Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
On 16-12-2011 06:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Wait for Hans to fix it and use in the meantime Bold math os somewhat special as we have two variants: 1: a full bold bold math alternartive (only a few math fonts) 2: pseudoboldmath (where we take bold variants in a regular math font) If you say: \setfalse\completeboldmathstrategy at the top of your file then only method (2) is used which is probabkly ok for the purpose. This method is actually provides in order to have a reasonable bolding in titles even if the font does not provide it. Of course bidirectional math adds another axis. (It reminds me that I need to wrap this up in an article.) The reason why the double loading fails is that the underlying machinery sees a difference between regular (pagella) and bold (still modern) and therefore decides that (1) can be applied. I'll try to make this heuristic more clever. Another solution (for WS eyes only: add \definefontsynonym[MathRomanBold][MathRoman] to the palatino mah definition). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
On 16-12-2011 06:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Wait for Hans to fix it and use in the meantime ok. fixed. I also added some tracing so that one can see how bold is treated (although that bit of code itself was ok): \enabletrackers[math.families] i'll upload a beta later today Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
thanks for the effort. i can’t say i understand anything about fonts if i judge from what the results of above suggestions look like: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Cambria] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Ubuntu] [style=sans] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][cambria][style=math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] Well: header math is in unbold cambria, body text in courier or something like this, and the math font features are not used (tiny parentheses around matrices, fraction denominators and numerators are shrunk instead of using small glyphs) \setfalse\completeboldmathstrategy \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[Cambria] \setmathfont[Cambria] \setsansfont[Ubuntu] too slim parentheses, but this is to be expected :D \definetypeface[mainface][rm][specserif][Cambria] \definetypeface[mainface][ss][specsans] [Ubuntu] \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [cambria] \setupbodyfont[mainface] exactly the same as above. slim parentheses in header math, rest working. cambria in the last line only works when lowercase, but is case-insensitive in the rm and ss lines. does this solution disable the completeboldmathstrategy automatically? thanks for the fixes, philipp ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
On 16-12-2011 11:41, Philipp A. wrote: thanks for the effort. i can’t say i understand anything about fonts if i judge from what the results of above suggestions look like: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Cambria] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Ubuntu] [style=sans] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][cambria][style=math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] Well: header math is in unbold cambria, body text in courier or something like this, and the math font features are not used (tiny parentheses around matrices, fraction denominators and numerators are shrunk instead of using small glyphs) \setfalse\completeboldmathstrategy \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[Cambria] \setmathfont[Cambria] \setsansfont[Ubuntu] too slim parentheses, but this is to be expected :D \definetypeface[mainface][rm][specserif][Cambria] \definetypeface[mainface][ss][specsans] [Ubuntu] \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [cambria] \setupbodyfont[mainface] exactly the same as above. slim parentheses in header math, rest working. cambria in the last line only works when lowercase, but is case-insensitive in the rm and ss lines. does this solution disable the completeboldmathstrategy automatically? I dunno ... Wolfgang knows the logic behind simplefonts best Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
Am 16.12.2011 um 11:41 schrieb Philipp A.: thanks for the effort. i can’t say i understand anything about fonts if i judge from what the results of above suggestions look like: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Cambria] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Ubuntu] [style=sans] \definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][cambria][style=math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] Well: header math is in unbold cambria, body text in courier or something like this, and the math font features are not used (tiny parentheses around matrices, fraction denominators and numerators are shrunk instead of using small glyphs) \setfalse\completeboldmathstrategy \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[Cambria] \setmathfont[Cambria] \setsansfont[Ubuntu] I’ll upload a new version of the module. too slim parentheses, but this is to be expected :D \definetypeface[mainface][rm][specserif][Cambria] \definetypeface[mainface][ss][specsans] [Ubuntu] \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [cambria] \setupbodyfont[mainface] exactly the same as above. slim parentheses in header math, rest working. cambria in the last line only works when lowercase, but is case-insensitive in the rm and ss lines. does this solution disable the completeboldmathstrategy automatically? Typescripts and typefaces are case sensitive and \definetypeface[…][…][math][cambria] is not the same as \definetypeface[…][…][math][Cambria]. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
