[Numpy-discussion] Numpy 1.4.1 fails to build on (Debian) alpha and powepc

2010-07-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello,
I finally found the time to update numpy in Debian. But, there is a problem...

As you probably know, we support several architectures and we need to
have any package available on each of them. After the upload I noticed
numpy has problem building on alpha [1] (ieee754.c compilation error,
probably related to the conversion from .src) and powerpc [2]
(long_double identification)

[1] 
https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=python-numpyarch=alphaver=1%3A1.4.1-2stamp=1279394977file=logas=raw
[2] 
https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=python-numpyarch=powerpcver=1%3A1.4.1-2stamp=1279394008file=logas=raw

They are quite specific pieces of code, so I'm here asking your help
in order to be able to build numpy on all Debian supported
architectures and so be released in the upcoming stable release :)

Of course, feel free to ask me any kind of support, also if you need
to test/execute something on those archs, just tell me and I'll do.

Regards,
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Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] 1.5.x branched

2010-07-18 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote:

 Dear all,

 Based on patches contributed by Christoph Gohlke, I've created a branch
 for 1.5.x:

http://svn.scipy.org/svn/numpy/branches/1.5.x

 It should be

  a) Binary compatible with Numpy 1.4 on Python 2.x.

 This meant rolling back the datetime and a couple other changes.

  b) Support Python 3.1 and 2.7.

 I expect it will be easy to track changes in the trunk, even if preparing
 the release will still take some time.

 Thanks a lot Pauli and Christoph!

Builds fine on OS X 10.6 with both 2.7 and 3.1, and all tests pass. With one
exception: in-place build for 3.1 is broken. Does anyone know is this is a
distutils or numpy issue? The problem is that on import numpy.__config__ can
not be found.


 Probably best to get started. The changes I want to put in are small
 additions and won't be difficult to backport as long as Ralf doesn't put out
 the first release this evening ;)

 Don't think that's going to happen, but it would be good to discuss the
release schedule. What changes need to go in before a first beta, and how
much time do you all need for that?

Ralf
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] 1.5.x branched

2010-07-18 Thread Pauli Virtanen
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:13:43 +0800, Ralf Gommers wrote:
[clip]
 Builds fine on OS X 10.6 with both 2.7 and 3.1, and all tests pass. With
 one exception: in-place build for 3.1 is broken. Does anyone know is
 this is a distutils or numpy issue? The problem is that on import
 numpy.__config__ can not be found.

The inplace build goes to

build/py3k

I don't think we can easily support inplace build in the main directory.

[clip]
 Don't think that's going to happen, but it would be good to discuss the
 release schedule. What changes need to go in before a first beta, and
 how much time do you all need for that?

I don't have anything urgent.

It might be good to glance through the tickets, however, to see if 
there's something serious pending.

Also, I'm not 100% sure what's the Python 3 status on Windows, so that 
should be checked too.

Pauli 

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[Numpy-discussion] Caching 2to3 results

2010-07-18 Thread Pauli Virtanen
[shameless plug]

For those of you tired of waiting for 2to3 after rm -rf build:

http://github.com/pv/lib2to3cache

and

cd numpy/
USE_2TO3CACHE=1 python3 setup.py build

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[Numpy-discussion] numpy Trac emails

2010-07-18 Thread Ralf Gommers
Scipy Trac seems to work very well now, I get notification emails for
comments on tickets etc. For numpy Trac, nothing right now. Can this be
fixed?

Thanks,
Ralf
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] numpy Trac emails

2010-07-18 Thread Pauli Virtanen
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:59:24 +0800, Ralf Gommers wrote:

 Scipy Trac seems to work very well now, I get notification emails for
 comments on tickets etc. For numpy Trac, nothing right now. Can this be
 fixed?

Works for me.

Did you check if your email address is correct there? (- Preferences)

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[Numpy-discussion] Python 2.7 MSI installer for NumPy

2010-07-18 Thread cool-RR
Hello.

I'd appreciate if the NumPy team could provide an MSI installer for Python
2.7.

Thanks,
Ram Rachum.
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] 1.5.x branched

2010-07-18 Thread Christoph Gohlke


On 7/18/2010 7:52 AM, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:13:43 +0800, Ralf Gommers wrote:
 [clip]
 Builds fine on OS X 10.6 with both 2.7 and 3.1, and all tests pass. With
 one exception: in-place build for 3.1 is broken. Does anyone know is
 this is a distutils or numpy issue? The problem is that on import
 numpy.__config__ can not be found.

