Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Phil Jeffrey
Y >> >> >> ------------------ >> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? >> From: peter.co...@gmail.com >> To: rc...@nyc.rr.com >> CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com; orhanbir...@

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Paul R Sweet
08, 2015 11:05 AM Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? Why should we get involved at all? They are vagrants, moved out of their normal range for whatever reason. They will either survive and return home, or they won't. That's the way nature works. I

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Grover, Bob
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? Suffering is suffering, compassion is compassion. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Justin Lawson mailto:justindlaw...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hope we aren't comparing a bird's life to a human life. On Thursday, J

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread McIntyre, Annie (PARKS)
: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? Hope we aren't comparing a bird's life to a human life. On Thursday, January 8, 2015, Linda Orkin mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>> wrote: It doesn't hurt to help beings in trouble if it is possible to do. Wouldn't you want the same done f

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Linda Orkin
ved. >>> >>> Will Raup >>> Glenmont, NY >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? >>> From: peter.co...@gmail.com >>&

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Justin Lawson
>> back and let nature take its course and not get directly involved. >> >> Will Raup >> Glenmont, NY >> >> >> ------------------ >> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? &

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Linda Orkin
8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? > From: peter.co...@gmail.com > To: rc...@nyc.rr.com > CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com; orhanbir...@gmail.com; NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu > > > Good discussion, > > Here is a Dusky-capped

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Will Raup
. Will RaupGlenmont, NYDate: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? From: peter.co...@gmail.com To: rc...@nyc.rr.com CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com; orhanbir...@gmail.com; NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Good discussion, Here is a Dusky-capped Flycatcher eating fruit

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Peter Colen
ilder > traditional overwintering sites.) > > > > Rick > > > > *From:* bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto: > bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Hugh McGuinness > *Sent:* Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:18 AM > *To:* Orhan Birol > *Cc:*

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Rick
Of Hugh McGuinness Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:18 AM To: Orhan Birol Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? My memory of Tyrannus biology is that all members of the genus become mostly or partly frugivorous during winter, and simply supplement their diet

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Hugh McGuinness
My memory of Tyrannus biology is that all members of the genus become mostly or partly frugivorous during winter, and simply supplement their diet with insects when available. So, their survival in NYC may depend more on the availability of small fruits, for which they are competing with the many

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Hugh McGuinness
My memory of Tyrannus biology is that all members of the genus become mostly or partly frugivorous during winter, and simply supplement their diet with insects when available. So, their survival in NYC may depend more on the availability of small fruits, for which they are competing with the many

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Rick
Of Hugh McGuinness Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:18 AM To: Orhan Birol Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? My memory of Tyrannus biology is that all members of the genus become mostly or partly frugivorous during winter, and simply supplement their diet

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Peter Colen
-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto: bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Hugh McGuinness *Sent:* Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:18 AM *To:* Orhan Birol *Cc:* NYSBIRDS-L *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? My memory of Tyrannus biology

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Will Raup
. Will RaupGlenmont, NYDate: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? From: peter.co...@gmail.com To: rc...@nyc.rr.com CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com; orhanbir...@gmail.com; NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Good discussion, Here is a Dusky-capped Flycatcher eating fruit

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Justin Lawson
works. I think we should stand back and let nature take its course and not get directly involved. Will Raup Glenmont, NY -- Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? From: peter.co...@gmail.com javascript:_e

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread McIntyre, Annie (PARKS)
: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? Hope we aren't comparing a bird's life to a human life. On Thursday, January 8, 2015, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.commailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't hurt to help beings in trouble if it is possible to do. Wouldn't you want

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Linda Orkin
-0500 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? From: peter.co...@gmail.com To: rc...@nyc.rr.com CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com; orhanbir...@gmail.com; NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Good discussion, Here is a Dusky-capped Flycatcher eating fruit/vegetables in the warm climate of El

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Linda Orkin
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? From: peter.co...@gmail.com To: rc...@nyc.rr.com CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com; orhanbir...@gmail.com; NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Good discussion, Here is a Dusky-capped Flycatcher eating fruit/vegetables in the warm climate of El Salvador

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Paul R Sweet
08, 2015 11:05 AM Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? Why should we get involved at all? They are vagrants, moved out of their normal range for whatever reason. They will either survive and return home, or they won't. That's the way nature works. I

RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Grover, Bob
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? Suffering is suffering, compassion is compassion. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Justin Lawson justindlaw...@gmail.commailto:justindlaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hope we aren't comparing a bird's life to a human life

Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-08 Thread Phil Jeffrey
2015 10:25:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? From: peter.co...@gmail.com To: rc...@nyc.rr.com CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com; orhanbir...@gmail.com; NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Good discussion, Here is a Dusky-capped Flycatcher eating fruit/vegetables in the warm

[nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-07 Thread Orhan Birol
On Sunday I observed both. The Cassins was flycatching nonstop for the 10 minutes I was there. I think the row of low evergreens(boxwood?) on the west side of the community gardens and plenty of shelter in the gardens, may protect it from the cold. The Couches also has enough shelter in enclosed

[nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

2015-01-07 Thread Orhan Birol
On Sunday I observed both. The Cassins was flycatching nonstop for the 10 minutes I was there. I think the row of low evergreens(boxwood?) on the west side of the community gardens and plenty of shelter in the gardens, may protect it from the cold. The Couches also has enough shelter in enclosed