Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-20 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On May 20, 2012, at 12:15 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > >> > >> > My own plan for the near term would be as follows: >> > >> > 1) Put in the experimental option and get the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Travis Oliphant
On May 20, 2012, at 12:15 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > > > My own plan for the near term would be as follows: > > > > 1) Put in the experimental option and get the 1.7 release out. This gets us > > through the next couple of mo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > > > My own plan for the near term would be as follows: > > > > 1) Put in the experimental option and get the 1.7 release out. This gets > us through the next couple of months and keeps things moving. > > > > The "experimental" option doe

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Travis Oliphant
On May 19, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > After reading all the discussion around masked arr

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Travis Oliphant
>> My own plan for the near term would be as follows: >> >> 1) Put in the experimental option and get the 1.7 release out. This gets us >> through the next couple of months and keeps things moving. > > +1 on not blocking the release while we invent+implement yet another > experimental API. Nobod

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Travis Oliphant
> > My own plan for the near term would be as follows: > > 1) Put in the experimental option and get the 1.7 release out. This gets us > through the next couple of months and keeps things moving. > The "experimental" option does not solve the problem which is that the ndarray object now has m

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Travis Oliphant
On May 19, 2012, at 10:00 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > After reading all the discussion around masked arrays and getting input from > as many peopl

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Travis Oliphant
On May 19, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > After reading all the discussion around masked arrays and getting input from > as many people as possible, it is clear that there is still disagreement > about w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Charles R Harris > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, David Cournapeau >>> wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:17

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Charles R Harris < charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Charles R Harris < >>> charlesr.har...@gmail.com>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Charles R Harris < >> charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> Hey all, A

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > The motivation behind splitting the mask out into a separate ndmasked is > primarily so that pre-existing code will not silently function on NA-masked > arrays and produce incorrect results. This centres around using PyArray_DATA > to get at the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Mark Wiebe
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> After reading all the discussion around masked arrays and getting

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> After reading all the discussion around masked arrays and getting input >> from as many people as possible, it is clear that there is still >> disagreement ab

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Charles R Harris
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > After reading all the discussion around masked arrays and getting input > from as many people as possible, it is clear that there is still > disagreement about what to do, but there have been some fruitful > discussions that en

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-19 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
Travis Oliphant wrote: >Hey all, > >After reading all the discussion around masked arrays and getting input >from as many people as possible, it is clear that there is still >disagreement about what to do, but there have been some fruitful >discussions that ensued. > >This isn't really new as

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-18 Thread Travis Oliphant
The best way to keep in the loop is to comment on this list and pay attention to threads that discuss it.Thank you for speaking up, as I was aware of your significant use of the current masked array in NumPy, but it is good when you can articulate your use-cases and APIs that are helpful or

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masked Array for NumPy 1.7

2012-05-18 Thread Doutriaux, Charles
Travis, We have a significant user base for masked arrays, with a lot of "real-life" experience, use-cases and data. We would really like to get involved on this, please keep us in the loop. C. On 5/18/12 2:47 PM, "Travis Oliphant" wrote: >Hey all, > >After reading all the discussion around