Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-30 Thread Adrian Baltowski
Probably you have access to more recent Alexa but with my footages (2 different, quite recent cameras), with standard ISO 800 and V3LogC linearisation highlight area (like big fire, chimeras, butterflies etc.) are clipped on value around 37. There are higher values- around 50- but that are not

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-30 Thread Neil Rögnvaldr Scholes
Interesting although a strange conclusion for me. When you say Alexa ISO 800 is not acceptable for VFX; surely anything is 'acceptable' - even underexposed 8mm... :) Personally, I'd rather have the stops to play with. N Neil Rögnvaldr Scholes www.neilscholes.com On 30/04/14 14:43,

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-30 Thread Adrian Baltowski
Ha ha, this was my unfortunate shorthand ;) I should rather say that Alexa noise level is, well... not comfortable for me.         W dniu 2014-04-30 16:29:46 użytkownik Neil Rögnvaldr Scholes n...@uvfilms.co.uk napisał: Interesting although a strange conclusion for me. When you say Alexa ISO 800

[Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-29 Thread Schneider, Abraham
Hi there! As we're more used to Alexa footage here, I just wanted to ask about RED, as I have some footage here that let's me wonder about the capabilities of the RED camera: I have some shots with fire, sun, lamps, etc. in my images. Shot with EPIC-X. When importing them into Nuke and

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-29 Thread Schneider, Abraham
Thanks! I assumed all this. Just wanted to make sure there is no mistake in doing one specific way. My main question is: is it true that RED cameras can only deliver/capture highlights that are way darker then what the Alexa does? So in my example, a maximum value of around 4 from the RED

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-29 Thread Randy Little
What happens if you do pdlog in red settings and then use a colorspace node to do loglin. Read node loglin does weird things. Colorspace node seems to work better. On Apr 29, 2014 11:43 AM, Neil Rögnvaldr Scholes n...@uvfilms.co.uk wrote: Ha - this is interesting i don't know the answer but

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-29 Thread Schneider, Abraham
You're suggesting 'RedlogFilm' in the RED settings, right? Doing this and using a separate colorspace to do the Log2Lin gives similar values than using the Read colorspace. My maximum value in the image is lower than 5 compared to the 54 with an Alexa image. Am 29.04.2014 um 18:17 schrieb

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-29 Thread Randy Little
Isnt there a pdlog 685 setting still in red? But it would have change with redlog and color space if it was going to change at all I suspect. (Maybe) On Apr 29, 2014 1:07 PM, Schneider, Abraham aschnei...@arri.de wrote: You're suggesting 'RedlogFilm' in the RED settings, right? Doing this and

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-29 Thread Adrian Baltowski
Just remember that with all digital cameras these are arbitrary logarithmic-like curves applied on top of the linear data captured by the sensor. Currently I'm working on the Alexa footage: night shot with house on fire. With AlexaV3logC curve maximum linearized values of fire are around 36

Re: [Nuke-users] slightly OT: maximum white of RED footage?

2014-04-29 Thread Schneider, Abraham
Hm, don't really get your point. Of course I linearized both footages. If I'd compare linear with log, the values are different. But if I linearize both with the correct curve and have one footage clipping at values below 5 and the other at 54, that's a huge quality difference to me. Of course