Hi Joel,
Thanks for your comments.
I don't think the VNI could own IP address and MAC address, if the BFD messages
are originated and terminated at the VNI, then what addresses would be used by
the BFD messages?
As to the VAP, RFC8014 defines it as below:
"On the NVE side, a VAP is a
Hi Anoop,
Thanks for your comments.
Considering a scenario where TS1 has an MPLS access (i.e. MPLS-Packet over
Tunnel between NVEs) to VNI1, TS3 has an Ethernet access (i.e. MAC-Frame over
Tunnel between NVEs) to VNI1, then how can TS1 and TS3 share one VAP?
Best Regards,
Xiao
Hi Anoop,
Due to the fact that a variety of Tunnels could be used under the NVO3
architecture, as an example, below figure illustrates the format of MPLS packet
over Geneve Tunnel.
0 1 2 3
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
NVO3 WG,
Through offline discussion with David Black, the primary author of RFC 8014, we
concluded that "RFC 8014 was written based on 1-to-1 mapping model, at the same
time, RFC 8014 allows N-to-1 mapping."
Any other thoughts?
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：肖敏10093570
Yes, what I discussed with Anoop was on Greg's option #3.
Respecting BFD over VxLAN, option #2 and #3 both are ok to me, I have no
preference.
Respecting BFD over Geneve, option #2 and #3 both are ok to me, although I
personally prefer #3.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
Hi NVO3 WG,
Based on the discussion that happened in Montreal and on the mailing list,
we've updated draft-xiao-nvo3-bfd-geneve.
More reviews and comments are always welcome.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：internet-dra...@ietf.org
收件人：肖敏10093570;肖敏10093570;Juniper Networks
Dear NVO3 Architecture Authors,
Many thanks to the well defined NVO3 architecture.
I have a question on the mapping between VAP and VNI at one NVE, is it a 1-to-1
mapping or N-to-1 mapping?
In other words, is the following figure which is derived from Figure 2 of
RFC8014
Hi Anoop,
I don't know such a draft that describes MPLS over Geneve, but I believe the
following figure derived from figure 1 of RFC8014 would help, in the following
figure Tenant System1, Tenant System2, Tenant System3 and Tenant System4 are
assumed belonging to the same VNI, so two BFD
Hi Anoop,
Sorry for the late response, I just come back from vacation.
The use case is that the network between the VM and the NVE is an MPLS network,
within which the packet is forwarded basing on MPLS label, but not Ethernet MAC
address and/or 802.1Q VLAN. When two such kind of MPLS
Hi Anoop,
Normally, it is. While Tenant Systems connect to NVE through IP routing network
or MPLS forwarding network, it is not.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：AnoopGhanwani
收件人：肖敏10093570;
抄送人：draft-ietf-bfd-vx...@ietf.org ;nvo3@ietf.org
;rtg-bfd WG ;
日 期 ：2019年10月10日
Hi Anoop,
Please see my response inline with [XM].
原始邮件
发件人：AnoopGhanwani
收件人：肖敏10093570;
抄送人：draft-ietf-bfd-vx...@ietf.org ;nvo3@ietf.org
;rtg-bfd WG ;
日 期 ：2019年10月10日 15:47
主 题 ：Re: [nvo3] BFD over VXLAN: Trapping BFD Control packet at VTEP
Hi Santosh,
Many thanks for your comments.
Please see my response inline with [XM].
原始邮件
发件人：SantoshPK
收件人：nvo3@ietf.org ;rtg-bfd WG ;
日 期 ：2019年10月04日 01:22
主 题 ：draft-xiao-nvo3-bfd-geneve-00,
Hello Authors,Below are the comments on the draft.
"[Ed.Note]: Use of O bit is
Hi Anoop,
In the use case illustrated in below figure, do you think Tenant System1 and
Tenant System2 can be within the same VN? do you think NVE1 and NVE2 can
encapsulate the same VNI in the packets sent from Tenant System1 and Tenant
System2?
. . +--+-+
. .--|NVE1|
Hi Joel,
I fully agree to your analysis.
One major difference between VxLAN and Geneve (or VxLAN-GPE) is that VxLAN
doesn't support multi-protocol payload, and VxLAN only supports payload of
Ethernet frame. Although VxLAN specification was developed outside NVO3 WG, I
believe VxLAN may
Hi Anoop,
In this use case there is no forwarding happens between the MPLS and non-MPLS
parts, would this use case be prohibited?
