Agree with Matt. There could have been real benefits from joining Adobe.
But happy TF stayed independent.



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On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Matt Plec <mp...@mplec.com> wrote:

> Admittedly I'm biased, and a combo with Adobe would have some great
> potential, but overall an independent Foundry sure seems better. There's
> been more than enough consolidation already.
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:41 AM, J Bills <jbillsn...@flickfx.com> wrote:
>
>> Happy ending?
>>
>> https://www.thefoundry.co.uk/about-us/news-awards/the-foundry-announces-new-investment-from-hgcapital
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Howard Jones <mrhowardjo...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There wasn't much to compete with Shake when it died but Nuke filled the
>>> void. There's more out there now then there was then, but this all assumes
>>>
>>> 1. Adobe has bought the foundry
>>> 2. Adobe would have free reign
>>> 3. They would want to squash it
>>>
>>> Still been here before so...
>>>
>>> Howard
>>>
>>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 11:26 pm, Marten Blumen <mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://flowbox.io
>>>
>>> On 29 April 2015 at 10:07, Gustaf Nilsson <gus...@laserpanda.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After Effects! oh, hang on...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Chris Noellert <cnoell...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What competes with Nuke?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Diogo Girondi <diogogiro...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha! It took at least 19 years for Adobe to include interactive round
>>>>> corners for shapes in Illustrator. That is how ridiculous things become
>>>>> once there is no real competitors for a software.
>>>>>
>>>>> On ter, 28 de abr de 2015 at 06:51 Charles Bedwell <
>>>>> charles.bedw...@encorepost.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Adobe doesn't put enough effort into its existing applications. It
>>>>>> wouldn't kick anything into overdrive, it would put everything on the 
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> burner (see Adobe Illustrator for the past 10 years).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Adobe purchased Aldus to obtain Page Maker, but was prevented from
>>>>>> purchasing Freehand for 10 years due to fears it would control the vector
>>>>>> graphics market. 10 years later they purchased Macromedia and left 
>>>>>> Freehand
>>>>>> to die while steadily increasing the price of Illustrator, adding 3 or 4
>>>>>> features per release. Freehand supported multiple pages in 1991.
>>>>>> Illustrator? 2008.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I'll just leave this here: http://adobegripes.tumblr.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 Apr 2015, at 11:20 pm, J Bills <jbillsn...@flickfx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I'd love to see Adobe win the bid.  I think there's a lot of work
>>>>>> to be done leveraging all of that tech across the various apps, and a
>>>>>> company like Adobe could put enough resources to make it happen where I
>>>>>> think the Foundry has had enough to pull the raw ingredients together and
>>>>>> pry these apps out of the studios and out into the open - but to properly
>>>>>> merge them anytime soon, and mass market them correctly to maximize sales
>>>>>> and cross pollination, takes possibly more muscle than they have.  Not to
>>>>>> say that they couldn't get there but Adobe stepping in would kick
>>>>>> everything into overdrive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modo makes a TON of sense for them to finally enter the 3d market
>>>>>> with, since it's got it's hooks firmly planted in the design world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Nuke (and Mari) would make a great base for a Photoshop rewrite.  A
>>>>>> non destructive, truly float capable Photoshop that still maintains
>>>>>> interactivity?  Wow.  We've all known dating back to Shake that this is a
>>>>>> much better way to work, but I imagine any attempt that Apple or anyone
>>>>>> else has ever made at a Photoshop killer was probably met with lots of
>>>>>> patent litigation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Lots more could be done with Katana.  Anyone that worked at Sony
>>>>>> knows it's gold.  Would be cool to see it pushed up the priority list or
>>>>>> further integrated with Nuke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I imagine the real prize for Adobe is Modo, but I'd hope nothing
>>>>>> happens to the purity of Nuke and that they wouldn't strip it for tech 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then leave it for dead, like Avid/Apple/etc.  I had thought the future of
>>>>>> Nuke was relatively safe but I suppose nothing is ever a sure thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hope this isn't the kiss of death.  Fusion makes me cringe (but
>>>>>> the price is right!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ganbar <ron...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would actually be a welcome thing.
>>>>>>> An Adobe purchase might turn out to be a good thing in the end. It
>>>>>>> doesn't all need to end up like Apple buying Nothing Real. It can end up
>>>>>>> like Blackmagic buying Fusion. Who knows.
>>>>>>>  R
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron Ganbar
>>>>>>> email: ron...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
>>>>>>>      +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
>>>>>>> url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Gil Woodley <
>>>>>>> gil.wood...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see a subscription model in the future...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg <
>>>>>>>> elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
>>>>>>>>>  Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev "Jose Fernandez de Castro" <
>>>>>>>>> pixelcowbo...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by
>>>>>>>>>> Adobe...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar <ron...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to
>>>>>>>>>>> get used to illustrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>>>   On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, "Randy Little" <randyslit...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, "Ron Ganbar" <ron...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Macromedia...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Ganbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> email: ron...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnoell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  My favorite snippet:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make the computer-generated characters in Guardians of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Galaxy look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely real *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The company* has recently launched a concept design software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html>*called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be drawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physically built.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar <ron...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Ganbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email: ron...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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