Yes, there is a very good reason they cannot be juvenile Common Grackles:
Common Grackles do not even retain their dull brown juvenal plumage into
the first fall. Here is a good rule: if you are in or near a salt marsh and
you see a mixed flock of Common Grackles and Rusty Blackbirds, you have
Is there a particular reason that these can't be Common Grackle juveniles? The
tails are far too short for Boat Tailed and they even have a slight yellow
tinge on the throat like the Common Crackle.
Scott Varney
Moreau, NY
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On Sunday (2/23), Tim Dunn, Pete Morris, and myself (John Gluth) made
the trip up to Orange County to see the birds reported over the past few
weeks throughout the Black Dirt Region (BDR).
Before heading for the BDR, we made two preliminary stops. We began in
River Vale, NJ, hoping to see a
I spotted both a red-necked grebe, close enough to clearly id without
binoculars, and a rusty blackbird at Oakland lake in Queens NYC. Rusty
blackbirds seem to be relatively common in northeastern Queens this winter.
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We made our first visit of the year to Hempstead Lake State Park this AM, and
were pleased to see a lack of residual snow in many locations (unlike the North
Shore). Highlights were the continuing Bald Eagles on Hempstead Lake, an
immature bird on the ice and an adult in the trees on the west
Related to the hawk image I posted yesterday from Croton, NY on
Saturday; while most people agreed that it was a juvenile Red-shouldered
Hawk, a couple of people thought it was a juvenile Broad-winged Hawk.
Here is the link to the image again:
http://ardithbondi.com/pictures/slide4533.jpg
To further elaborate on Angus' post of yesterday, the "warm, brown" color of
these birds is a much better fit for female Boat-tails than Rusty
Blackbirds. Winter Rustys tend towards gray, rather than brown and even in
fall birds which have a lot of brown to them, the brown color is on the
feather
Thanks, regarding the size, I just know they were either the same size as a
robin or a little smaller
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They look like Rusty Blackbirds (forgot to say that in earlier post) based on
the tails.
Boat-tailed tails are almost the same length as the body. Boat tailed Grackles
are 16' and Rusty Blackbirds are 9". This is hard to tell from photos but that
is
Hi Matthew,
I have to admit I'm not an expert an Icterids - I'm mostly a duck kinda guy.
I've been getting differences of opinion between Boat Tailed Grackles and Rusty
Blackbirds. The first day most people were saying Rusty Blackbirds, now most
people are saying Boat Tailed Grackles.
I've
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How could they be Boat-tailed? The tails are way too short.
Matthew Voisine
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How could they be Boat-tailed? The tails are way too short.
Matthew Voisine
Biologist
USACE- NY District
26 Federal Plaza
Room 2151
NY, NY 10278
917.790.8718 voice
702.271.0496 mobile
212.264.0961 fax
matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
They look like Rusty Blackbirds (forgot to say that in earlier post) based on
the tails.
Boat-tailed tails are almost the same length as the body. Boat tailed Grackles
are 16' and Rusty Blackbirds are 9. This is hard to tell from photos but that
is
To further elaborate on Angus' post of yesterday, the warm, brown color of
these birds is a much better fit for female Boat-tails than Rusty
Blackbirds. Winter Rustys tend towards gray, rather than brown and even in
fall birds which have a lot of brown to them, the brown color is on the
feather
Related to the hawk image I posted yesterday from Croton, NY on
Saturday; while most people agreed that it was a juvenile Red-shouldered
Hawk, a couple of people thought it was a juvenile Broad-winged Hawk.
Here is the link to the image again:
http://ardithbondi.com/pictures/slide4533.jpg
We made our first visit of the year to Hempstead Lake State Park this AM, and
were pleased to see a lack of residual snow in many locations (unlike the North
Shore). Highlights were the continuing Bald Eagles on Hempstead Lake, an
immature bird on the ice and an adult in the trees on the west
2014 Great South Channel trip - August 10-12, 2014. Same price as last
year. Reservations are required and can be made as of at
http://www.cresli.org/cresli/reservations/offshore_res.html.
The Coastal Research and Education Society of Long Island is a non-profit
research and education
On Sunday (2/23), Tim Dunn, Pete Morris, and myself (John Gluth) made
the trip up to Orange County to see the birds reported over the past few
weeks throughout the Black Dirt Region (BDR).
Before heading for the BDR, we made two preliminary stops. We began in
River Vale, NJ, hoping to see a
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* Syracuse
* February 24, 2014
* NYSY 02. 24. 14
Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert
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to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com
covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge
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