If the answer is yes, then I agree that all Tenant Systems attached to a common
NVE MUST share a VAP so long as they connect to the same VN, although in
Hi Anoop,
Thanks for your reply to my question.
It's clear that we have different views on this case, could you please direct
me to the text(if any) of RFC/draft that supports your statement?
Any thoughts from others?
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：AnoopGhanwani
收件人：肖敏10093570;
NVO3 WG,
Based on the duscussion at IETF 106 and following email exchange, we updated
this draft to -02 version.
There are two major changes compared to -01 version, as follows:
Remove BFD-over-MPLS-over-Geneve encapsulation. We received a comment that this
kind of encapsulation is
Hi Matthew and Sam,
I support the adoption of this draft.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：Bocci,Matthew(Nokia-GB)
收件人：NVO3;
抄送人：draft-mmbb-nvo3-geneve-...@ietf.org;
日 期 ：2020年10月15日 23:40
主 题 ：[nvo3] WG adoption and IPR poll fordraft-mmbb-nvo3-geneve-oam-04.txt
Hi Matthew and Sam,
I support the adoption of this draft as co-author.
I'm not aware of any relevant IPR.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：Bocci,Matthew(Nokia-GB)
收件人：NVO3;
抄送人：draft-xiao-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org;
日 期 ：2020年10月15日 23:42
主 题 ：[nvo3] WG adoption and IPR poll
Hi Yizhou,
Thanks for the excellent minutes.
Alignment between the two presented Geneve OAM drafts is ongoing, hope we can
draw a right conclusion based on the good discussion at IETF 108.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：Liyizhou
收件人：nvo3@ietf.org ;
抄送人：nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
Dear NVO3 WG,
This mail intends to share some open issues for draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve, and
ask for your review and comments.
For BFD-over-Ethernet-over-Geneve encap in Figure 1, if the VAP of the
terminating NVE has no IP address, for IPv6, whether the range
:::127.0.0.0/104 or
I'll upload the -00 version WG document as the I-D submission tool is reopened.
Many thanks to NVO3 co-chairs and the folks who support the adoption.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：Bocci,Matthew(Nokia-GB)
收件人：NVO3;
抄送人：draft-xiao-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org;
日 期 ：2020年11月09日
Hi Matthew and Sam,
I've read the latest version of this draft.
I think this document is valuable and ready for publication.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
--原始邮件--
发件人：Bocci,Matthew(Nokia-GB)
收件人：NVO3;
抄送人：draft-ietf-nvo3-en...@ietf.org;
日 期 ：2021年07月01日 23:09
主 题
I support the publication of this draft.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
原始邮件
发件人：SamAldrin
收件人：NVO3;draft-ietf-nvo3-yang-...@ietf.org;
日 期 ：2021年03月29日 14:54
主 题 ：[nvo3] WG Last call and IPR Poll for draft-ietf-nvo3-yang-cfg-04
___
nvo3
Thank you, John!
Xiao Min
Original
From: JohnScudderviaDatatracker
To: The IESG ;
Cc: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;matthew.bo...@nokia.com ;
Date: 2023年09月08日 22:25
Subject: John Scudder's No Objection on
Hi John,
Much appreciated if you may check the latest -13 version and let's know whether
your DISCUSS is addressed or not. Link as below.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: 肖敏10093570
To: JohnScudder ;
Hi Greg,
Thank you for the reply.
Please see inline with [XM-2]>>>.
Original
From: GregMirsky
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: aldrin.i...@gmail.com ;nvo3@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-...@ietf.org
;
Date: 2023年10月12日 22:01
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Working Group Last Call and IPR
Hi Greg,
Thank you for the reply and proposed updates.
Please see inline with [XM-3]>>>.
Original
From: GregMirsky
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: aldrin.i...@gmail.com ;nvo3@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-...@ietf.org
;
Date: 2023年10月26日 10:43
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Working
Hi Greg,
Many thanks for your consideration of my comments.
I noticed that a new -08 version has been posted, so my further comments would
be based on the latest revision.
Please see inline.
Original
From: GregMirsky
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: aldrin.i...@gmail.com ;nvo3@ietf.org
Hi John,
Thank you for the response.
Please see inline my comments tagged with [XM-2].
Original
From: JohnScudder
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: The IESG ;draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;
Date: 2023年08月15日 23:26
Subject: Re:
Hi Eric,
Thank you for the review and thoughtful comments.
Please see inline.
