Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-07 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Sat, 04 Jun 2011 11:26:37 +0200 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Thank you everybody for your answers. Writing Tr{\a}ger as Thomas suggested works well, but unfortunately, I'm using Mendeley Desktop for the management of my bibtex file and I can't seem to be able to influence the

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-06 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Well, there *is* more than one way to represent ä in UTF-8 If you mean non-shortest forms such as 0xE0 0x83 0xA4 or 0xF0 0x80 0x83 0xA4, then no, they have been forbidden since Unicode 3 in 2000 (formally Corrigendum #1, see http://www.unicode.org/versions/corrigendum1.html). Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-06 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Mon 06 Jun 2011, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Well, there *is* more than one way to represent ä in UTF-8 If you mean non-shortest forms such as 0xE0 0x83 0xA4 or 0xF0 0x80 0x83 0xA4, then no, they have been forbidden since Unicode 3 in 2000 (formally Corrigendum #1, see

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-06 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I was actually thinking of precomposed vs. combining diacritics. I was blissfully unaware of the non-shortest-form problem up until now... Ah, OK. But that's exactly the issue for which canonical equivalence was designed, and in a Unicode-aware version of BibTeX that shouldn't be an issue.

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-04 Thread Julian Becker
Thank you everybody for your answers. Writing Tr{\a}ger as Thomas suggested works well, but unfortunately, I'm using Mendeley Desktop for the management of my bibtex file and I can't seem to be able to influence the way in which it encodes the special characters. @Mojca: Indeed, it also fails if

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-04 Thread Julian Becker
I can also add that in the first case with the author name Träger, the generated bbl-file looks messed up and (Notepad++ doesn't recognize the encoding as UTF8. Changing the encoding to UTF8 manually shows the complete names Träger correctly, but the abbreviations (what should have been Trä06)

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-04 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On 06/04/2011 11:23 AM, Julian Becker wrote: Thank you everybody for your answers. Writing Tr{\a}ger as Thomas suggested works well, but unfortunately, I'm using Mendeley Desktop for the management of my bibtex file and I can't seem to be able to influence the way in which it

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-04 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Sat 04 Jun 2011, Julian Becker wrote: I'm not familiar with the intricacies and details of UTF8 encoding, but is it possible that there is a byte missing from the ä which has been cut off during the abbreviation process? Well, there *is* more than one way to represent ä in UTF-8, but it's

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-04 Thread Julian Becker
I think I'll go for the piping option then, which seems to be the easiest way out. Thanks for the insights, I didn't actually know much about the interplay of context and bibtex until this little problem occured to me... Julian 2011/6/4 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net On Sat 04 Jun 2011,

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-03 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Julian Becker wrote: I came across an issue in context (context ver. 2011.05.18 22:26, LuaTeX ver: beta-0.65.0-2010121421 (rev 4034) ) when trying to cite a bibliography item having an author with a German umlaut ä From btxdoc, which is part of texlive: you

Re: [NTG-context] undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography

2011-06-03 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Fri 03 Jun 2011, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: But I admit it's not easy to know that, bibtex documentation is a real mess Patience please! ‘This document will be expanded when BibTEX version 1.00 comes out’ -- BIBTEXing, February 8, 1988. :-) Pont