Re: Server Core help

2010-12-22 Thread Justin Thomas
Perfect, Thanks! On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Steven Peck wrote: > Bing search on "How to configure system failure and recovery options in > Windows 2008" > > Came up with http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307973 which is windows 2003 > but similar to > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib

Re: Server Core help

2010-12-22 Thread Steven Peck
Bing search on "How to configure system failure and recovery options in Windows 2008" Came up with http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307973 which is windows 2003 but similar to http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee424384%28WS.10%29.aspx If you modify Step 4 to "wmic RECOVEROS set AutoReboot

RE: Server Core Updates

2010-10-07 Thread Carl Houseman
I'm not familiar with Server Core 2008 R2 per se, but I know Hyper-V R2 which is pretty much managed the same as Core, and there the sconfig.cmd menu has this option: 6) Download and Install Updates If you have that option, choose it and have it search for and install updates. If that d

RE: Server Core

2010-06-06 Thread Malcolm Reitz
in attack surface or in patch requirements is worth the support issues and reduced functionality in many cases. -Malcolm From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 07:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core I've

RE: Server Core

2010-06-06 Thread Malcolm Reitz
.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server Core They sure push Server Core hard in the 70-640 test. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:

RE: Server Core

2010-06-04 Thread Brian Desmond
...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core How do people manage patching on Server Core installations? Can you just apply the GPOs for WSUS in the same way? How do admins "log on" to install updates? On 3 June 2010 21:02, Brian Desmond

RE: Server Core

2010-06-04 Thread Damien Solodow
The SEP client is supported on 2008 Server Core per their documentation. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Personally, other than File servers, Exchange servers, SMTP email servers, and

Re: Server Core

2010-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Personally, other than File servers, Exchange servers, SMTP email servers, and Share Point servers (i.e. servers with user content and access), I haven't had AV detect anything in a number of years. Sample size is about a half-dozen environments ranging from 20 users (5 servers) to 4000 users (300

Re: Server Core

2010-06-04 Thread Christopher Bodnar
I've been reading this thread pretty closely since we will be brining up a 2008 test domain very shortly. My thoughts were to do Core for all the DCs. My concern now is all the client/Agent software that the current DCs require. For example: Adiscon client Asset Insight client Blue Coat proxy

RE: Server Core

2010-06-04 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>How do people manage patching on Server Core installations? Can you just apply >the GPOs for WSUS in the same way? How do admins "log on" to install updates? You can use WSUS, edit the registry, log on and use supplied scripts at the shell. Pretty much no difference. jlc ~ Finally, powerful e

Re: Server Core

2010-06-04 Thread James Rankin
How do people manage patching on Server Core installations? Can you just apply the GPOs for WSUS in the same way? How do admins "log on" to install updates? On 3 June 2010 21:02, Brian Desmond wrote: > *I put ALL DCs on Server Core given the opportunity.* > > * * > > *It also supports lots of ot

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core I thought that even if the server was setup as a Core you could use the GUI interface on a Windows 7 type of machine using the RSAT tools. Is this not the case? Jon On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Andrew S. Baker mailto:asbz...@gmail.com

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Brian Desmond
You can Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core I thought that even if the server was setup as a Core you could use the GUI interface

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Jon Harris
I thought that even if the server was setup as a Core you could use the GUI interface on a Windows 7 type of machine using the RSAT tools. Is this not the case? Jon On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: > Your point is well made, Ben, but many environments that could use Serve

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Richard Stovall
Core Configurator http://coreconfig.codeplex.com/ It's not a panacea by any means, but it does help bring Server Core (and perhaps more importantly, Hyper-V Server 2008 R2) to the table for the rank and file admin. RS ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Brian Desmond
Yep. This becomes even more problematic when you outsource to low cost locations. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Your

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Your point is well made, Ben, but many environments that could use Server Core don't have the requisite scripting skills to manage it either. And companies are not trying to train people these days. And the economy hasn't been helpful of late. But I think that the lack of hotpatching played a ro

