Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Robert Kern
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Todd wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> Ever notice how Anaconda doesn't provide pyfftw? They can't legally ship both MKL and pyfftw, and they picked MKL. > > Anaconda does ship GPL code [1]. They even ship GPL code that de

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Todd
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Ever notice how Anaconda doesn't provide pyfftw? They can't legally ship > both MKL and pyfftw, and they picked MKL. Anaconda does ship GPL code [1]. They even ship GPL code that depends on numpy, such as cvxcanon and pystan, and there

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Oct 27, 2016 8:42 AM, "Robert McLeod" wrote: > > Releasing NumPy under GPL would make it incompatible with SciPy, which may be _slightly_ inconvenient to the scientific Python community: > > https://scipy.github.io/old-wiki/pages/License_Compatibility.html > > https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/s

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Julian Taylor
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Todd
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Robert McLeod
>> <mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org>>] *On Behalf Of *Todd >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:04 PM >> *To:* Discussion of Numerical Python >> mailto:numpy-discussion@scipy.org> >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Julian Taylor
cussion@scipy.org>>> *Subject:* Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Pavlyk, Oleksandr mailto:oleksandr.pav...@intel.com> <mailto:oleksandr.pav...@intel.com <m

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Todd
<mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org>] *On Behalf Of *Todd >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:04 PM >> *To:* Discussion of Numerical Python > <mailto:numpy-discussion@scipy.org>> >> *Subject:* Re: [Numpy-discussi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Julian Taylor
:* Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Pavlyk, Oleksandr mailto:oleksandr.pav...@intel.com>> wrote: Another point already raised by Nathaniel is that for numpy's randomness ideal

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Todd
-boun...@scipy.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Todd >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:04 PM >> *To:* Discussion of Numerical Python >> *Subject:* Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Pavlyk, O

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-27 Thread Ralf Gommers
*To:* Discussion of Numerical Python > *Subject:* Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Pavlyk, Oleksandr < > oleksandr.pav...@intel.com> wrote: > > Another point already raised by Nathaniel is that for numpy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Pavlyk, Oleksandr
Please see responses inline. From: NumPy-Discussion [mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of Todd Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:04 PM To: Discussion of Numerical Python Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Pavlyk

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Todd
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Pavlyk, Oleksandr < oleksandr.pav...@intel.com> wrote: > > The module under review, similarly to randomstate package, provides > alternative basic pseudo-random number generators (BRNGs), like MT2203, > MCG31, MRG32K3A, Wichmann-Hill. The scope of support differ, w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Pavlyk, Oleksandr
of Numerical Python Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Julian Taylor wrote: > On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: >> >> On 10/26/2016 10:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >>> >>> &

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Warren Weckesser wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Julian Taylor >> wrote: >> > On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/26/2016 10:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >> >>>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Warren Weckesser < warren.weckes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> The patch also adds ~10,000 lines of code; here's an example of what >> some of it looks like: >> >> https://github.com/oleksandr-pavlyk/numpy/blo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Warren Weckesser
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Julian Taylor > wrote: > > On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: > >> > >> On 10/26/2016 10:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Julian Taylor > >>> ma

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Julian Taylor wrote: > On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: >> >> On 10/26/2016 10:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Julian Taylor >>> mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 26.10.2016 06:3

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Sebastian Berg wrote: > > On Mi, 2016-10-26 at 09:29 -0700, Robert Kern wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Julian Taylor > mail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: > > > > >> I prefer for the full functionality of numpy to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Sebastian Berg
On Mi, 2016-10-26 at 09:29 -0700, Robert Kern wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Julian Taylor mail.com> wrote: > > > > On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: > > >> I prefer for the full functionality of numpy to stay available > with a > >> stack of community owned software, even i

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Julian Taylor < jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: >> I prefer for the full functionality of numpy to stay available with a >> stack of community owned software, even if it may be less powerful that >> way. > > Bu

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Julian Taylor
On 10/26/2016 06:00 PM, Julian Taylor wrote: On 10/26/2016 10:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Julian Taylor mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com>> wrote: On 26.10.2016 06:34, Charles R Harris wrote: > Hi All, > > There is a proposed random number pa

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Julian Taylor
On 10/26/2016 10:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Julian Taylor mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com>> wrote: On 26.10.2016 06:34, Charles R Harris wrote: > Hi All, > > There is a proposed random number package PR now up on github: > https://githu

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Julian Taylor < jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On 26.10.2016 06:34, Charles R Harris wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > There is a proposed random number package PR now up on github: > > https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/8209. It is from > > oleksandr-pavlyk

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-26 Thread Julian Taylor
On 26.10.2016 06:34, Charles R Harris wrote: > Hi All, > > There is a proposed random number package PR now up on github: > https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/8209. It is from > oleksandr-pavlyk and implements > the number random number package using MKL for

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-25 Thread Robert Kern
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Charles R Harris < charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Robert Kern wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Charles R Harris < charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi All, >> > >> > There is a proposed random number

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-25 Thread Charles R Harris
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Robert Kern wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > There is a proposed random number package PR now up on github: > https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/8209. It is from > > oleksand

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-25 Thread Robert Kern
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > Hi All, > > There is a proposed random number package PR now up on github: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/8209. It is from > oleksandr-pavlyk and implements the number random number package using MKL for increased speed. I think we

[Numpy-discussion] Intel random number package

2016-10-25 Thread Charles R Harris
Hi All, There is a proposed random number package PR now up on github: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/8209. It is from oleksandr-pavlyk and implements the number random number package using MKL for increased speed. I think we are definitely interested in