[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Melissa Mendonça
Hi all! Happy to say this: *1. We drop pdf builds in CI, the release process and the Docker image, but keep support in the code base.* *2. Rohit volunteered to maintain the pdf build, so if he (or another person we know and trust to receive artifacts from and distribute them) wants to send PRs

[Numpy-discussion] Re: GSoC Student Announcement 2022

2022-05-23 Thread Stefan van der Walt
On Mon, May 23, 2022, at 07:24, Rohit Goswami wrote: > NumPy as a sub-organization under the Python Software Foundation > organization will be mentoring a summer student this year funded by the > Google Summer of Code program. Ralf facilitated the application process > and I will be the primary

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Stefan van der Walt
On Mon, May 23, 2022, at 10:34, Ralf Gommers wrote: > I'm not so interested in the detailed discussion later on in this thread to > be honest. Let me propose a simple solution that should make everyone happy: > 1. We drop pdf builds in CI, the release process and the Docker image, but > keep

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Feng Yu
Furthermore, the PDF docs of numpy (and maybe scipy) can be stripped to a separate project and put on a separate release cycle, not necessarily tracking the releases. On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 10:37 AM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 10:21 AM Lev Maximov > wrote: > >> What do

[Numpy-discussion] Maintenance/1.23.x is branched

2022-05-23 Thread Charles R Harris
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[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 10:21 AM Lev Maximov wrote: > What do you guys think of the chm format ("windows help")? This offline > documentation format is shipped with all python releases (eg > https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3913/). > It is simple to build from a hierarchy of html

[Numpy-discussion] GSoC Student Announcement 2022

2022-05-23 Thread Rohit Goswami
NumPy as a sub-organization under the Python Software Foundation organization will be mentoring a summer student this year funded by the Google Summer of Code program. Ralf facilitated the application process and I will be the primary mentor this year (with Gagandeep for support). Please look

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Ilhan Polat
This goalpost is moving too much. I am not drawing parallels with SciPy to make a point on NumPy. I am using it to give another data point where we did exactly the same thing with zero backlash providing its usage frequency. You might think they are separate but the user base is surprisingly

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Rohit Goswami
The argument is about why one should use PDF on a mobile device. I am not even going to bother with the argument. The world moved on. See any app on your device. Lets agree to not talk about the world here a bit, user profiles vary. I have three browser apps true, but also a bunch of PDF

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Ilhan Polat
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 2:00 PM Rohit Goswami wrote: > The contents are nonresponsive. No tool can fix a native responsiveness > issues. I am familiar with those tools. The questions is why work so hard > when you have the HTML already? > > I'm afraid I don't understand this argument. It is

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Rohit Goswami
The contents are nonresponsive. No tool can fix a native responsiveness issues.  I am familiar with those tools. The questions is why work so hard when you have the HTML already? I'm afraid I don't understand this argument. It is true that PDFs are not responsive without software assistance,

[Numpy-discussion] NumPy community meeting

2022-05-23 Thread Inessa Pawson
The next NumPy community meeting will be held this Wednesday, May 25th at 18:00 (6 pm) UTC. Join us via Zoom: https://berkeley.zoom.us/j/762261535 Everyone is welcome and encouraged to attend. To add to the meeting agenda the topics you’d like to discuss, follow the link:

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Ilhan Polat
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 11:12 AM Rohit Goswami wrote: > I am unaware of the state of the SciPy documentation at the time it was > dropped. However, many of these arguments do not seem to apply to the NumPy > documentation hosted at https://numpy.org/doc/. > They were almost identical, same

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Rohit Goswami
I am unaware of the state of the SciPy documentation at the time it was dropped. However, many of these arguments do not seem to apply to the NumPy documentation hosted at https://numpy.org/doc/. The typography is \\subsubpar (as a TeX person should say) and just an eyesore, this actually

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Ilhan Polat
As the person initiated the PDF drop in SciPy, I'd give my reasoning for why it bugged me in the first place - The typography is \subsubpar (as a TeX person should say) and just an eyesore, this actually matters a lot more than you would assume and unreadable in mobile without constant zooming

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Lev Maximov
What do you guys think of the chm format ("windows help")? This offline documentation format is shipped with all python releases (eg https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3913/). It is simple to build from a hierarchy of html files, it is downloadable, searchable, bookmarkable, has

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:51 AM Matti Picus wrote: > > On 23/5/22 01:51, Rohit Goswami wrote: > > > > Being very hard to read should not be reason enough to stop generating > > them. In places with little to no internet connectivity often the PDF > > documentation is invaluable. > > > > I

[Numpy-discussion] Re: Dropping the pdf documentation.

2022-05-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:31 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 3:52 PM Rohit Goswami > wrote: > >> Being very hard to read should not be reason enough to stop generating >> them. In places with little to no internet connectivity often the PDF >> documentation is invaluable. >> >