 The inplace build goes to

   build/py3k

 I don't think we can easily support inplace build in the main directory.

 [clip]
 Don't think that's going to happen, but it would be good to discuss the
 release schedule. What changes need to go in before a first beta, and
 how much time do you all need for that?

 I don't have anything urgent.

 It might be good to glance through the tickets, however, to see if
 there's something serious pending.

 Also, I'm not 100% sure what's the Python 3 status on Windows, so that
 should be checked too.


I tested MSVC builds of numpy 1.5.0.dev8500 on 32 and 64 bit Python 2.5, 
2.6, 2.7, and 3.1 for Windows.

I general all looks good, including the Python 3 builds.

Numpy 1.5 builds OK with msvc after applying the patch at 
http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/attachment/ticket/1502/msvc_isnan_isinf.patch

Only a few tests fail. Except for one error 
(http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/ticket/1499), all failed tests can 
probably be marked as known. The 32 bit Python 2.5 build shows some 
additional failures due to inf/nan issues but I don't really care enough 
to report them here.

A lot of warnings are printed during the test. Can they be disabled in 
the final release?
Warning: invalid value encountered in sign
Warning: invalid value encountered in fmax
Warning: invalid value encountered in fmin
Warning: invalid value encountered in logaddexp
Warning: invalid value encountered in logaddexp2
Warning: invalid value encountered in maximum
Warning: invalid value encountered in minimum
Warning: invalid value encountered in absolute
Warning: invalid value encountered in equal
Warning: invalid value encountered in less



==
ERROR: test_filename (test_memmap.TestMemmap)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File 
X:\Python26-x64\lib\site-packages\numpy\core\tests\test_memmap.py, 
line 60, in test_filename
 os.unlink(tmpname)
WindowsError: [Error 32] The process cannot access the file because it 
is being used by another process: 
'c:\\users\\gohlke\\appdata\\local\\temp\\mmapgl7bkg'


This error could be due to a Python bug: 
http://bugs.python.org/issue7443. I tried the proposed patches for 
issue7443 without success.


==
ERROR: Ticket #99
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File X:\Python26-x64\lib\site-packages\numpy\testing\decorators.py, 
line 215, in knownfailer
 return f(*args, **kwargs)
   File 
X:\Python26-x64\lib\site-packages\numpy\core\tests\test_regression.py, 
line 145, in test_intp
 np.intp('0x' + 'f'*i_width,16)
TypeError: function takes at most 1 argument (2 given)


Fails on 64 bit Python 2.x only. This test is disabled for Python 3.0+. 
It seems np.intp does not inherit from Python long on win-amd64 
platforms. This can probably be marked as knownfailure for win-amd64. 
See http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/ticket/99.


==
ERROR: test_ldexp (test_umath.TestLdexp)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File 
X:\Python26-x64\lib\site-packages\numpy\core\tests\test_umath.py, line 
363, in test_ldexp
 assert_almost_equal(ncu.ldexp(np.array(2., np.longdouble), 
np.array(3, np.int16)), 16.)
TypeError: function not supported for these types, and can't coerce 
safely to supported types


This also fails for Python 2.5.4, Solaris 8, sparc 32 bits. See 
http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/ticket/1499


==
FAIL: test_special_values (test_umath_complex.TestClog)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File 
X:\Python26-x64\lib\site-packages\numpy\core\tests\test_umath_complex.py, 
line 224, in test_special_values
 assert_almost_equal(np.log(x), y)
   File X:\Python26-x64\lib\site-packages\numpy\testing\utils.py, line 
443, in assert_almost_equal
 raise AssertionError(msg)
AssertionError:
Arrays are not almost equal
  ACTUAL: array([ NaN+2.35619449j])
  DESIRED: (inf+2.3561944901923448j)
  raise AssertionError('\nArrays are not almost equal\n ACTUAL: array([ 
 NaN+2.35619449j])\n DESIRED: (inf+2.3561944901923448j)')


This can probably be marked as a known failure again (as in 1.4.1).