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread John Cook
Speaking of which, is there Core edition specific AV? Inquiring minds want to know! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Ben Scott To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thu Jun 03 19:47:47 2010 Subject: Re: Server Core On Thu, Jun 3

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Free, Bob wrote: > What people were saying was, we > want a server with a very limited attack surface to run very specific > infrastructure roles with minimal code running on it so we don't have to > patch/reboot it. .. > There are a lot of servers out there that ar

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server Core Lack of a GIU or support for 3rd party applications wasn't the case for developing core, at least not in the sessions and discussions I attended. Lack of a GUI was not r

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Jon Harris
; > Yes, cert. >> > >> > I had the same attitude, but I am actually enjoying it and learning a >> lot. >> > >> > Each to their own. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message- >> > From: Kurt Buff

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Free, Bob
or web servers or domain controllers it makes a lot of sense. If the hotpatching had come to fruition, I think it would possibly be a different story. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subj

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Joseph Heaton
rcuits to the 2 remote sites. So do I go Server Core with RODCs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Ben Scott Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Free, Bob wrote: > What is interesting is if you ta

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> (And you still can't run it on a serial console.) Not 100% true, 2008 allows one to enable an EMS console. Apparently you can even run PS from the console:) That's about as serial as it gets. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Chyka, Robert
, June 03, 2010 6:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Free, Bob wrote: > What is interesting is if you talk to the product group and PSS the > adoption of Server Core, and RODC for that matter, is abysmal, > particularly based o

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Free, Bob wrote: > What is interesting is if you talk to the product group and PSS the > adoption of Server Core, and RODC for that matter, is abysmal, > particularly based on all the desire for the features from customers > and the amount of dev that went into them

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Free, Bob
: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server Core They sure push Server Core hard in the 70-640 test. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
attitude, but I am actually enjoying it and learning a >> > lot. >> > >> > Each to their own. >> > >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 20

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Jonathan Link
> > Each to their own. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:02 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Server Core > > > > Test? You mean certifi

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
..@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:02 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Server Core > > Test? You mean certification? > > Certs are for the weak. I overcame that need in 1995. > > Kurt > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:57, Chris Blai

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
ystem Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server Core You can run GUIs on Server Core in some cases... Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com> c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:22 PM To: NT S

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
ultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Interesting, and good to know. Still, the more they can support on core, the be

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Blair
Yes, cert. I had the same attitude, but I am actually enjoying it and learning a lot. Each to their own. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Test? You mean

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Brian Desmond
You can run GUIs on Server Core in some cases... Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server Core Server core is good for anything that

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Brian Desmond
I put ALL DCs on Server Core given the opportunity. It also supports lots of other roles so... Personally if I worked in an environment where I had admins who were all sufficiently skilled I'd put every box I could on Server Core, but, I recognize reality. Very few places I've been where this w

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:56 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Server Core > > Interesting, and good to know. Still, the more they can support on > core, the better, IMHO. > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48, Free, Bob wrote: >> Remember the purpose o

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Remember the purpose of core was not to be an application platform but to   >“provide a minimal environment for running specific server roles that reduces >the maintenance and >management requirements and the attack surface for those >server roles.”   >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Blair
They sure push Server Core hard in the 70-640 test. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Interesting, and good to know. Still, the more they can support on core, the

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
d you can't (or at least shouldn't) use it to run custom > applications you've developed in-house. In short, Server Core is not an > application hosting platform. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, Jun

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Jay Dale
r the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server Core >I would a

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I would assume to troubleshoot if there are local issues with connectivity. You can still log on manually to a phys console and execute powershell... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Free, Bob
0 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Uh, So what needs a GUI on top? On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:22, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Server core is good for anything that doesn’t need a gui on top. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michae

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Jay Dale
information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server Core It

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:36 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Server Core > > Exchange? Huh. I would have thought that could be managed remotely. > Interesting. > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:32, Michael B. Smith wrote: >> Exchange for

