuth')]
/../command(bibtex:entry:getkeys)}
\xmlsortentries{bibtex}
\xmlflushsorter{bibtex}{bibtex:entry:flush}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups bibtex:entry:flush
\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='author']/context()} / %
\xmlfilter{#1}{/fie...@name='year'  ]/context()} / %
\xmlatt{#1}{tag}\par
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlsetup{bibtex:somebibtex}{xml:bibtex:sorter}

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-11 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11-5-2010 10:43, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Hans Hagen wrote:


a more mkiv-ish approach is:


As even I don't quite understand this: could you or someone else
perhaps illuminate this code with explanations? It would make
an interesting article/wiki page, I think.


it's just the code from hybrid-bibtex.tex (without text) as di didn;t 
want to post an unfinished chapter so in due time there will be an 
explanation ... the xml bit is explained in the xml-mkiv document


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:

Taco Hoekwater (2010-05-09 08:15):

Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:

But would it let me place such a list of publications:

 Books
 1. Author (year). Title.
 2. Author (year). Title.

 Internet resources
 3. URL

 Movies
 4. Author (year). Title.

It seems that I could easily use \setuppublicationlayout to define a
'movies' type, but is listing references by type implemented


Not in mkii.


But I am running MKIV, look one line below. So, is printing a list of
publications grouped by publication type possible or easily done with
MKIV?


I know it is not supported out of the box, but only Hans knows how
hard it would be to write an extension (it should be considerably
easier to do in lua than in TeX, but even so ...).

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-10 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne ponedeljek 10. maja 2010 ob 09:00:18 je Taco Hoekwater napisal(a):
 Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:
  But I am running MKIV, look one line below. So, is printing a list of
  publications grouped by publication type possible or easily done with
  MKIV?
 
 I know it is not supported out of the box, but only Hans knows how
 hard it would be to write an extension (it should be considerably
 easier to do in lua than in TeX, but even so ...).

I would need such an advanced grouping system as well. It's really unfortunate 
it's so hard to do :\


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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:


But would it let me place such a list of publications:

  Books
  
  1. Author (year). Title.

  2. Author (year). Title.
  
  Internet resources


  3. URL

  Movies

  4. Author (year). Title.

It seems that I could easily use \setuppublicationlayout to define a
'movies' type, but is listing references by type implemented 


Not in mkii.


(or easily done with MKIV)? Intuitively, I would use

  \placepublications[criterium=[type, book]]

for each list...



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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-09 Thread Rogutės Sparnuotos
Taco Hoekwater (2010-05-09 08:15):
 Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:
 
  But would it let me place such a list of publications:
 
   Books
   1. Author (year). Title.
   2. Author (year). Title.
  
   Internet resources
   3. URL
 
   Movies
   4. Author (year). Title.
 
 It seems that I could easily use \setuppublicationlayout to define a
 'movies' type, but is listing references by type implemented
   
 Not in mkii.

But I am running MKIV, look one line below. So, is printing a list of
publications grouped by publication type possible or easily done with
MKIV?

 (or easily done with MKIV)? Intuitively, I would use
 
   \placepublications[criterium=[type, book]]
 
 for each list...

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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-08 Thread Rogutės Sparnuotos
Marius (2010-05-07 09:32):
 I think what are you looking for is possible with bib module. Look at
 the 3.1 section Default and explicit citations
 
 http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/bibmod-doc-2009.11.04.zip
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography

Yes, it looks very interesting and not as complicated as in LaTeX - thank
you.

But would it let me place such a list of publications:

  Books
  
  1. Author (year). Title.
  2. Author (year). Title.
  
  Internet resources

  3. URL

  Movies

  4. Author (year). Title.

It seems that I could easily use \setuppublicationlayout to define a
'movies' type, but is listing references by type implemented (or easily
done with MKIV)? Intuitively, I would use

  \placepublications[criterium=[type, book]]

for each list...