==

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Python 2.7 MSI installer for NumPy

2010-07-18 Thread Peter
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:02 PM, cool-RR cool...@cool-rr.com wrote:
 Hello.
 I'd appreciate if the NumPy team could provide an MSI installer
 for Python 2.7.
 Thanks,
 Ram Rachum.

You're not the only person who would like this - it was discussed
here just 9 days ago, thread title A release for python 2.7?, and
the conclusion was we'd have to wait for Numpy 1.5, probably in
August.

Peter
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Python 2.7 MSI installer for NumPy

2010-07-18 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Peter
numpy-discuss...@maubp.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:02 PM, cool-RR cool...@cool-rr.com wrote:
 Hello.
 I'd appreciate if the NumPy team could provide an MSI installer
 for Python 2.7.
 Thanks,
 Ram Rachum.

 You're not the only person who would like this - it was discussed
 here just 9 days ago, thread title A release for python 2.7?, and
 the conclusion was we'd have to wait for Numpy 1.5, probably in
 August.

It seems that building from the 1.4.x branch works out of the box, so
at least a numpy msi should be straightforward,

David

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[Numpy-discussion] Complex nan ordering

2010-07-18 Thread Pauli Virtanen
Hi,

The current way of Numpy handles ordering of complex nan is not very well 
defined. We should attempt to clarify this for 1.5.0.

For example, what should these return:

r1 = np.maximum(complex(1, nan), complex(2, 0))

r2 = np.complex64(complex(1, nan))  np.complex64(complex(2, 0))

or, what should `r3` be after this:

r3 = np.array([complex(3, nan), complex(1, 0), complex(nan, 2)])
r3.sort()

Previously, we have defined a lexical ordering relation for complex 
numbers,

x  y  iff  x.real  y.real or (x.real == y.real and x.imag  y.imag)

but applying this to the above can cause some surprises:

amax([1, 2, 4, complex(3, nan)]) == 4

which breaks nan propagation, and moreover the result depends on the 
order of the items, and the precise way the algorithm is written.

***

Numpy IIRC has specified a lexical order between complex numbers for some 
time now, unlike Python in which complex numbers are unordered.

So we won't change how finite numbers are handled, only the nan handling 
needs to be specified.

***

I suggest the following, aping the way the real nan works:

- (z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan), where z is any fp value, are all
  equivalent representations of cnan, as far as comparisons, sort
  order, etc are concerned. 

- The ordering between (z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan) is undefined. This
  means e.g. that maximum([cnan_1, cnan_2]) can return either cnan_1 or
  cnan_2 if both are some cnans.

- Moreover, all comparisons , , ==, =, = where one or more operands
  is a cnan are false.

- Except that when sorting, cnans are to be placed last.

The advantages are now that nan propagation is now easier to implement, 
and we get faster code. Moreover, complex nans start to behave more 
similarly as their real counterparts in comparisons etc.; for instance in 
the above cases

r1 = (1, nan)
r2 = False
r3 = [complex(1, 0), complex(3, nan), complex(nan, 2)]

where in `r3` the order of the last two elements is unspecified.

This is in fact the SVN trunk now works (final tweaks in r8508, 8509). 

Comments are welcome.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Complex nan ordering

2010-07-18 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote:

 Hi,

 The current way of Numpy handles ordering of complex nan is not very well
 defined. We should attempt to clarify this for 1.5.0.

 For example, what should these return:

r1 = np.maximum(complex(1, nan), complex(2, 0))

r2 = np.complex64(complex(1, nan))  np.complex64(complex(2, 0))

 or, what should `r3` be after this:

r3 = np.array([complex(3, nan), complex(1, 0), complex(nan, 2)])
r3.sort()

 Previously, we have defined a lexical ordering relation for complex
 numbers,

x  y  iff  x.real  y.real or (x.real == y.real and x.imag  y.imag)

 but applying this to the above can cause some surprises:

amax([1, 2, 4, complex(3, nan)]) == 4

 which breaks nan propagation, and moreover the result depends on the
 order of the items, and the precise way the algorithm is written.

***

 Numpy IIRC has specified a lexical order between complex numbers for some
 time now, unlike Python in which complex numbers are unordered.

 So we won't change how finite numbers are handled, only the nan handling
 needs to be specified.