Original
From: ÉricVynckeviaDatatracker
To: The IESG ;
Cc: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;d3e...@gmail.com ;
Hi Zaheduzzaman,
Thank you for the review and thoughtful comments.
Please see inline.
Original
From: ZaheduzzamanSarkerviaDatatracker
To: The IESG ;
Cc: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;matthew.bo...@nokia.com ;
Hi Greg,
Thanks for taking my suggestions into account. I believe this document is on
the right way.
Still, I want to extract some text from the working version for further
discussion.
In section 2.1, it says "Encapsulation of test packets for both cases is
discussed in Section 2.2."
Hi Donald,
Thank you for the response.Please see inline my comments tagged with [XM-2].
CC'd to nvo3@ietf.org.
Original
From: DonaldEastlake
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: int-...@ietf.org ;draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve@ietf.org
;int-...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org ;
Date: 2023年08月17日 04:44
Thank you for clearing your DISCUSS, Eric!
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: EricVyncke(evyncke)
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: i...@ietf.org ;draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;d3e...@gmail.com ;
Date: 2023年08月24日 19:26
Hi Donald,
Many thanks for your confirmation.
I'll incorporate all the agreed changes in the next rev.
Cheers,
Xiao Min
Original
From: DonaldEastlake
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: int-...@ietf.org ;draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve@ietf.org
;int-...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
Thank you for the confirmation, Zahed!
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: ZaheduzzamanSarker
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: i...@ietf.org ;draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;
Date: 2023年08月24日 16:42
Subject: Re: [nvo3]
Nvo3 Chairs,
The authors believe draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve is ready for WGLC, appreciate
your consideration of it.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
--原始邮件--
发件人：internet-dra...@ietf.org
收件人：Greg Mirsky;Jeff Tantsura;Sam Aldrin;Santosh Pallagatti;肖敏10093570;
日 期
I support the publication of this document.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
--原始邮件--
发件人：Bocci,Matthew(Nokia-GB)
收件人：NVO3;
抄送人：nvo3-cha...@ietf.org;ilango.s.ga...@intel.com;prank...@microsoft.com;Rajeev
Manur;ta...@marvell.com;mosess...@gmail.com;nordm...@sonic.net;Michael
Hi Matthew,
I support option (1).
Cheers,
Xiao Min
--Original--
From: Bocci,Matthew(Nokia-GB)
To: NVO3 ;draft-ietf-nvo3-en...@ietf.org
;
Cc: Andrew Alston - IETF ;
Date: 2022年07月08日 20:52
Subject: [nvo3] Poll on progressing draft-ietf-nvo3-encap with missing IPR
Hi Anoop,
Thanks for your support.
Please see inline...
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: AnoopGhanwani
To: nvo3@ietf.org ;
Date: 2022年10月18日 02:36
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Working Group Last Call and IPR Poll for
draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve
Hi Anoop,
Thank you for the kind reminder.
Yes, I've noticed there are two places (one in section 4, another in section 5)
that need to be changed.
Your new text looks better.
Thanks,
Xiao Min
Original
From: AnoopGhanwani
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: nvo3@ietf.org ;
Date:
As a co-author, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this document.
I support the publication of this document as a Standards Track RFC (not
informational RFC, I suspect it's a typo in the original mail :-)).
Thanks,
Xiao Min
Original
From: Bocci,Matthew(Nokia-GB)
To:
Dear Stewart,
Thanks for your insightful review and comments, especially the proposed text,
very helpful.
Attached please find the updated draft (working -07 version) addressing your
comments, and the Diff.
For my responses to your comments, please see inline...
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
For some unknown reason, the attached files can't get to the archive.
I've posted the updated draft for your review.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-07
Sorry for the inconvenience.
- Xiao Min
--Original--
From: 肖敏10093570
To:
Dear Stewart,
Thanks for your insightful review and comments, especially the proposed text,
very helpful.
Attached please find the updated draft (working -07 version) addressing your
comments, and the Diff.
For my responses to your comments, please see inline...
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Hi Matthew,
Thank you for concluding the extended WG last call.
I've posted the -08 revision to address all the agreed WG last call comments.
Link as below.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-08
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From:
Hi Matthew,
Thank you for the shepherd review and very helpful comments.
I've posted -09 revision attempting to address your comments. Link as below.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-09
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: MatthewBocci(Nokia)
Hi Matthew,
Would you please conclude the extended WG LC for draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve?
