Re: [Numpy-discussion] Windows build/distribute plan & MingwPy funding

2016-01-09 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Matthew Brett 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Erik Bray 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Ralf Gommers 
> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> You probably know that building Numpy, Scipy and the rest of the Scipy
> Stack
> >> on Windows is problematic. And that there are plans to adopt the static
> >> MinGW-w64 based toolchain that Carl Kleffner has done a lot of work on
> for
> >> the last two years to fix that situation.
> >>
> >> The good news is: this has become a lot more concrete just now, with
> this
> >> proposal for funding:
> http://mingwpy.github.io/proposal_december2015.html
> >>
> >> Funding for phases 1 and 2 is already confirmed; the phase 3 part has
> been
> >> submitted to the PSF. Phase 1 (of $1000) is funded by donations made to
> >> Numpy and Scipy (through NumFOCUS), and phase 2 (of $4000) by NumFOCUS
> >> directly. So a big thank you to everyone who made a donation to Numpy,
> Scipy
> >> and NumFOCUS!
>

More good news: the PSF has approved phase 3!


>
> >> I hope that that proposal gives a clear idea of the work that's going
> to be
> >> done over the next months. Note that the http://mingwpy.github.io
> contains a
> >> lot more background info, description of technical issues, etc.
> >>
> >> Feedback & ideas very welcome of course!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ralf
> >
> > Hi Ralph,
> >
> > I've seen you drop hints about this recently, and am interested to
> > follow this work.  I've been hired as part of the OpenDreamKit project
> > to work, in large part, on developing a sensible toolchain for
> > building and distributing Sage on Windows.  I know you've been
> > following the thread on that too.  Although the primary goal there is
> > "whatever works", I'm personally inclined to focus on the mingwpy /
> > mingw-w64 approach, due in large part with my past success with the
> > MinGW 32-bit toolchain.
>

That's good to hear Erik.


> (I personally have a desire to improve
> > support for building with MSVC as well, but that's a less important
> > goal as far as the funding is concerned.)
>
>
> > So anyways, please keep me in the loop about this, as I will also be
> > putting effort into this over the next year as well.  Has there been
> > any discussion about setting up a mailing list specifically for this
> > project?
>

We'll definitely keep you in the loop. We try to do as much of the
discussion as possible on the mingwpy mailing list and on
https://github.com/mingwpy. If there's significant progress then I guess
that'll be announced on this list as well.

Cheers,
Ralf


> Yes, it exists already, but not well advertised :
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mingwpy
>
> It would be great to share work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Windows build/distribute plan & MingwPy funding

2016-01-04 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi,

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Erik Bray  wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Ralf Gommers  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> You probably know that building Numpy, Scipy and the rest of the Scipy Stack
>> on Windows is problematic. And that there are plans to adopt the static
>> MinGW-w64 based toolchain that Carl Kleffner has done a lot of work on for
>> the last two years to fix that situation.
>>
>> The good news is: this has become a lot more concrete just now, with this
>> proposal for funding: http://mingwpy.github.io/proposal_december2015.html
>>
>> Funding for phases 1 and 2 is already confirmed; the phase 3 part has been
>> submitted to the PSF. Phase 1 (of $1000) is funded by donations made to
>> Numpy and Scipy (through NumFOCUS), and phase 2 (of $4000) by NumFOCUS
>> directly. So a big thank you to everyone who made a donation to Numpy, Scipy
>> and NumFOCUS!
>>
>> I hope that that proposal gives a clear idea of the work that's going to be
>> done over the next months. Note that the http://mingwpy.github.io contains a
>> lot more background info, description of technical issues, etc.
>>
>> Feedback & ideas very welcome of course!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
> I've seen you drop hints about this recently, and am interested to
> follow this work.  I've been hired as part of the OpenDreamKit project
> to work, in large part, on developing a sensible toolchain for
> building and distributing Sage on Windows.  I know you've been
> following the thread on that too.  Although the primary goal there is
> "whatever works", I'm personally inclined to focus on the mingwpy /
> mingw-w64 approach, due in large part with my past success with the
> MinGW 32-bit toolchain.  (I personally have a desire to improve
> support for building with MSVC as well, but that's a less important
> goal as far as the funding is concerned.)
>
> So anyways, please keep me in the loop about this, as I will also be
> putting effort into this over the next year as well.  Has there been
> any discussion about setting up a mailing list specifically for this
> project?

Yes, it exists already, but not well advertised :
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mingwpy

It would be great to share work.

Cheers,

Matthew
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Windows build/distribute plan & MingwPy funding

2016-01-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Ralf Gommers  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> You probably know that building Numpy, Scipy and the rest of the Scipy Stack
> on Windows is problematic. And that there are plans to adopt the static
> MinGW-w64 based toolchain that Carl Kleffner has done a lot of work on for
> the last two years to fix that situation.
>
> The good news is: this has become a lot more concrete just now, with this
> proposal for funding: http://mingwpy.github.io/proposal_december2015.html
>
> Funding for phases 1 and 2 is already confirmed; the phase 3 part has been
> submitted to the PSF. Phase 1 (of $1000) is funded by donations made to
> Numpy and Scipy (through NumFOCUS), and phase 2 (of $4000) by NumFOCUS
> directly. So a big thank you to everyone who made a donation to Numpy, Scipy
> and NumFOCUS!
>
> I hope that that proposal gives a clear idea of the work that's going to be
> done over the next months. Note that the http://mingwpy.github.io contains a
> lot more background info, description of technical issues, etc.
>
> Feedback & ideas very welcome of course!
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf

Hi Ralph,

I've seen you drop hints about this recently, and am interested to
follow this work.  I've been hired as part of the OpenDreamKit project
to work, in large part, on developing a sensible toolchain for
building and distributing Sage on Windows.  I know you've been
following the thread on that too.  Although the primary goal there is
"whatever works", I'm personally inclined to focus on the mingwpy /
mingw-w64 approach, due in large part with my past success with the
MinGW 32-bit toolchain.  (I personally have a desire to improve
support for building with MSVC as well, but that's a less important
goal as far as the funding is concerned.)

So anyways, please keep me in the loop about this, as I will also be
putting effort into this over the next year as well.  Has there been
any discussion about setting up a mailing list specifically for this
project?

Thanks,
Erik
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[Numpy-discussion] Windows build/distribute plan & MingwPy funding

2016-01-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all,

You probably know that building Numpy, Scipy and the rest of the Scipy
Stack on Windows is problematic. And that there are plans to adopt the
static MinGW-w64 based toolchain that Carl Kleffner has done a lot of work
on for the last two years to fix that situation.

The good news is: this has become a lot more concrete just now, with this
proposal for funding: http://mingwpy.github.io/proposal_december2015.html

Funding for phases 1 and 2 is already confirmed; the phase 3 part has been
submitted to the PSF. Phase 1 (of $1000) is funded by donations made to
Numpy and Scipy (through NumFOCUS), and phase 2 (of $4000) by NumFOCUS
directly. So a big thank you to everyone who made a donation to Numpy,
Scipy and NumFOCUS!

I hope that that proposal gives a clear idea of the work that's going to be
done over the next months. Note that the http://mingwpy.github.io contains
a lot more background info, description of technical issues, etc.

Feedback & ideas very welcome of course!

Cheers,
Ralf
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