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
Only from a personal point of view - professionally speaking, I now have less time learn and spend on overtime than I had before, and I'm tied to a more constrained schedule at work. I don't mind that a bit - Wouldn't give up my time with the boy for the ten times the pay, but it crimps the work s

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
--Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Exchange? Huh. I would have thought that could be managed remotely. Interesting. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:32, Michael B. Smith wrote: >

RE: Server Core - answered my own Q

2010-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah. I did that with my question earlier today about printing in Vista. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core - answered my own Q I do that all the time

Re: Server Core - answered my own Q

2010-06-03 Thread Jonathan Link
I do that all the time. The act of phrasing a question for the list generally reorders my mind enough to try a different search pattern. I must have 20 drafts of questions that I start typing out and never finish because the lighbulb goes off before I've clicked send. You do have to send a lot o

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Richard Stovall
Are you kidding? That's *why* there's hope for you. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:47, Joseph L. Casale > wrote: > >>FreeBSD is the non-GUI platform I implement now. > > > > Ahh Kurt, > > There's hope for you yet:) > > Heh. > > I doubt it. I have a

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:47, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>FreeBSD is the non-GUI platform I implement now. > > Ahh Kurt, > There's hope for you yet:) Heh. I doubt it. I have a 9-month old boy... Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>FreeBSD is the non-GUI platform I implement now. Ahh Kurt, There's hope for you yet:) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
m: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:31 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Server Core > > Uh, > > So what needs a GUI on top? > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:22, Michael B. Smith wrote: >> Server core is good for

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
EssentialExchange.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:31 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Server Core > > Uh, > > So what needs a GUI on top? > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 a

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
That's what a lot of former Novell admins used to say, including myself. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core Uh, So what needs a GUI on top? On Thu, Jun 3, 2010

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
: Server Core Uh, So what needs a GUI on top? On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:22, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Server core is good for anything that doesn’t need a gui on top. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssent

Re: Server Core - answered my own Q

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
Which is all the incentive you need to send as soon as you think of a question, right? :) On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:21, David Lum wrote: > I KNEW I’d answer my own question right after hitting SEND: > > > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd184076.aspx > > > > Dave > > > > From: David

Re: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Buff
Uh, So what needs a GUI on top? On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:22, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Server core is good for anything that doesn’t need a gui on top. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:d

RE: Server Core

2010-06-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
Server core is good for anything that doesn't need a gui on top. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server Core Would I be cor

RE: Server Core - answered my own Q

2010-06-03 Thread David Lum
I KNEW I'd answer my own question right after hitting SEND: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd184076.aspx Dave From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server Core Would I be correct in telling my fellow SE

Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

2008-09-26 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
glio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:24 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup > > > > I appreciate the help Michael. > > > > 1. Yes, the destination folder does exist. However, I

RE: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

2008-09-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
, 2008 2:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup I appreciate the help Michael. 1. Yes, the destination folder does exist. However, I also get the same error if I run "wbadmin get disks" just to get a list of the disks...so I'm thinki

Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

2008-09-23 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
;http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael> > > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange > > > > *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 5:59 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* R

RE: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

2008-09-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup Unfortunately this didn't change a thing. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rob Bonfiglio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm doing that as we speak actually...

Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

2008-09-22 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
Unfortunately this didn't change a thing. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rob Bonfiglio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I'm doing that as we speak actuallyrealized that was the one thing I > hadn't removed yet. Just removing the DPM agent didn't do anything for me. > So, while the DPM agent is

Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

2008-09-22 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
I'm doing that as we speak actuallyrealized that was the one thing I hadn't removed yet. Just removing the DPM agent didn't do anything for me. So, while the DPM agent is uninstalled I am removing the feature, rebooting, and then will reinstall the backup feature. I'll let ya know if I have a

RE: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

2008-09-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
Have you tried removing the dpm agent? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, Septemb