Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:40:53PM -0500, Travis Oliphant wrote: The objectors object to any binary ABI change, but not specifically three pointers rather than two or one? Adding pointers is not really an ABI change (but removing them after they were there would be...) It's really just the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Basically, there are two sets of changes as far as I understand right now:        1) ufunc infrastructure understands masked arrays        2) ndarray grew attributes to represent masked arrays I am proposing that we

Re: [Numpy-discussion] f2py with int8

2012-04-17 Thread John Mitchell
Thanks Sameer. I confirmed on my side as well. I will try to understand the why part now. Much appreciated. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Sameer Grover sameer.grove...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday 17 April 2012 11:02 AM, John Mitchell wrote: Hi, I am using f2py to pass a numpy array

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Mark and I will have conversations about NumPy while he is in Austin.   There are many other active stake-holders whose opinions and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] f2py with int8

2012-04-17 Thread Paul Anton Letnes
Ah, come to think of it, I think that f2py only supports literal kind values. Maybe that's your problem. Paul On 17. apr. 2012, at 07:58, Sameer Grover wrote: On Tuesday 17 April 2012 11:02 AM, John Mitchell wrote: Hi, I am using f2py to pass a numpy array of type numpy.int8 to fortran.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] f2py with int8

2012-04-17 Thread John Mitchell
Thanks Paul. I suppose this is now going slightly out of bounds for f2py. What I am looking for is the fortran kind type for a byte. I thought that this was int8. I guess the question is how to identify the kind type. Although I have verified that integer(1) seems to work for me, I would

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Mark and I will have conversations about NumPy while he

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Eric Firing
On 04/17/2012 08:40 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Nathaniel Smithn...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Matthew Brettmatthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Travis Oliphanttra...@continuum.io wrote: Mark and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad to hear that discussion is happening, but please do have it on list.   If it's off list it easy for people to feel they are being bypassed, and that the public discussion is not important. I'm afraid I have

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad to hear that discussion is happening, but please do have it on list.   If it's off list it easy for people to feel they are

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: Right - but that would be an absurd overstatement of what I said. There's no point in addressing something I didn't say and no sensible person would think.   Indeed, it makes the discussion harder. Well, in that

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Matthew Brett
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: Right - but that would be an absurd overstatement of what I said. There's no point in addressing something I didn't say and no sensible

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Tim Cera
I have never found mailing lists good places for discussion and consensus. I think the format itself does not lend itself to involvement, carefully considered (or the ability to change) positions, or voting since all of it can be so easily lost within all of the quoting, the back and forth,

[Numpy-discussion] [Meta] Was: Re: Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
[ Making a separate thread so the NA one can stay on topic, since I haven't actually followed the discussion well enough to contribute on the technical points ] On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: The absurd over-statement is the following: I'm

[Numpy-discussion] All of the PyData videos are now up at the Marakana site

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, A number of you expressed interest in attending the PyData workshop last month and unfortunately we had very tight space restrictions. But thanks to the team at Marakana, who pitched in and were willing to film, edit and post videos for many of the talks, you can access them all here: