*Subject:* Re: DISK BASED BACKUP
Go with the native tools in Windows 2008 and use disks instead.
Depending on which 2008 you can do different things. R2 is better than the
orginal. If the entire server is less than a TB then a simple USB drive.
Jon
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Murray
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: DISK BASED BACKUP
I was able to do 1 TB to a USB drive in less than 8 hours while the machines
were live. That would depend on how you do the work and the version of USB
you are using.
YMMV
Jon
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Murray Freeman mfree
Go with the native tools in Windows 2008 and use disks instead. Depending
on which 2008 you can do different things. R2 is better than the orginal.
If the entire server is less than a TB then a simple USB drive.
Jon
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote:
:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DISK BASED BACKUP
Go with the native tools in Windows 2008 and use disks instead.
Depending on which 2008 you can do different things. R2 is better than
the orginal. If the entire server is less than a TB then a simple USB
drive.
Jon
On Tue, Apr
Perhaps eSATA then.
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DISK BASED BACKUP
I do have multiple servers to be backed up, so I suspect that the USB
interface may be too
I use Netbackup and vRanger (ESX) for backups at 2 different sites. I
hate tapes, so I just set up some iSCSI LUNs and back up to that.
Once a week we copy the Netbackup (or vRanger) images to a couple
large USB drivse and send them offsite.
Works pretty well. Actual file copies can be slow, so
We're getting ready to test Dell RD-1000 devices, both exernal and internal.
The normal external is USB-connected SATA drive, but we've been told we could
get a SAS connection, also. We're using Commvault for our backup software, but
I wouldn't suggest that if you're a small shop; stick to
Sorry, I didn't know what i was thinking about...I meant LTO5 that they will be
release in the coming year...
--- El mié, 16/9/09, Miguel Gonzalez miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es escribió:
De: Miguel Gonzalez miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es
Asunto: RE: Disk based backup
Para: NT System Admin Issues
What makes you think they don't today?
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
All they need to do is upgrade the (on-board) controllers
-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
What makes you think they don't today?
-sc
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Terry Dickson
te...@treasurer.state.ks.us wrote:
Keep an eye on Sata, Sata3 is coming fast and
the speed will a HUGE difference.
Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec?
Even the 3 Gbit/sec we have now is much higher than that. How is
, September 17, 2009 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disk based backup
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Terry Dickson
te...@treasurer.state.ks.us wrote:
Keep an eye on Sata, Sata3 is coming fast and
the speed will a HUGE difference.
Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe
to a more reliable RAID array with a robot. It
always depends on your budget.
Regards,
Miguel
--- El mié, 16/9/09, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com escribió:
De: Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com
Asunto: RE: Disk based backup
Para: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
2009 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
Wow! Had no idea. I've been on eSATA drives for years now, ditched
tapes for the speed and reliability.
Ken, do the restore speeds also show this type of performance?
Because ultimately that's what matters, right
LTO4 has been around for a couple of years. Are you thinking LTO5?
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es]
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
are LTO4 already in the market
So get a workstation with a 4 bay sata hot swap. Basically for the price I
would take a handful of sata drives over tapes. By the time you get a fast
library that can keep up your in the multi thousands.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~
, 2009 11:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
USB connected drives are way too slow. LTO4 alone should get you 5x-6x the
speed of a USB connected drive (YMMV)
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us]
Sent: Wednesday
AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
But now wouldn't eSATA be a good alternative ? I haven't benchmarked
throughput but *should* be as good as internal, right ?
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer
Uh... ya.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es]
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
are LTO4 already in the market? We are getting info that won't be
available until
[mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2009 12:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
You would think esata throughput would be much better. I am looking at a
promise tx4302 pci card that specs 3gb/sec for esata. This is for both the
internal connectors
System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
That's simply the maximum burst throughput range of SATA2 (original SATA was
1.5gbps). There is no way that a single disk can deliver that throughput.
My testing (YMMV) is that eSATA will give you about 1.5x the speed of USB2
Cheers
Ken
time and help!
Evan
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disk based backup
Do you want to do pure D2D? Or would you want to look at Virtual Tape?
Do you have any plans for off-site storage
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
Hi guys,
I wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions... I looked at Exagrid,
DataDoimain and FalconStor, and I think I left out a key fact in my
email... budget! My apologies! Exagrid and DataDomain were in the $18k
to $22k range
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disk based backup
Do you want to do pure D2D? Or would you want to look at Virtual Tape?
Do you have any plans for off-site storage? Or will you
Why not just take some external drives and mount them in whatever you use
(BEX/UB etc) and rotate the drives.
At 79 bucks for a 1TB SATA, or 89 for a USB version, you could do a 5 day
rotation for 2 weeks for 900 dollars if you can get the data on 1tb.
If you want to be more involved do the
USB Drives fast?
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists
li...@levelfive.us wrote:
Why not just take some external drives and mount them in whatever you use
(BEX/UB etc) and rotate the drives.
At 79 bucks for a 1TB SATA, or 89 for a USB version, you could do a 5 day
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
USB Drives fast?
For random access vs. tape? Sure!
Sustained write throughput, not so much...
:-)
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~
: Disk based backup
Why not just take some external drives and mount them in whatever you use
(BEX/UB etc) and rotate the drives.
At 79 bucks for a 1TB SATA, or 89 for a USB version, you could do a 5 day
rotation for 2 weeks for 900 dollars if you can get the data on 1tb.
If you want to be more
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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
USB connected drives are way too slow. LTO4 alone should get you 5x-6x
the speed of a USB connected drive (YMMV)
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li
...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
USB connected drives are way too slow. LTO4 alone should get you 5x-6x the
speed of a USB connected drive (YMMV)
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists
: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
eSata will be about 1.5x what you can get with USB only (assuming you
are copying to a single target disk). I've generally found that USB2
peaks
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Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians Associates, PA
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From: Evan Brastow
Check out Data Domain.
From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Disk based backup
Hi guys,
I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find
anything about this, but
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Sent: Mon 9/14/2009 6:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
Check out Data Domain.
From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Disk based backup
Hi guys,
I did
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Subject: RE: Disk based backup
+1
We have a DD530 here and it has been well worth the cost. A quick glance at
the nightly emails shows that I threw about 2.8TB of raw data at it last Friday
that took about 50GB or so of actual disk space.
From: Martin
Exagrid!
From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Disk based backup
Hi guys,
I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find
anything
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Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup
+1
We have a DD530 here and it has been well worth the cost. A quick glance at
the nightly emails shows that I threw about 2.8TB of raw data at it last Friday
that took about
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