As I mentioned before, numpy-related questions would be welcome on scicomp,
and this would have the advantage of bringing in scientists and
mathematicians from related fields who might be able to answer numerical
questions that sit between mathematics, programming, and science that you
might not
+1 on scicomp.stackexchange.com
For it to work, one would need to actively push users towards it though...so it
would require a very clear pronouncement.
Matthew: I'm happy with the split we did with Cython. It leaves me free to
mostly ignore cython-users, and it saves users from thos 100+
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote:
+1 on scicomp.stackexchange.com
For it to work, one would need to actively push users towards it though...so
it would require a very clear pronouncement.
Matthew: I'm happy with the split we did with
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote:
As a matter of interest - do y'all hang out much on stackexchange? I
notice that I often go to stackexchange for a good answer, but it
doesn't seem that good for - discussion. Or maybe it's just I'm not
used to it.
On 6/30/12 12:10 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Brettmatthew.br...@gmail.com
wrote:
As a matter of interest - do y'all hang out much on stackexchange? I
notice that I often go to stackexchange for a good answer, but it
doesn't seem that good for -
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
I'm curious: do you mean using stackexchange.com itself, or using
http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/ specifically?
I meant the latter, which seems like it would be the best suited for
the topic of this discussion.
On 06/30/2012 07:31 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
I'm curious: do you mean using stackexchange.com itself, or using
http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/ specifically?
I meant the latter, which seems like it would be
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote:
It is rumored that a problem with some stackexchange sites is the host
of nay-sayers saying that a question doesn't belong here but in this
other silo instead, instead of just letting a culture develop
On 06/30/2012 08:44 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote:
It is rumored that a problem with some stackexchange sites is the host
of nay-sayers saying that a question doesn't belong here but in this
other silo
I and Geoff are moderators on scicomp, I'm happy to invest the effort in
getting the community started there. One way to use scicomp is like a
blog/faq, that is, if you get a specific question a lot here on the list or
elsewhere, you can ask and answer it yourself on scicomp. If others find
the
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroy jim.vick...@noaa.gov wrote:
As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
This thread is a perfect example of why another list is needed. It's
currently 42 semi-philosophical posts about what kind community numpy
should
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Hunter jdh2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroy jim.vick...@noaa.gov wrote:
As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
This thread is a perfect example of why another list is needed.
On 06/30/2012 09:37 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Hunterjdh2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroyjim.vick...@noaa.gov wrote:
As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
This thread is a
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote:
On 06/30/2012 09:37 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Hunterjdh2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroyjim.vick...@noaa.gov wrote:
As
just some statistics
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/numpy
769 followers, 2,850 questions tagged
a guess: average response time for regular usage question far less than an hour
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/scipy
446 followers, 991questions tagged
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
just some statistics
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/numpy
769 followers, 2,850 questions tagged
a guess: average response time for regular usage question far less than an
hour
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM, John Hunter jdh2...@gmail.com wrote:
This thread is a perfect example of why another list is needed.
+1
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh - dear. I think the point that most of us agreed on was that
having a
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Anecdotal data-point:
I have been happy with SO in general. It works for certain types of
queries very well. OTOH if the answer to the question is known only to
a few and he/she does not happen to be online at time the
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM, T J tjhn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Anecdotal data-point:
I have been happy with SO in general. It works for certain types of
queries very well. OTOH if the answer to the question is known only to
Isn't that what the various sections are for?
Indeed they are, but it still needs active pulling on behalf of
those who would want to answer questions and even then a question can
sink deep in the well. Deeper than what one typically monitors.
Sometimes question are not appropriately tagged.
On 6/30/12 4:23 PM, srean wrote:
Indeed they are, but it still needs active pulling on behalf of
those who would want to answer questions and even then a question can
sink deep in the well. Deeper than what one typically monitors.
Sometimes question are not appropriately tagged. Sometimes it
You can subscribe to be notified by email whenever a question is posted
to a certain tag.
Absolutely true.
So then it is no different than a mailing list as far
as push/pull.
There are a few differences though. New tags get created often,
potentially in a decentralized fashion and
As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
On 6/28/2012 1:42 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Olivier Delalleau sh...@keba.be wrote:
+1 for a numpy-users list without dev noise.
Moderately strong vote against splitting the mailing
Hi List,
this has been brought up several times, and the response has been
generally positive but it has fallen through the cracks. So here are a
few repeat requests. Am keeping it terse just for brevity
i) Split the list into [devel] and [help] and as was mentioned
recently [rant/flame]:
We try to support numpy questions on http://scicomp.stackexchange.com,
which is a StackOverflow site dedicated towards technical computing issues
that gets a fair amount of traffic from mathematicians and computational
scientists. We could always use more questions and answerers :)
A
On Thu,
There are some good ideas here.
I propose splitting this list into devel and users lists.
This might best be done by creating a new list for users and using this list
for development.