***

 I suggest the following, aping the way the real nan works:

 - (z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan), where z is any fp value, are all
  equivalent representations of cnan, as far as comparisons, sort
  order, etc are concerned.


- The ordering between (z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan) is undefined. This
  means e.g. that maximum([cnan_1, cnan_2]) can return either cnan_1 or
  cnan_2 if both are some cnans.


The sort and cmp order was defined in 1.4.0, see the release notes. (z,z),
(z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan) are in correct order and there are tests to
enforce this. Sort and searchsorted need to work together.

- Moreover, all comparisons , , ==, =, = where one or more operands
  is a cnan are false.


- Except that when sorting, cnans are to be placed last.


And in sort order.


 The advantages are now that nan propagation is now easier to implement,
 and we get faster code. Moreover, complex nans start to behave more
 similarly as their real counterparts in comparisons etc.; for instance in
 the above cases

r1 = (1, nan)
r2 = False
r3 = [complex(1, 0), complex(3, nan), complex(nan, 2)]

 where in `r3` the order of the last two elements is unspecified.

 This is in fact the SVN trunk now works (final tweaks in r8508, 8509).


Chuck
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Python 2.7 MSI installer for NumPy

2010-07-18 Thread Christoph Gohlke



On 7/18/2010 2:20 PM, David Cournapeau wrote:

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Peter
numpy-discuss...@maubp.freeserve.co.uk  wrote:

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:02 PM, cool-RRcool...@cool-rr.com  wrote:

Hello.
I'd appreciate if the NumPy team could provide an MSI installer
for Python 2.7.
Thanks,
Ram Rachum.


You're not the only person who would like this - it was discussed
here just 9 days ago, thread title A release for python 2.7?, and
the conclusion was we'd have to wait for Numpy 1.5, probably in
August.


It seems that building from the 1.4.x branch works out of the box, so
at least a numpy msi should be straightforward,



Binaries built from the numpy 1.4.x branch do crash on Python 2.7 
because of this: http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/ticket/1345. The fix is 
easy to backport (attached). Until yesterday another reason not to 
release numpy 1.4.1 binaries for Python 2.7 was the projected use of 
PyCapsule instead of PyCObject in numpy 1.5+.


--
Christoph
Index: src/multiarray/numpyos.c
=
--- src/multiarray/numpyos.c(revision 8498)
+++ src/multiarray/numpyos.c(working copy)
@@ -418,6 +418,32 @@
 return 0;
 }

+/*
+ * _NumPyOS_ascii_strtod_plain:
+ *
+ * PyOS_ascii_strtod work-alike, with no enhanced features,
+ * for forward compatibility with Python = 2.7
+ */
+static double
+NumPyOS_ascii_strtod_plain(const char *s, char** endptr)
+{
+double result;
+#if PY_VERSION_HEX = 0x0207
+NPY_ALLOW_C_API_DEF
+NPY_ALLOW_C_API
+result = PyOS_string_to_double(s, endptr, NULL);
+if (PyErr_Occurred()) {
+if (endptr) {
+*endptr = (char*)s;
+}
+PyErr_Clear();
+}
+NPY_DISABLE_C_API
+#else
+result = PyOS_ascii_strtod(s, endptr);
+#endif
+return result;
+}

 /*
  * NumPyOS_ascii_strtod:
@@ -506,7 +532,7 @@
 }
 memcpy(buffer, s, n);
 buffer[n] = '\0';
-result = PyOS_ascii_strtod(buffer, q);
+result = NumPyOS_ascii_strtod_plain(buffer, q);
 if (endptr != NULL) {
 *endptr = (char*)(s + (q - buffer));
 }
@@ -515,7 +541,7 @@
 }
 /* End of ##2 */

-return PyOS_ascii_strtod(s, endptr);
+return NumPyOS_ascii_strtod_plain(s, endptr);
 }
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[Numpy-discussion] Complex128

2010-07-18 Thread Ross Harder
I don't understand the following.
 a=np.zeros( (3,3,3), dtype='Complex128')
 a
array([[[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j]],

   [[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j]],

   [[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j]]], dtype=complex256)

i ask for Complex128 and get complex256?

if i ask for complex128 (little c) I get complex128
if i ask for complex (little c) i get complex128
if i ask for Complex (cap C) i get unrecognized type
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Complex nan ordering

2010-07-18 Thread Pauli Virtanen
Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:57:47 -0600, Charles R Harris wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote:
[clip]
 I suggest the following, aping the way the real nan works:

 - (z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan), where z is any fp value, are all
  equivalent representations of cnan, as far as comparisons, sort
  order, etc are concerned.

