Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. it is just context

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-21 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are missing from the list ... indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case So ... should I start blackmailing with I'll remove it

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are missing from the list ... indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case So ... should I start blackmailing

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-20 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. it is just context minimals' extra...

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no big deal anyway How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl. for that

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-15 Thread Yue Wang
the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and xsltproc it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own so making mswincontex makes less sense too What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them, like MacTeX shipped its

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-15 Thread Joel C. Salomon
Yue Wang wrote: the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and xsltproc it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own so making mswincontex makes less sense too What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them, like

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-15 Thread Yue Wang
It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. it is just context minimals' extra... minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt. —Joel Salomon

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. it is just context minimals' extra... minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 15.06.2009 um 17:05 schrieb Hans Hagen: it is just context minimals' extra... minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt. there will be a goodies option: --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs but not many more Is it also possible to change --extras=... to --modules=... (or keep

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of conversions, auto downsampling, etc) Hans

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of conversions, auto

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote: For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of conversions, auto downsampling, etc) If I understand well, pstopdf uses

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote: For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of conversions, auto downsampling, etc) If I understand

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote: For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread luigi scarso
If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . luafication will use ghostscript again ? sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote: The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic missing completely ...), hmm strange -- do you have an example ? For wrong paper orientation you can try

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . luafication will use ghostscript again ? sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to convert to pdf, but also to clean

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote: The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic missing

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-14 Thread Yue Wang
btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no big deal anyway How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl. now context script

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang: right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy. of course; at best just include a whole Windows. No, really, before providing everything in some monster install, better provide a Linux VM

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang: right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy. of course; at best just include a whole Windows. No, really, before providing everything in some monster install,

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-13 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello, For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist :

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Kevin D. Robbins wrote: Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++. i have texworks kind of working (stripped and patched set of configuration files) and at some point i will add them to the distribution -

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-12 Thread Yue Wang
right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl wrote: Kevin D. Robbins wrote: Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++. i have texworks kind of working

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Carlos Breton Besnier wrote: stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available? no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the minimals as option - Hans

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-11 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option. Kevin On

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-11 Thread Mohamed Bana
why not support Emacs? AucTeX is mature. Kevin D. Robbins wrote: Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-11 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are as intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that Scite will feel a bit more natural to them. Kevin On Thu, Jun 11, 2009

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-11 Thread Khaled Hosny
TeXworks would be a good choice too, if you want a simple interface that just works. It can be used as a portable application on windows too, and I believe it can combined easily with context minimals. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:06:31PM -0600, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: Well, I and another

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-11 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins krobb...@alumni.princeton.edu wrote: Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not

Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

2009-06-11 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++. Kevin 2009/6/11 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins krobb...@alumni.princeton.edu wrote: Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

2006-01-20 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 1/19/06, Miguel Queiros wrote: http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this particular zip? See isoimage\usr\local\context\tex\setuptex.bat: REM

Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

2006-01-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2006-01-19 um 09:35 schrieb Ville Voipio: Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this particular zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and ready to go? Here is a step by step of how it should

Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

2006-01-19 Thread Ville Voipio
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Thank you, I'm wikifying that. see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation Oh, great if you do it (then I don't need to). Thanks. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Greetings from slightly cool (-22 'C at the moment) Finland. - Ville

Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

2006-01-18 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip is all that I use. Dump it as C:\ConTeXt add it to your PATH, or add a CALL setuptex C:\ConTeXt\tex to you batch files, editor, whatever, before invoking texexec read the README and u're good to go. Just need to be clear on which

Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

2006-01-18 Thread Miguel Queiros
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this particular zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and ready to go? I'm using it. You just

Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

2006-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen
David Arnold wrote: All, At: http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm There is: http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this particular zip? Is

Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

2006-01-18 Thread David Arnold
Hans, I don't see cdwincontext on http://pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm Where can I find it? On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: David Arnold wrote: All, At: http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm There is: http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip Can