Hi,
Up to now, I didn't post frequently to this mailing list. So I present
myself a little bit. I'm Frédéric Bastien, one of Theano senior
developer. I'm not a student nor a professor, but a staff of our lab.
So I more time for Theano then most people in our lab, but I have
other work too.
From
How about:
* http://www.hotpy.org/
* http://pypy.org/numpydonate.html
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:14 PM, mark florisson
markflorisso...@gmail.comwrote:
On 20 March 2012 20:49, Olivier Delalleau sh...@keba.be wrote:
I doubt Theano is already as smart as you'd want it to be right now,
however
On 03/25/2012 08:44 PM, Mic wrote:
How about:
* http://www.hotpy.org/
The front page says a 10x speedup. That's a bit short of the almost
1000x speedup required for numerical code (that is, for some examples
Python is thousands of times slower than C or Fortran).
Well -- I'm sure hotpy could
On 21 March 2012 05:20, Dag Sverre Seljebotn d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote:
On 03/20/2012 12:56 PM, Francesc Alted wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
Francesc Altedfranc...@continuum.io wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:49 PM, mark florisson wrote:
Cython and
On 20 March 2012 20:49, Olivier Delalleau sh...@keba.be wrote:
I doubt Theano is already as smart as you'd want it to be right now, however
the core mechanisms are there to perform graph optimizations and move
computations to GPU. It may save time to start from there instead of
starting all
On 13 March 2012 18:18, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote:
(Mark F., how does the above match how you feel about this?)
I would like collaboration, but from a technical perspective I think
this would be much more involved than just dumping the AST to an IR
and generating some code
This sounds a lot like Theano, did you look into it?
-=- Olivier
Le 20 mars 2012 13:49, mark florisson markflorisso...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 13 March 2012 18:18, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote:
(Mark F., how does the above match how you feel about this?)
I would like
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:49 PM, mark florisson wrote:
Cython and Numba certainly overlap. However, Cython requires:
1) learning another language
2) creating an extension module --- loading bit-code files and
dynamically executing (even on a different machine from the one that
We talked some about Theano. There are some differences in project goals which
means that it makes sense to make this a seperate project: Cython wants to use
this to generate C code up front from the Cython AST at compilation time; numba
also has a different frontend (parsing of python
Sorry, forgot to CC list on this. Lines staring with single greater-than are
mine.
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Dag Sverre Seljebotn d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote:
Francesc Alted franc...@continuum.io wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:49 PM, mark
I doubt Theano is already as smart as you'd want it to be right now,
however the core mechanisms are there to perform graph optimizations and
move computations to GPU. It may save time to start from there instead of
starting all over from scratch. I'm not sure though, but it looks like it
would be
On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
Francesc Alted franc...@continuum.io wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:49 PM, mark florisson wrote:
Cython and Numba certainly overlap. However, Cython requires:
1) learning another language
2) creating an extension module
On 03/20/2012 12:56 PM, Francesc Alted wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
Francesc Altedfranc...@continuum.io wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:49 PM, mark florisson wrote:
Cython and Numba certainly overlap. However, Cython requires:
1) learning another
On 03/20/2012 09:20 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
On 03/20/2012 12:56 PM, Francesc Alted wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
Francesc Altedfranc...@continuum.io wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:49 PM, mark florisson wrote:
Cython and Numba certainly overlap.
On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
On 03/10/2012 10:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote:
Hey all,
I gave a lightning talk this morning on numba which is the start of a
Python compiler to machine code through the LLVM tool-chain. It is proof
of concept stage only at this
On 13 March 2012 09:19, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote:
On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
On 03/10/2012 10:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote:
Hey all,
I gave a lightning talk this morning on numba which is the start of a
Python compiler to machine code
(Mark F., how does the above match how you feel about this?)
I would like collaboration, but from a technical perspective I think
this would be much more involved than just dumping the AST to an IR
and generating some code from there. For vector expressions I think
sharing code would be
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote:
Cython and Numba certainly overlap. However, Cython requires:
1) learning another language
So is the goal for numba to actually handle arbitrary Python code with
correct semantics, i.e., it's actually a
As far as I understand, the goal is not to handle arbitrary
Python code, because this would become too difficult as is
not necessary when you have a simple math oriented function
which you want to speed up. The idea is to create something
similar to http://www.enthought.com/~ischnell/paper.html
Doesent Theano does the same, only via GCC compilation?
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One major difference is that Theano doesn't attempt to parse existing
Python (byte)code: you need to explicitly code with the Theano syntax
(which tries to be close to Numpy, but can end up looking quite different,
especially if you want to control the program flow with loops and ifs for
Hi,
Le 12/03/2012 00:21, Sturla Molden a écrit :
It could also put Python/Numba high up on the Debian shootout ;-)
Can you tell a bit more about it ? (I just didn't understand the whole
sentence in fact ;-) )
Thanks !
--
Pierre
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On 03/10/2012 10:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote:
Hey all,
I gave a lightning talk this morning on numba which is the start of a
Python compiler to machine code through the LLVM tool-chain. It is proof
of concept stage only at this point (use it only if you are interested
in helping develop the
It says : Numba is a NumPy aware optimizing compiler for Python. It
uses the remarkable LLVM compiler infrastructure to compile Python
byte-code to machine code especially for use in the NumPy run-time and
SciPy modules.*
*
If this description is correct, Numba is an additional pass once the
11.03.2012 15:12, xavier.gn...@gmail.com kirjoitti:
[clip]
If this description is correct, Numba is an additional pass once the
cpython bytecode has be produced by cpython.
Is it correct??
Is python bytecote a good intermediate representation to perform numpy
related optimization?
One
On 03/11/2012 03:52 PM, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
11.03.2012 15:12, xavier.gn...@gmail.com kirjoitti:
[clip]
If this description is correct, Numba is an additional pass once the
cpython bytecode has be produced by cpython.
Is it correct??
Is python bytecote a good intermediate representation to
Den 11. mars 2012 kl. 15:52 skrev Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi:
To get speed gains, you need to optimize not only the bytecode
interpreter side, but also the object space --- Python classes, strings
and all that. Keeping in mind Python's dynamism, there are potential
side effects everywhere.
On Mar 11, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Mic wrote:
what is the difference to http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3146/ ?
To fully expound the difference would take a lot of discussion. But,
summarizing:
* Numba is not nearly as ambitious as US (Numba will be fine with some
user-directed
Den 11.03.2012 15:52, skrev Pauli Virtanen:
To get speed gains, you need to optimize not only the bytecode
interpreter side, but also the object space --- Python classes,
strings and all that. Keeping in mind Python's dynamism, there are
potential side effects everywhere. I guess this is
Den 11.03.2012 23:11, skrev Travis Oliphant:
* Numba will be much closer to Cython in spirit than Unladen Swallow
(or PyPy) --- people who just use Cython for a loop or two will be
able to use Numba instead
This is perhaps the most important issue for scientific and algorithmic
codes.
Hey all,
I gave a lightning talk this morning on numba which is the start of a Python
compiler to machine code through the LLVM tool-chain. It is proof of concept
stage only at this point (use it only if you are interested in helping develop
the code at this point). The only thing that
what is the difference to http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3146/ ?
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Travis Oliphant teoliph...@gmail.comwrote:
Hey all,
I gave a lightning talk this morning on numba which is the start of a
Python compiler to machine code through the LLVM tool-chain. It is
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