Travis
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On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:38 PM, srean
+1 for a numpy-users list without dev noise.
-=- Olivier
2012/6/28 Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io
There are some good ideas here.
I propose splitting this list into devel and users lists.
This might best be done by creating a new list for users and using this
list for development.
Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 15:33:07, Travis Oliphant a écrit :
There are some good ideas here.
I propose splitting this list into devel and users lists.
This might best be done by creating a new list for users and using this
list for development.
I second that idea.
As one of the silent users
Similar to http://scicomp.stackexchange.com there is
http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/ intended for programmers. Darn
it, there are choices involved!
I had proposed http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/ on this mailing
list earlier and no-one seemed interested, but maybe now the
Did you mean http://programmers.stackexchange.com? The meta sites on *.
stackexchange.com are used (as one might guess) for meta discussions on the
site.
A
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Cera, Tim t...@cerazone.net wrote:
Similar to http://scicomp.stackexchange.com there is
You are correct, I meant http://programmers.stackexchange.com/
And on a site like stackexchange I could actually edit my post instead of
my mistake being permanent. :-)
Kindest regards,
Tim
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A little more research shows that we could have a
http://numpy.stackexchange.com. The requirements are just to have people
involved. See http://area51.stackexchange.com/faq for more info.
Kindest regards,
Tim
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If I remember correctly there used to be a stackexchange site at
ask.scipy.org. It might be good to learn from that experience. I think
handling with spam was a significant problem, but am not sure whether
that is the reson why it got discontinued.
Best
srean
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM,
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Olivier Delalleau sh...@keba.be wrote:
+1 for a numpy-users list without dev noise.
Moderately strong vote against splitting the mailing lists into devel and user.
As we know, this list can be unhappy and distracting, but I don't
think splitting the lists
That is really funny. Looking through the posts, there wasn't any spam
(could have been deleted), but it wasn't used as much as I would think.
Have to attract people who answer questions. Early on the registration
seemed to be a problem.
Solace, the software behind ask.scipy.org looks pretty
On 6/28/12 2:46 PM, Cera, Tim wrote:
That is really funny. Looking through the posts, there wasn't any spam
(could have been deleted), but it wasn't used as much as I would think.
Have to attract people who answer questions. Early on the
registration seemed to be a problem.
Solace, the
In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
point out that many open source projects do this. It is not about
claiming that one is more important than the other, nor does it
reinforce the idea that developers and users live in separate silos,
but more of directing the mails
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
point out that many open source projects do this. It is not about
claiming that one is more important than the other, nor does it
reinforce the idea that
Am 28.06.2012 um 23:07 schrieb Matthew Brett:
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
point out that many open source projects do this. It is not about
claiming that one is more important than
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Hanno Klemm kl...@phys.ethz.ch wrote:
Am 28.06.2012 um 23:07 schrieb Matthew Brett:
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
point out that many open source
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote:
I see that sympy, for example, has only one mailing list, and that
works extremely well. I'd be interested to hear from the Cython and
IPython guys as to whether they feel the user / devel split has helped
or hurt.
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com
wrote:
I see that sympy, for example, has only one mailing list, and that
works extremely well. I'd be interested to hear from the Cython
And I continue to think it sends the wrong message.
Maybe if you articulate your fears I will be able to appreciate your
point of view more.
My impression is that, at the moment, we numpy-ers are trying to work
out what kind of community we are. Are we a developer community, or
are we some
Could not have said this better even if I tried, so thank you for your
long answer.
-- srean
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote:
Long answer, I know...
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On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote:
Fernando - you told me a week or so ago that you'd come across a blog
post or similar advocating a single list - do you remember the
reference?
Found it after some digging:
http://www.kitware.com/blog/home/post/263
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
And I continue to think it sends the wrong message.
Maybe if you articulate your fears I will be able to appreciate your
point of view more.
Ah - I'm afraid I don't know how to say what I mean more clearly :(
I can
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
What I like about having two lists is that on one hand it does not
prevent me or you from participating in both, on the other hand it
allows those who dont want to delve too deeply in one aspect or the
other, the option of a
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com
wrote:
Fernando - you told me a week or so ago that you'd come across a blog
post or similar advocating a single list - do you remember the
I'm not on the python mailing lists, but my impression is that python
is in a different space from numpy. I mean, I have the impression
Indeed one could seek out philosphical differences between different
projects. No two projects are the same but they can and often do have
common issues.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
What I like about having two lists is that on one hand it does not
prevent me or you from participating in both, on the other hand it
allows those
I like this solution and I think ask.scipy.org can be revived to take
over that role, but this will need some policing to send standard
questions there and also some hangout time at ask.scipy.org.
I love the stackoverflow model but it requires more active
participation of those who want to
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:50 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:
I like this solution and I think ask.scipy.org can be revived to take
over that role, but this will need some policing to send standard
questions there and also some hangout time at ask.scipy.org.
Sounds like a good idea
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