Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-29 Thread Christopher Barker
I just discovered the: Scipy Superpack for OS X http://trichech.us/?page_id=4 Maybe this will help folks looking for an OS_X Scipy build. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR(206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-27 Thread Christopher Barker
Travis Oliphant wrote: It is the combination of SciPy+NumPy+Matplotlib+IPython (+ perhaps a good IDE) that can succeed at being a MATLAB/IDL replacement for a lot of people. What is also needed is a good package of it all --- like the Enthon distribution. This requires quite a bit of

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-27 Thread pearu
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Christopher Barker wrote: Travis Oliphant wrote: It is the combination of SciPy+NumPy+Matplotlib+IPython (+ perhaps a good IDE) that can succeed at being a MATLAB/IDL replacement for a lot of people. What is also needed is a good package of it all --- like

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-27 Thread Christopher Barker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been working on f2py rewrite to support wrapping Fortran 90 types among other F90 constructs and as a result we have almost a complete Fortran parser in Python. It is relatively easy to use this parser to automatically convert Fortran 77 codes that we have in

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-22 Thread Sven Schreiber
Robert Kern schrieb: Pierre GM wrote: Talking about that, what happened to these projects of modular installation of scipy ? Robert promised us last month to explain what went wrong with his approach, but never had the time... I created a module (scipy_subpackages.py, IIRC) next to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-22 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 10:47:33AM +0100, Sven Schreiber wrote: Please don't feel offended, I just want to make the point (as usual) that this way numpy is going to be a good library for other software projects, but not super-attractive for direct users (aka matlab converts, although I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-22 Thread Christopher Barker
Sven Schreiber wrote: So, to put it pointedly (if that's the right word...?): Numpy should not get small functions from scipy - because the size of scipy doesn't matter - because scipy's modules will be installable as add-ons separately (and because there will be ready-to-use installers);

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-22 Thread Robert Kern
Sven Schreiber wrote: So, to put it pointedly (if that's the right word...?): Numpy should not get small functions from scipy - because the size of scipy doesn't matter - because scipy's modules will be installable as add-ons separately (and because there will be ready-to-use installers);

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-22 Thread Travis Oliphant
Christopher Barker wrote: It can be a pain to build this kind of thing on OS-X, as Apple has not supported a Fortran compiler yet, but it can (and has) been done. IN fact, the Mac is a great target for pre-built binaries as there is only a small variety of hardware to support, and Apple

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-22 Thread Travis Oliphant
Sven Schreiber wrote: Robert Kern schrieb: Pierre GM wrote: So, to put it pointedly (if that's the right word...?): Numpy should not get small functions from scipy - because the size of scipy doesn't matter - because scipy's modules will be installable as add-ons separately (and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-22 Thread Robert Kern
Travis Oliphant wrote: I'm always confused about how to distribute something like SciPy for the MAC. What exactly should be distributed? Is it possible to use distutils to get it done? To get a package format that is actually useful (bdist_dumb just doesn't cut it on any platform,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-21 Thread Sven Schreiber
A. M. Archibald schrieb: On 20/12/06, Alan G Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my most missed functionality in NumPy. (For now I feel cannot ask students to install SciPy.) Although it is a slippery slope, and I definitely do not want NumPy to slide down it, I would certainly not

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-21 Thread Keith Goodman
On 12/20/06, A. M. Archibald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moreover it damages the performance of numpy. For example, dot would be faster (for arrays that happen to be matrix-shaped, and possibly in general) if it could use ATLAS' routine from BLAS. I thought numpy uses ATLAS. Matrix

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-21 Thread Alan G Isaac
A Dijous 21 Desembre 2006 05:59, A. M. Archibald escrigué: It seems to me that numpy should include only tools for basic calculations on arrays of numbers. The ufuncs, simple wrappers (dot, for example). Anything that requires nontrivial amounts of math (matrix inversion, statistical

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-21 Thread A. M. Archibald
On 21/12/06, Alan G Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Dijous 21 Desembre 2006 05:59, A. M. Archibald escrigué: It seems to me that numpy should include only tools for basic calculations on arrays of numbers. The ufuncs, simple wrappers (dot, for example). Anything that requires nontrivial

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-21 Thread Travis Oliphant
Mark Janikas wrote: Thanks for all the input so far. The only thing that seems odd about the omission of probability or quantile functions in NumPy is that all the random number generators are present in RandomArray. A big part of the issue is that getting many of those pdfs into NumPy would

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-21 Thread Pierre GM
On Thursday 21 December 2006 16:10, Travis Oliphant wrote: I much prefer to make SciPy an easy install for as many people as possible and/or work on breaking up SciPy into modular components that can be installed separately if needed. Talking about that, what happened to these projects of

[Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-20 Thread Mark Janikas
Hello all, Is there a way to get probability values for the various families of distributions in numpy? I.e. ala R: pnorm(1.96, mean = 0 , sd = 1) [1] 0.9750021 # for the normal pt(1.65, df=100) [1] 0.9489597 # for student t Any suggestions would be greatly

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-20 Thread Alan G Isaac
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Robert Kern apparently wrote: We have a full complement of PDFs, CDFs, etc. in scipy. This is my most missed functionality in NumPy. (For now I feel cannot ask students to install SciPy.) Although it is a slippery slope, and I definitely do not want NumPy to slide down

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-20 Thread Steve Lianoglou
On Dec 20, 2006, at 8:41 PM, Alan G Isaac wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Robert Kern apparently wrote: We have a full complement of PDFs, CDFs, etc. in scipy. This is my most missed functionality in NumPy. (For now I feel cannot ask students to install SciPy.) If they're already installing

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Newbie Question, Probability

2006-12-20 Thread A. M. Archibald
On 20/12/06, Alan G Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Robert Kern apparently wrote: We have a full complement of PDFs, CDFs, etc. in scipy. This is my most missed functionality in NumPy. (For now I feel cannot ask students to install SciPy.) Although it is a slippery