RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Rick
Quick agreement with Shai -- by "non-migratory" I didn't mean "feral", just populations that in the past may have been migratory but have now become sedentary / local, in some or all seasons. -Original Message- From: bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Rick
Quick agreement with Shai -- by "non-migratory" I didn't mean "feral", just populations that in the past may have been migratory but have now become sedentary / local, in some or all seasons. -Original Message- From: bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Shaibal Mitra
As everyone so far has contributed in good faith, and given that this listserv is devoted to NYS birds of all kinds, not just rare, why not discuss? My perception is that waterfowl are thriving above and beyond all other ecological guilds. The explosion in Canada Goose numbers is not

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Shaibal Mitra
As everyone so far has contributed in good faith, and given that this listserv is devoted to NYS birds of all kinds, not just rare, why not discuss? My perception is that waterfowl are thriving above and beyond all other ecological guilds. The explosion in Canada Goose numbers is not

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Rick
First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable task, not simple. Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less destructive than another (non-migratory “barnyard” Canada Geese) is a sensible question for discussion (maybe or maybe not on a

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Rick
First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable task, not simple. Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less destructive than another (non-migratory “barnyard” Canada Geese) is a sensible question for discussion (maybe or maybe not on a

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Grover, Bob
I’m totally with Tim on this. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Frederick Kedenburg > wrote: I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite conversation of an issue that we all know about. Many of us

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Grover, Bob
I’m totally with Tim on this. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Frederick Kedenburg mailto:kedenb...@optonline.net>> wrote: I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite conversation of an issue that we all know about. Many of us have opinions that will not

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Tim Dunn
I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It’s not an easy issue for birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues. I also have no problem with dealing with the “immigrant” swan population as humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be to

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Tim Dunn
I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It’s not an easy issue for birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues. I also have no problem with dealing with the “immigrant” swan population as humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be to

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Frederick Kedenburg
I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite conversation of an issue that we all know about. Many of us have opinions that will not be changed. That is everyones right. I have simply this one thing to say: I know many out there wish to eliminate the Swans for what they

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Frederick Kedenburg
I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite conversation of an issue that we all know about. Many of us have opinions that will not be changed. That is everyones right. I have simply this one thing to say: I know many out there wish to eliminate the Swans for what they

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Michael Cooper
Well said Tim, but I think I hear the footsteps of Chris T-H on the way, so I’m going to mention a bird in this post and “duck” out of the way of the ban hammer! Mike Cooper Ridge LI NY Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Tim Dunn wrote: > > Fred and any

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Michael Cooper
Well said Tim, but I think I hear the footsteps of Chris T-H on the way, so I’m going to mention a bird in this post and “duck” out of the way of the ban hammer! Mike Cooper Ridge LI NY Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Tim Dunn wrote: > > Fred and any others interested, >

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Tim Dunn
Fred and any others interested, Two mute swans by you is no problem. Up to 65 can be seen on any given day on Argyle Lake in Babylon. It is a pond that is less than 1/4 mile in circumference. All other breeding waterfowl here have been eradicated by these swans. Some migrant waterfowl use

Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Tim Dunn
Fred and any others interested, Two mute swans by you is no problem. Up to 65 can be seen on any given day on Argyle Lake in Babylon. It is a pond that is less than 1/4 mile in circumference. All other breeding waterfowl here have been eradicated by these swans. Some migrant waterfowl use

[nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Frederick Kedenburg
Although yes, I do know this issue was posted locally on the NF, yet it still has many repercussions to birders throughout NYS therefore I am posting. If you wish to eradicate Mute Swan I am sorry. rk North Fork LI NY: I went looking for the reported Snowy at the Mattituck Inlet Breakwater

[nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

2017-12-04 Thread Frederick Kedenburg
Although yes, I do know this issue was posted locally on the NF, yet it still has many repercussions to birders throughout NYS therefore I am posting. If you wish to eradicate Mute Swan I am sorry. rk North Fork LI NY: I went looking for the reported Snowy at the Mattituck Inlet Breakwater

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2017-12-04 Thread Joseph Brin
*  New York*  Syracuse - December 04, 2017 *  NYSY  12.04.17 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):November 27, 2017 - December 04, 2017to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands Complex

[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2017-12-04 Thread Joseph Brin
*  New York*  Syracuse - December 04, 2017 *  NYSY  12.04.17 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):November 27, 2017 - December 04, 2017to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands Complex

[nysbirds-l] American Woodcock, Bryant Park

2017-12-04 Thread joew701
I'm so new to small-park birding in NYC that I don't know what's special, but a quick noontime walk among the Bryant Park hordes revealed an Orange-Crowned Warbler (northeast plantings), Common Yellowthroat, Hermit Thrush, and a tame, feeding Woodcock. First spotted from Sixth Avenue probing

[nysbirds-l] Central Park, NYC - Sun., Dec. 3, 2017 - Boat-tailed Grackle, Nashville & Wilson's Warbs., N. Parula, Hammond's Fl.

2017-12-04 Thread Deborah Allen
Central Park, NYC - Ramble & points south Sunday, December. 3, 2017 OBS: Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, m.ob. Highlights: Boat-tailed Grackle, Nashville Warbler (3), Wilson's Warbler, Northern Parula, & Hammond's Flycatcher. Water is high at the mudflat between the Pond and Wollman Rink, but

[nysbirds-l] Central Park, NYC - Sun., Dec. 3, 2017 - Boat-tailed Grackle, Nashville & Wilson's Warbs., N. Parula, Hammond's Fl.

2017-12-04 Thread Deborah Allen
Central Park, NYC - Ramble & points south Sunday, December. 3, 2017 OBS: Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, m.ob. Highlights: Boat-tailed Grackle, Nashville Warbler (3), Wilson's Warbler, Northern Parula, & Hammond's Flycatcher. Water is high at the mudflat between the Pond and Wollman Rink, but

[nysbirds-l] HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER - YES

2017-12-04 Thread Anders Peltomaa
I just found it. Near Swampy Pin Oak, towards the Oven. Anders Peltomaa Manhattan -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER - YES

2017-12-04 Thread Anders Peltomaa
I just found it. Near Swampy Pin Oak, towards the Oven. Anders Peltomaa Manhattan -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

Re: [nysbirds-l] Neotropical birds in the far north

2017-12-04 Thread Mike
I don’t know if this is part of the crazy outbreak we’re seeing here in the northeast, but yesterday a Hepatic Tanager was photo’d at a feeder in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan! Mike Cooper Ridge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Peltomaa

Re: [nysbirds-l] Neotropical birds in the far north

2017-12-04 Thread Mike
I don’t know if this is part of the crazy outbreak we’re seeing here in the northeast, but yesterday a Hepatic Tanager was photo’d at a feeder in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan! Mike Cooper Ridge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Peltomaa wrote: > >