Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-04 Thread Tom Herbert
eader trick for extensibility might work > Thanks, > > weiguo > > > From: Deepak Kumar (dekumar) [deku...@cisco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 14:51 > To: Sam Aldrin > Cc: Shahram Davari; nvo3@ietf.org; Dacheng Zhang > >

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-04 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
v...@broadcom.com>>, "nvo3@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>" <nvo3@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>>, Dacheng Zhang <dacheng....@alibaba-inc.com<mailto:dacheng@alibaba-inc.com>> Subject: RE: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-04 Thread Dacheng Zhang
ement and >reasonable deployment from it. > > >Thanks, >Yizhou > > >-邮件原件- >发件人: nvo3 [mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Tom Herbert >发送时间: 2015年11月5日 6:05 >收件人: Haoweiguo >抄送: Sam Aldrin; Shahram Davari; nvo3@ietf.org; Dacheng Zhang; Deepak >Kumar (dekumar) &g

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-04 Thread Sam Aldrin
t; Yizhou > > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: nvo3 [mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Tom Herbert > 发送时间: 2015年11月5日 6:05 > 收件人: Haoweiguo > 抄送: Sam Aldrin; Shahram Davari; nvo3@ietf.org; Dacheng Zhang; Deepak > Kumar (dekumar) > 主题: Re: [nvo3] draft--pang--nvo3--vxlan--path--detection--0

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Shahram Davari
3-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Shahram Davari <dav...@broadcom.com<mailto:dav...@broadcom.com>> 日期: 2015年11月4日 星期三 上午9:33 至: "nvo3@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>" <nvo3@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>> 主题: [nvo3] draft-­‐pang-­‐nvo3-­‐vxlan-­‐path-­‐

[nvo3] draft-­‐pang-­‐nvo3-­‐vxlan-­‐path-­‐detection-­‐01

2015-11-03 Thread Shahram Davari
Hi, This draft needs to address how intermediate L3 routers are going to see these VXLAN OAM packets, since L3 routers just do L3 routing and don’t look at the payload to see it is VXLAN and then see that these are PD OAM packets. The only option I can think of is TTL expiry, otherwise it

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Shahram Davari
-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:53 PM To: Shahram Davari; nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01 This draft actually proposes a mechanism where the intermediates are required to recognize the vxlan oam packets. If this assumption is broken

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Dacheng Zhang
i <dav...@broadcom.com> 日期: 2015年11月4日 星期三 上午9:33 至: "nvo3@ietf.org" <nvo3@ietf.org> 主题: [nvo3] draft-­‐pang-­‐nvo3-­‐vxlan-­‐path-­‐detection-­‐01 Hi, This draft needs to address how intermediate L3 routers are going to see these VXLAN OAM packets, since L3 routers just

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Dacheng Zhang
星期三 上午9:58 至: dacheng de <dacheng@alibaba-inc.com>, "nvo3@ietf.org" <nvo3@ietf.org> 主题: Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01 The only text I can see is the following: “Each network device receives the Path Tracking packet from its upstream dev

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Shahram Davari
ailto:nvo3@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01 This draft actually proposes a mechanism where the intermediates are required to recognize the vxlan oam packets. If this assumption is broken, the solutions proposed in this draft may not be effecti

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Sam Aldrin
;> -sam >> >>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Shahram Davari <dav...@broadcom.com >>> <mailto:dav...@broadcom.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I think your assumption is broken. But you have an alternative method and >>> that is using TTL expir

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Shahram Davari
Davari; nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01 I can give a simple example. A OpenFlow switch can easily be used to support this function. But of course it is an example, we do not try to argue that we should use Openflow. 发件人: nvo3 <nvo3-b

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Sam Aldrin
TL expiry. >> >> Thx >> SD >> >> From: Dacheng Zhang [mailto:dacheng....@alibaba-inc.com >> <mailto:dacheng@alibaba-inc.com>] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:53 PM >> To: Shahram Davari; nvo3@ietf.org <mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
人: nvo3 <nvo3-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Shahram Davari <dav...@broadcom.com<mailto:dav...@broadcom.com>> 日期: 2015年11月4日 星期三 上午9:33 至: "nvo3@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>" <nvo3@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>> 主题:

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Dapeng Liu
ken, > the solutions proposed in this draft may not be effective. > > Cheers > > Dacheng > > *发件人**: *nvo3 <nvo3-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Shahram Davari < > dav...@broadcom.com> > *日期**: *2015年11月4日 星期三 上午9:33 > *至**: *"nvo3@ietf.org" <nv

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Dacheng Zhang
Davari <dav...@broadcom.com> 日期: 2015年11月4日 星期三 上午10:02 至: dacheng de <dacheng@alibaba-inc.com>, "nvo3@ietf.org" <nvo3@ietf.org> 主题: Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01 I think your assumption is broken. But you have an alternative method a

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Sam Aldrin
Zhang [mailto:dacheng@alibaba-inc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:53 PM > To: Shahram Davari; nvo3@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01 > > This draft actually proposes a mechanism where the intermediates ar

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Dapeng Liu
> *From:* Dacheng Zhang [mailto:dacheng@alibaba-inc.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:53 PM > *To:* Shahram Davari; nvo3@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01 > > > > This draft actually proposes a mechanism where the

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Sam Aldrin
bit is >>>> set, they need to implement DPI for the same. >>>> >>>> Secondly, imagine when there exists a loop. In fact, they do exist even in >>>> controller based networks. >>>> >>>> Speaking as an operator, as menti

Re: [nvo3] draft-­-pang-­-nvo3-­-vxlan-­-path-­-detection-­-01

2015-11-03 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
draft may not be effective. Cheers Dacheng ???: nvo3 <nvo3-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Shahram Davari <dav...@broadcom.com<mailto:dav...@broadcom.com>> ??: 2015?11?4? ??? ??9:33 ?: "nvo3@ietf.org<mailto:nvo3@ietf.org>" <n