Re: [Numpy-discussion] C99 compatible complex number tests fail

2014-01-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Matti Picus matti.pi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi. I started to port the stdlib cmath C99 compatible complex number
 tests to numpy, after noticing that numpy seems to have different
 complex number routines than cmath. The work is available on a
 retest_complex branch of numpy
 https://github.com/mattip/numpy/tree/retest_complex
 The tests can be run by pulling the branch (no need to rebuild numpy)
 and running

 python path-to-branch/numpy/core/tests/test_umath_complex.py 
 test.log 21

 So far it is just a couple of  commits that run the tests on numpy, I
 did not dive into modifying the math routines. If I did the work
 correctly, failures point to some differences, most due to edge cases
 with inf and nan, but there are a number of failures due to different
 finite values (for some small definition of different).
 I guess my first question is did I do the tests properly.


They work fine, however you did it in a nonstandard way which makes the
output hard to read. Some comments:
- the assert_* functions expect actual as first input and desired next,
while you have them reversed.
- it would be good to split those tests into multiple cases, for example
one per function to be tested.
- you shouldn't print anything, just let it fail. If you want to see each
individual failure, use generator tests.
- the cmathtestcases.txt is a little nonstandard but should be OK to keep
it like that.

Assuming I did, the next question is are the inconsistencies
 intentional i.e. are they that way in order to be compatible with
 Matlab  or some other non-C99 conformant library?


The implementation should conform to IEEE 754.


 For instance, a comparison between the implementation of cmath's sqrt
 and numpy's sqrt shows that numpy does not check for subnormals.


I suspect no handling for denormals was done on purpose, since that should
have a significant performance penalty. I'm not sure about other
differences, probably just following a different reference.

And I am probably mistaken since I am new to the generator methods of numpy,
 but could it be that trigonometric functions like acos and acosh are
 generated in umath/funcs.inc.src, using a very different algorithm than
 cmathmodule.c?


You're not mistaken.


 Would there be interest in a pull request that changed the routines to
 be more compatible with results from cmath?


I don't think compatibility with cmath should be a goal, but if you find
differences where cmath has a more accurate or faster implementation, then
a PR to adopt the cmath algorithm would be very welcome.

Ralf
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] C99 compatible complex number tests fail

2014-01-04 Thread Eric Moore
On Saturday, January 4, 2014, Ralf Gommers wrote:




 On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Matti Picus 
 matti.pi...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'matti.pi...@gmail.com');
  wrote:

 Hi. I started to port the stdlib cmath C99 compatible complex number
 tests to numpy, after noticing that numpy seems to have different
 complex number routines than cmath. The work is available on a
 retest_complex branch of numpy
 https://github.com/mattip/numpy/tree/retest_complex
 The tests can be run by pulling the branch (no need to rebuild numpy)
 and running

 python path-to-branch/numpy/core/tests/test_umath_complex.py 
 test.log 21

 So far it is just a couple of  commits that run the tests on numpy, I
 did not dive into modifying the math routines. If I did the work
 correctly, failures point to some differences, most due to edge cases
 with inf and nan, but there are a number of failures due to different
 finite values (for some small definition of different).
 I guess my first question is did I do the tests properly.


 They work fine, however you did it in a nonstandard way which makes the
 output hard to read. Some comments:
 - the assert_* functions expect actual as first input and desired
 next, while you have them reversed.
 - it would be good to split those tests into multiple cases, for example
 one per function to be tested.
 - you shouldn't print anything, just let it fail. If you want to see each
 individual failure, use generator tests.
 - the cmathtestcases.txt is a little nonstandard but should be OK to keep
 it like that.

 Assuming I did, the next question is are the inconsistencies
 intentional i.e. are they that way in order to be compatible with
 Matlab  or some other non-C99 conformant library?


 The implementation should conform to IEEE 754.


 For instance, a comparison between the implementation of cmath's sqrt
 and numpy's sqrt shows that numpy does not check for subnormals.


 I suspect no handling for denormals was done on purpose, since that should
 have a significant performance penalty. I'm not sure about other
 differences, probably just following a different reference.

 And I am probably mistaken since I am new to the generator methods of
 numpy,
 but could it be that trigonometric functions like acos and acosh are
 generated in umath/funcs.inc.src, using a very different algorithm than
 cmathmodule.c?


 You're not mistaken.


 Would there be interest in a pull request that changed the routines to
 be more compatible with results from cmath?


 I don't think compatibility with cmath should be a goal, but if you find
 differences where cmath has a more accurate or faster implementation, then
 a PR to adopt the cmath algorithm would be very welcome.

 Ralf


Have you seen  https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/3010 ?  This adds C99
compatible complex functions and tests with build time checking if the
system provided functions can pass our tests.

I should have some time to get back to it soon, but somemore eyes and tests
and input would be good. Especially since it's not clear to me if all of
the changes will be accepted.

Eric
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[Numpy-discussion] C99 compatible complex number tests fail

2013-12-22 Thread Matti Picus
Hi. I started to port the stdlib cmath C99 compatible complex number 
tests to numpy, after noticing that numpy seems to have different 
complex number routines than cmath. The work is available on a 
retest_complex branch of numpy
https://github.com/mattip/numpy/tree/retest_complex
The tests can be run by pulling the branch (no need to rebuild numpy) 
and running

python path-to-branch/numpy/core/tests/test_umath_complex.py  
test.log 21

So far it is just a couple of  commits that run the tests on numpy, I 
did not dive into modifying the math routines. If I did the work 
correctly, failures point to some differences, most due to edge cases 
with inf and nan, but there are a number of failures due to different 
finite values (for some small definition of different).
I guess my first question is did I do the tests properly.
Assuming I did, the next question is are the inconsistencies 
intentional i.e. are they that way in order to be compatible with 
Matlab  or some other non-C99 conformant library?

For instance, a comparison between the implementation of cmath's sqrt 
and numpy's sqrt shows that numpy does not check for subnormals. And I 
am probably mistaken since I am new to the generator methods of numpy, 
but could it be that trigonometric functions like acos and acosh are 
generated in umath/funcs.inc.src, using a very different algorithm than 
cmathmodule.c?

Would there be interest in a pull request that changed the routines to 
be more compatible with results from cmath?
Matti

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