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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-07 Thread Marius
I think what are you looking for is possible with bib module. Look at
the 3.1 section Default and explicit citations

http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/bibmod-doc-2009.11.04.zip
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:52 AM,  rogu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 rogu...@googlemail.com (2010-05-05 05:12):
 2. I would like to use something like this for bibliography:
    http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simple_Bibliography#Another_Approach
    but adapting it seems too hard for me. Perhaps someone could help? A
    very crude example:

    ---
    People are writing about this \cite[ref1], (\cite[ref2] - page 25).

    \startbibliography
      \bibitem[ref1] This is the first reference.
      \bibitem[Daniel, 2004][ref2] This is the second reference.
    \stopbibliography
    ---

    should be rendered as:

    ---
    People are writing about this [1], (Daniel, 2004 - page 25)

    1. This is the first reference.
    2. This is the second reference.
    ---

    That is, I want an environment and 2 commands:
      \startbibliography
      \cite [key]
      \bibitem [label_replacing_\cite[key]_but_not_the_item_number] [key]

 A bump to my initial question to add that I am using MKIV and a question:
 would this be hard to implement for a total ConTeXt newcommer?  What
 should he use? TeX / Lua? Would ConTeXt commands be enough?

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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-06 Thread Rogutės Sparnuotos
Otared Kavian otared at gmail.com writes:
 On 5 mai 2010, at 09:25, Marius wrote:
  On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:12 AM,  rogutes at googlemail.com wrote:
  
  1. How does one add a dot after the numerals in headings, so that
  \section{First}
becomes
  1. First
instead of
  1 First
?
  
  \setupheads[sectionstopper=.]
 
 Actually this works only in mkiv, and implies also a dot after the
 chapter numbers and so on. 
 If you want only a dot after the section number you may say
 \setuphead[section][sectionstopper={.}]
 
 The same thing is possible in mkii, but I don't remember how to do it
 right now…

Thank you both very much. I have a humble question now: how did you find
out about this setting?

I thought about adding sectionstopper to the Reference in the wiki
(sectionstarter should go with it, no?), but was not sure how to go
about a MKIV-only parameter. Moreover, I was not successful in finding
any documentation about it. There's no more to the new manual than the
chapters on typography, fonts, is there?


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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-06 Thread rogutes
rogu...@googlemail.com (2010-05-05 05:12):
 2. I would like to use something like this for bibliography:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simple_Bibliography#Another_Approach
but adapting it seems too hard for me. Perhaps someone could help? A
very crude example:
 
---
People are writing about this \cite[ref1], (\cite[ref2] - page 25).
 
\startbibliography
  \bibitem[ref1] This is the first reference.
  \bibitem[Daniel, 2004][ref2] This is the second reference.
\stopbibliography
---
 
should be rendered as:
 
---
People are writing about this [1], (Daniel, 2004 - page 25)
 
1. This is the first reference.
2. This is the second reference.
---
 
That is, I want an environment and 2 commands:
  \startbibliography
  \cite [key]
  \bibitem [label_replacing_\cite[key]_but_not_the_item_number] [key]

A bump to my initial question to add that I am using MKIV and a question:
would this be hard to implement for a total ConTeXt newcommer?  What
should he use? TeX / Lua? Would ConTeXt commands be enough?

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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-05 Thread Marius
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:12 AM,  rogu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 G'Day,

 I'm trying out ConTeXt and have come up with 2 questions.

 1. How does one add a dot after the numerals in headings, so that
     \section{First}
   becomes
     1. First
   instead of
     1 First
   ?

\setupheads[sectionstopper=.]
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Re: [NTG-context] simple bibliography and dots after section numbering

2010-05-05 Thread Otared Kavian

On 5 mai 2010, at 09:25, Marius wrote:

 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:12 AM,  rogu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 G'Day,
 
 I'm trying out ConTeXt and have come up with 2 questions.
 
 1. How does one add a dot after the numerals in headings, so that
 \section{First}
   becomes
 1. First
   instead of
 1 First
   ?
 
 \setupheads[sectionstopper=.]

Actually this works only in mkiv, and implies also a dot after the chapter 
numbers and so on. 
If you want only a dot after the section number you may say
\setuphead[section][sectionstopper={.}]

The same thing is possible in mkii, but I don't remember how to do it right now…

Best regards: OK
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