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: 肖敏10093570
To: ReshadRahman ;
Cc: nvo3@ietf.org ;rtg-...@ietf.org
;matthew.bo...@nokia.com ;
Date: 2022年11月09日 10:24
Subject: Re: Extending WG
Jeff,
Thank you for the quick reply.
Please see inline...
Original
From: JeffreyHaas
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) ;nvo3@ietf.org
;rtg-...@ietf.org ;
Date: 2022年11月04日 19:20
Subject: Re: Extending WG LC for draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve by two weeks
Xiao Min,
Hi Reshad,
Thank you for the quick reply.
Please see inline [XM-2]...
Original
From: ReshadRahman
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: nvo3@ietf.org ;rtg-...@ietf.org
;matthew.bo...@nokia.com ;
Date: 2022年11月09日 04:12
Subject: Re: Extending WG LC for draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve by two weeks
Jeff,
Thank you for the quick reply.
Please see inline...
Original
From: JeffreyHaas
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: matthew.bo...@nokia.com ;nvo3@ietf.org
;rtg-...@ietf.org ;
Date: 2022年11月06日 17:05
Subject: Re: Extending WG LC for draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve by two weeks
Xiao Min,
On Sat,
Hi Reshad,
Thank you for the thorough review and thoughtful comments.
Please see inline...
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: ReshadRahman
To: NVO3 ;rtg-...@ietf.org ;Bocci, Matthew
(Nokia - GB) ;
Date: 2022年11月07日 00:06
Subject: Re: Extending WG LC for
Jeff,
Thank you for the thorough review and thoughtful comments.
Please see inline...
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: JeffreyHaas
To: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) ;
Cc: NVO3 ;rtg-...@ietf.org ;
Date: 2022年11月04日 08:11
Subject: Re: Extending WG LC for
Hi Sheng,
Many thanks for your review and conclusion.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: ShengJiangviaDatatracker
To: ops-...@ietf.org ;
Cc: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve@ietf.org
;last-c...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;
Date: 2023年07月11日 16:05
Subject: [nvo3] Opsdir last
Hi Paul,
Many thanks for your review and conclusion.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: PaulKyzivat
To: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve@ietf.org
;
Cc: General Area Review Team ;last-c...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;
Date: 2023年07月09日 03:35
Subject: [nvo3] Gen-ART Last Call
Hi Carl,
Many thanks for your review and conclusion.
Yes, I believe a reference to RFC5880 and a suggestion to use BFD
authentication should be added to security section. I'll post a new version
with these changes after the submission is reopened.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Hi all,
I support progressing this document to publication.
At the same time, I strongly suggest the authors to rethink about the scope of
this document.
This document introduces two cases of using active OAM protocols for Geneve,
the first case is to use the Management VNI, and the
Hi Magnus,
Thank you for the review and thoughtful comments.
Please see inline.
Original
From: MagnusWesterlundviaDatatracker
To: tsv-...@ietf.org ;
Cc: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve@ietf.org
;last-c...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;
Date: 2023年07月03日 17:36
Subject: [nvo3] Tsvart last
Hi Magnus,
Thank you for the prompt reply.
A new version has just been posted to address your comments. Link as below.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-11
I also cc BFD WG to see if some new ideas can be motivated by your good
observation.
Best
Hi John,
Thank you for the review and thoughtful comments.
Please see inline.
Original
From: JohnScudderviaDatatracker
To: The IESG ;
Cc: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;nvo3@ietf.org ;matthew.bo...@nokia.com
;matthew.bo...@nokia.com ;
Date: 2023年08月04日
Hi Roman,
Thank you for the review and comment.
I believe a normative "RECOMMENDED" is appropriate. Will incorporate this
change into the next revision.
Best Regards,
Xiao Min
Original
From: RomanDanyliwviaDatatracker
To: The IESG ;
Cc: draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-gen...@ietf.org
Hi Greg,
Thank you for the prompt reply.
Please see inline with [XM-5]>>>.
Original
From: GregMirsky
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: aldrin.i...@gmail.com ;nvo3@ietf.org
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-...@ietf.org
;
Date: 2023年11月23日 01:14
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Working Group Last Call and
Hi Greg,
Thanks for the reply.
Please see inline with [XM-4]>>>.
Original
From: GregMirsky
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: Sam Aldrin ;NVO3
;nvo3-cha...@ietf.org
;draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-...@ietf.org
;
Date: 2023年11月18日 06:56
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Working Group Last Call and IPR Poll for
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