Am 16.12.2011 um 11:58 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 16-12-2011 11:41, Philipp A. wrote: \definetypeface[mainface][rm][specserif][Cambria] \definetypeface[mainface][ss][specsans] [Ubuntu] \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [cambria] \setupbodyfont[mainface] exactly the same as above. slim parentheses in header math, rest working. cambria in the last line only works when lowercase, but is case-insensitive in the rm and ss lines. does this solution disable the completeboldmathstrategy automatically? I dunno ... Wolfgang knows the logic behind simplefonts best This method is a core function and unrelated to simplefonts. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
On 16-12-2011 14:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.12.2011 um 11:58 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 16-12-2011 11:41, Philipp A. wrote: \definetypeface[mainface][rm][specserif][Cambria] \definetypeface[mainface][ss][specsans] [Ubuntu] \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [cambria] \setupbodyfont[mainface] exactly the same as above. slim parentheses in header math, rest working. cambria in the last line only works when lowercase, but is case-insensitive in the rm and ss lines. does this solution disable the completeboldmathstrategy automatically? I dunno ... Wolfgang knows the logic behind simplefonts best This method is a core function and unrelated to simplefonts. It is somewhat .. say that you redefine a typeface in simplefonts and use a fontclass name that has already been used, in that case some caching starts interfering. I now reset a couple of things before a new typeface is defined. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
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2011/12/9 Philipp A. flying-sh...@web.de
hi, i have the following setup:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Cambria]
\setsansfont[Ubuntu]
\setmonofont[Envy Code R][regularfont=envycoder]
\setmathfont[Cambria]
\setuphead[section][style={\ss\bfb}]
\starttext
\section{Wat? $y=x^2$}
\stoptext
why is the math in the header typeset in computer modern instead of ubuntu
and how do i fix it?
PS: preferrably it should be bold, too. there is a wiki page, “Bold Math
in Section Titleshttp://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bold_Math_in_Section_Titles”
but it doesn’t explain how to do it with simplefonts.
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Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
Am 15.12.2011 um 14:36 schrieb Philipp A.:
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2011/12/9 Philipp A. flying-sh...@web.de
hi, i have the following setup:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Cambria]
\setsansfont[Ubuntu]
\setmonofont[Envy Code R][regularfont=envycoder]
\setmathfont[Cambria]
\setuphead[section][style={\ss\bfb}]
\starttext
\section{Wat? $y=x^2$}
\stoptext
why is the math in the header typeset in computer modern instead of ubuntu
and how do i fix it?
PS: preferrably it should be bold, too. there is a wiki page, “Bold Math in
Section Titles” but it doesn’t explain how to do it with simplefonts.
There is no way for me to fix this because it’s a context bug. You can see the
effect with the following example, when you load LM before Pagella the heading
use LM Math but when you load Pagella before LM Palatino math is used for the
heading.
\setupbodyfont[modern]
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\setuphead[section][style={\ss\bfb}]
\starttext
\section{Wat? $y=x^2$} $y=x^2$
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
2011/12/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com
There is no way for me to fix this because it’s a context bug. You can
see the effect with the following example, when you load LM before Pagella
the heading use LM Math but when you load Pagella before LM Palatino math
is used for the heading.
\setupbodyfont[modern]
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\setuphead[section][style={\ss\bfb}]
\starttext
\section{Wat? $y=x^2$} $y=x^2$
\stoptext
Wolfgang
umm, so this happens because this bug exists and simplefonts sets the fonts
on module load?
is there a way to fix it or is an official fix on the way?
thanks for the info,
philipp
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Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts: math in headers
Am 16.12.2011 um 00:13 schrieb Philipp A.:
2011/12/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com
There is no way for me to fix this because it’s a context bug. You can see
the effect with the following example, when you load LM before Pagella the
heading use LM Math but when you load Pagella before LM Palatino math is used
for the heading.
\setupbodyfont[modern]
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\setuphead[section][style={\ss\bfb}]
\starttext
\section{Wat? $y=x^2$} $y=x^2$
\stoptext
Wolfgang
umm, so this happens because this bug exists and simplefonts sets the fonts
on module load?
Yes.
is there a way to fix it or is an official fix on the way?
Wait for Hans to fix it and use in the meantime
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Cambria]
\definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][Ubuntu] [style=sans]
\definesimplefonttypeface[mainface][cambria][style=math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\setuphead[section][style={\ss\bfb}]
\starttext
\section{Wat? $y=x^2$} $y=x^2$
\stoptext
or
\definetypeface[mainface][rm][specserif][Cambria]
\definetypeface[mainface][ss][specsans] [Ubuntu]
\definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [cambria]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\setuphead[section][style={\ss\bfb}]
\starttext
\section{Wat? $y=x^2$} $y=x^2$
\stoptext
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