 - The ordering between (z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan) is undefined. This
  means e.g. that maximum([cnan_1, cnan_2]) can return either cnan_1 or
  cnan_2 if both are some cnans.

 The sort and cmp order was defined in 1.4.0, see the release notes.
 (z,z), (z, nan), (nan, z), (nan, nan) are in correct order and there are
 tests to enforce this. Sort and searchsorted need to work together.

Ok, now we're diving into an obscure corner that hopefully many people 
don't care about :)

There are several issues here:

1) We should not use lexical order in comparison operations,
   since this contradicts real-valued nan arithmetic.

   Currently (and in 1.4) we do some weird sort of mixture,
   which seems inconsistent.

2) maximum/minimum should propagate nans, fmax/fmin should not

3) sort/searchsorted, and amax/argmax need to play together

4) as long as 1)-3) are valid, I don't think anybody cares what
   what exactly we mean by a complex nan, as long as

   np.isnan(complex nan) == True

   The fact that there are happen to be several different representations
   of a complex nan should not be important.

***

1) 

Unless we want to define

(complex(nan, 0)  complex(0, 0)) == True

we cannot strictly follow the lexical order in comparisons. And if we 
define it like this, we contradict real-valued nan arithmetic, which IMHO 
is quite bad.

Here, it would make sense to me to lump all the different complex nans 
into a single cnan, as far as the arithmetic comparison operations are 
concerned. Then,

z OP cnan == False

for all comparison operations.

In 1.4.1 we have

 import numpy as np
 np.__version__
'1.4.1'
 x = np.complex64(complex(np.nan, 1))
 y = np.complex64(complex(0, 1))
 x = y
False
 x  y
False
 x = np.complex64(complex(1, np.nan))
 y = np.complex64(complex(0, 1))
 x = y
True
 x  y
False

which seems an obscure mix of real-valued nan arithmetic and lexical 
ordering -- I don't think it's the correct choice...

Of course, the practical importance of this decision approaches zero, but 
it would be nice to be consistent.

***

2)

For maximum/amax, strict lexical order contradicts nan propagation:

maximum(1+nan*j, 2+0j) == 2+0j  ???

I don't see why we should follow the lexical order when both arguments 
are nans. The implementation will be faster if we don't.

Also, this way argmax (which should be nan-propagating) can stop looking 
once it finds the first nan -- and it does not need to care if later on 
in the array there would be a greater nan.

***

3)

For sort/searchsorted we have a technical reason to do something more, 
and there the strict lexical order seems the correct decision.

For `argmax` it was possible to be compatible with `amax` when lumping 
cnans in maximum -- just return the first cnan.

***

4)

As far as np.isnan is concerned,

 np.isnan(complex(0, nan))
True
 np.isnan(complex(nan, 0))
True
 np.isnan(complex(nan, nan))
True

So I think nobody should care which complex nan a function such as 
maximum or amax returns. 

We can of course give up some performance to look for the greatest nan 
in these cases, but I do not think that it would be very worthwhile.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Complex128

2010-07-18 Thread Ross Harder
mac os x leopard 10.5..
EPD installed

i just don't understand why i get one thing when i ask for another.
i can get what i want, but only by not asking for it.

thanks,
Ross


On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote:
 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0500, Ross Harder wrote:
 I don't understand the following.
 a=np.zeros( (3,3,3), dtype='Complex128')
 a
 array([[[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
         [0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
         [0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j]],

        [[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
         [0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
         [0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j]],

        [[0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
         [0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j],
         [0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j, 0.0+0.0j]]], dtype=complex256)

 i ask for Complex128 and get complex256?

 What platform? On Win-64 longdouble == double.

 Of course, the byte-width names should still reflect the reality. Please
 file a bug ticket...

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[Numpy-discussion] numpy 1.5 or 2.0

2010-07-18 Thread Nadav Horesh

What is the difference between these two versions? I usually check out the svn 
version (now 2.0) and it compiles well with python 2.6, 2.7 and 3.1.


   Nadav.
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